ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA - Marvel Studios Reportedly Took "Shortcuts" With VFX

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA - Marvel Studios Reportedly Took "Shortcuts" With VFX

Marvel Studios' Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania has come in for a lot of criticism for its VFX, and we're not hearing that "the film’s CGI-quality-control measures were subpar."

By MarkCassidy - Feb 22, 2023 02:02 PM EST

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania wasn't exactly a big hit with critics (it's only the second MCU movie to be deemed "rotten" on Rotten Tomatoes), and a common thread in most of the negative reviews was the movie's shoddy VFX.

This is hardly the first time an MCU project has been criticized for appearing to cut corners on its CGI, but it seemed to stand out more in Quantumania because so much of the movie takes place in the FX-heavy Quantum Realm.

Now, a new report from Vulture indicates that some "shortcuts" were indeed taken.

According to several VFX artists who worked on the film and wish to remain anonymous, CGI-quality-control measures were subpar, partially due to "critical resources being diverted away to Black Panther: Wakanda Forever."

"Wakanda Forever took precedence," says one artist who has worked on several major MCU films. "It felt like the higher-up and supervisor roles were shifted around to put that on their plates and there was a smaller team working on Ant-Man. It was on the back burner — less of a pressing thing.

Maybe the director had an idea of what he wanted, but he wasn’t 100 percent clear. We had a rough environment that we were sticking a few main characters in. At that time, we weren’t told where the characters should be in that environment. We were just going with what felt right."

Marvel Studios has come under fire for allegedly overworking VFX artists and enforcing unrealistic deadlines in the past. The Captain Marvel sequel was recently pushed back by over 4 months to dedicate more time to post-production, so perhaps the powers that be are beginning to pay attention to the backlash?

What did you guys make of Ant-Man 3's VFX? Drop us a comment down below.

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DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 2/22/2023, 2:06 PM
We know.
NegativeNerd
NegativeNerd - 2/22/2023, 6:34 PM
@DudeGuy - this 💯
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/22/2023, 7:10 PM
@DudeGuy - I knew the VFX were going downhill the moment they made every helmet in the MCU appear and disappear like Star Lord's.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/22/2023, 2:09 PM
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/22/2023, 2:10 PM
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/22/2023, 2:10 PM
I dunno, everyone made such a big deal about the VFX of this movie but I didn't think they were all that bad. Yes, MODOK without the mask was absolutely horrendous, and there were some weird scenes like when Ant-Man was huge over a normal sized cassie, that looked a little off, but for the most part the the world itself, which they were in for the entire damn movie, was hardly what I would call attrocious.

Again, because I also thought it was terrible, I need to reiterate that MODOK's face without the helmet was awful.
Benjamitesandwich
Benjamitesandwich - 2/22/2023, 2:17 PM
@SATW42 - It’s so strange that my feelings have shifted 180 from what I originally thought about MODOK: When the promotional material showed a metal face, I was upset and wanted MODOK to have a fleshy face . . . but now that I see what we actually got, I would have much preferred the metal face to be his permanent look.
dragon316
dragon316 - 2/22/2023, 2:54 PM
@SATW42 - modok what do people expect with character with stretched out face on machine body with big head can’t get no better than that of course character with stretched face will look bad it’s character alone did it in stretched face in comics same in movie
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 2/22/2023, 4:16 PM
@SATW42 - Yeah, this wasn't Love and Thunder level. Maybe because I don't know what a Quantum Realm where intelligent creatures roam around in should look like, but I didn't really think any of it looked bad. Maybe a bit uninspired, but it was definitely vibrant.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 2/22/2023, 2:10 PM
Wow, really? They've never done that before.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/22/2023, 2:11 PM
CaptainCheese
CaptainCheese - 2/22/2023, 2:12 PM
Wow! Really?
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/22/2023, 2:14 PM
On another note, VFX took a back seat to Wakanda Forever. You mean the movie that came out 3 months earlier, so if work had to be done it would obviously take precedent and be top priority?

weeeeeeird
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/22/2023, 2:26 PM
@SATW42 - I think what they’re getting at it is what’s been reported before marvel overloaded the schedule and stretched them thin and so atp WF got even more resources devoted to it that could’ve helped sure up ant man even with the 3 months lead up
Origame
Origame - 2/22/2023, 2:44 PM
@SATW42 - I mean, essentially allowing a lesser team work on what's supposed to be a huge movie for both phase 5 and the multiverse saga in general instead of just delaying the film is pretty alarming.
Knightrider
Knightrider - 2/22/2023, 2:14 PM
I feel like Marvel needs to slow down. They want the big bucks, but if they focus on quality over long term rather than large short term gains they will realise they can earn more over a longer time
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/22/2023, 2:31 PM
@Knightrider - they already announced they are slowing down.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 2/22/2023, 2:28 PM
"Wakanda Forever took precedence,"

You can tell, but rightfully so. It’s a better movie in every, conceivable way.
Kadara
Kadara - 2/22/2023, 8:33 PM
@PlusUltra - It helps that WF is actually a movie and not a 90 minute teaser for next projects too.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/22/2023, 2:30 PM
No waaaaaay!😑
grif
grif - 2/22/2023, 2:32 PM
well you can see that from the trailers.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/22/2023, 2:37 PM
“ According to several VFX artists who worked on the film and wish to remain anonymous”
Sounds like a reliable source.
The VFX looked fine. From all the dumb articles nitpicking at this movie it seems like people are trying hard to make others think this isn’t a good movie. My only gripe is the side characters could’ve been better.
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 2/22/2023, 4:33 PM
@slickrickdesigns - it meant they wished to remain anonymous in the publication… im sure their identities and work histories were verified, or else it wouldnt have been worded that way.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/22/2023, 2:41 PM
So Quantumania could've used a delay as well? With The Marvels being postponed for the same reason, it did have a spot free in July
EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/22/2023, 5:15 PM
@bkmeijer1 - OT: but stumbled upon this and thought of you
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/23/2023, 12:35 AM
@EZBeast - almost perfect timing lol. I'll check it out later today
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/23/2023, 11:02 AM
@EZBeast - made me realize there are a ton of Warhammer cinematics. Might check those out too, given that I like to watch picture. Especially moving pictures
EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/23/2023, 11:26 AM
@bkmeijer1 - the best is the fan made astartes videos. It brought in so many new fans and is of the highest quality down to little details such as the space marines bullets being miniature missiles which is what they actually are


Unfortunately gw did something really shitty and put a stop to a lot of fan made stuff for a while and either bought them up or forced an immediate stop due to wanting to share their ip.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/23/2023, 11:27 AM
@bkmeijer1 - *not wanting to share their ip
EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/23/2023, 11:29 AM
@bkmeijer1 - this is probably my second fav as this is lore accurate to the Horus heresy

A lot of the other videos were for trailers for video games like dawn of war or inquisitor
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/23/2023, 11:42 AM
@EZBeast - that first one's pretty impressive. But ofcourse fan productions aren't appreciated by developers. Reminds me D&D and Star Wars
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 2/22/2023, 2:43 PM
Marvel doesn't need to slow down, they need to cancel movies and shows about c-list characters like The Marvels.
Captain Marvel (Danvers) was always a c-list character in the comics.
Captain Marvel (Rambeau) was a great Avenger in the 80s, but she was always a c-list character.
Ms. Marvel had what, a twelve issue comic series?

There are teams like the F4, Alpha Flight, the Defenders, Midnight Sons, Annihilators, X-Force and lots of others who havn't gotten a mcu movie.

Make interesting Marvel Team-up movies with two or three characters.

We never had a Iron Man/Doctor Doom adventure!

I really don't care about three female c-list heroines or a Shang-Chi movie were the Mandarin is killed off needlessly.
CaptainMexico
CaptainMexico - 2/22/2023, 5:51 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - “marvel needs to slow down” and “I don’t care about these c-list FEMALE characters.” You’re really that insecure that you’re threatened by the new Marvels movie? You sound like you need to be in that incel club from the She Hulk series. Shang chi was awesome too.
cadunovaes01
cadunovaes01 - 2/22/2023, 6:40 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - I love that graphic novel, Doctor Strange & Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment. My dream to see adapted in a movie.
Kadara
Kadara - 2/22/2023, 8:37 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - I really wanted to agree with you until I got to your last paragraph.
whatevtrev
whatevtrev - 2/22/2023, 2:50 PM
MODOK aside, which was actually just kinda funny, not once did I think “oof, these visuals are really something”. I really don’t get what everyone is crying about.
whatevtrev
whatevtrev - 2/22/2023, 2:52 PM
Especially when everyone seems to give Black Panther a pass, those FX were noticeably bad.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 2/22/2023, 3:44 PM
@whatevtrev -

Especially IronHeart in the final scene 😖
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 2/22/2023, 3:13 PM
Marvel right now reminds me of DC in the late mid 90s, they need to hit the breaks before is too late.
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