ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Spoilers: 6 Ways It Sets Up The MCU And Multiverse Saga's Future

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Spoilers: 6 Ways It Sets Up The MCU And Multiverse Saga's Future

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is now playing in theaters, and we're taking a closer look at the ways Marvel Studios' latest blockbuster sets the stage for the MCU's future and the next Avengers movies.

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By JoshWilding - Feb 23, 2023 12:02 PM EST

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania hasn't received the warmest of responses from critics, but that takes nothing away from the movie's importance to the wider Multiverse Saga. 

After introducing Kang the Conqueror, Marvel Studios has laid the groundwork for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars, but not necessarily in the way we expected. It looks like they're going to subvert expectations in a big way across this latest Saga, leaving us with many unanswered questions as we continue to watch this story unfold.

Despite that, the Ant-Man threequel still does a lot to tee up the MCU's future and that's what we're taking a closer look at today. From minor plot developments which could have major ramifications to plans for some fan-favourite heroes and villains, this breakdown takes a deep dive into where we go from here.

You can take a look through this feature by clicking on the "Next" button below!
 

6. Scott Lang's Big Mistake

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When a rat inadvertently helped bring Scott Lang back from the Quantum Realm, he was able to help his fellow Avengers tap into that and travel back in time. 

That ultimately led to the half of humanity Thanos wiped out being restored, making Ant-Man one of the world's greatest heroes in the process. He's riding high on that at the beginning of Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, but the man who saved the world may have just doomed the entire Multiverse. 

By ignoring Kang's pleas, Scott has inadvertently unleashed the might of the Council of Kangs, while pushing the Conqueror into the Multiverse Engine may have created something much worse. Something beyond Kang. We can't help but think Ant-Man will pay for that...
 

5. Cassie Lang, Young Avenger

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Supernatural and Detective Pikachu star Kathryn Newton has drawn mixed reviews for her performance as Cassie Lang, though we can't help but feel that's a little unfair given the lack of strong material she was expected to work with. 

Regardless, the threequel goes a long way in establishing young Cassie as a hero in her own right. It's a little convenient that she already has a suit and mostly mastered the ability to change size, but Marvel Studios clearly views Ant-Man's daughter as part of the next generation of heroes that includes the likes of Kate Bishop and Yelena Belova.

Cassie doesn't get her own superhero moniker in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, but we're guessing the teenager will have become Stinger by the next time we see her. 
 

4. The Conqueror's Return

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Marvel Studios just killed Kang the Conqueror during his first appearance in an Ant-Man movie. What the actual f***? It makes zero sense and seems like a waste of a character who we all thought would be the MCU's new big bad. 

After all, while the likes of Immortus and Rama-Tut are great villains in their own right, Kang the Conqueror is the baddie who has pushed Earth's Mightiest Heroes to their limits for decades now. Something tells us this isn't the last we've seen of this Variant and that he is, in fact, going to become The Beyonder. 

Rumour has it that the reality-altering villain is going to be a Kang Variant and, after being sucked into the Multiverse Engine, the Conqueror may have received quite the upgrade. Combined with the power of the Multiverse, Kang is likely unstoppable and keen to create his own reality...and destroy the Ant-Man Family.
 

3. The Council Of Kangs

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The Council of Kangs was formed to ensure the Prime Kang would eventually fulfil his destiny and become the all-powerful Immortus. We're guessing the death of the Conqueror and the fact heroes and starting to interfere with the Multiverse jeopardises that, hence why he, along with Rama-Tut and Scarlet Centurion, have called "all of us" together. 

Interestingly, the comic book version of the Council often dealt with Kang Variants they deemed lesser than them, so we're definitely surprised Immortus appears to be seeking their help.

He likely has his own nefarious plan in mind, though, and it surely won't be long before these Kangs embark on a war that puts the entire Multiverse at risk. While we remain convinced that the Conqueror will return, all signs currently point to this trio being the main villains in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty.
 

2. Kang's Rings

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Possibly the most important moment in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania that likely passed most of you by is when Kang talks about the "rings" surrounding his base of operations in the Quantum Realm. 

We've noticed the similarity between those, Shang-Chi's Ten Rings, Ms. Marvel's bangles, and the writings in the Darkhold, and it looks likely that Kang has scattered these objects throughout time in order to manipulate history. The Ten Rings allowed Wenwu to gain power, and it was that group which inadvertently created Iron Man...who ushered in the age of heroes.

If Kang's existence is tied to the Fantastic Four and The Avengers' "discovery" of time travel, then he needed certain events to happen. The Darkhold has taken one of the greatest threats to his dynasty, the Scarlet Witch, off the table and we expect to learn more about Kamala Khan's bangle in The Marvels. It's hard to say how, but things are starting to come together.
 

1. Victor Timely

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We've talked a lot about that first post-credits scene, but the second is every bit as important. Clearly a scene from Loki's upcoming second season, it shows Victor Timely making a presentation about time to an audience in the early 1900s. 

The comic book version of this Kang fled to that time to escape The Avengers and used his knowledge of the future to create technology that, unknown to him, would lead to the creation of the advanced Marvel Universe we know as Earth-616. Victor is clearly very important to the MCU, but how he ties into the larger story being told is impossible to say. 

Loki certainly seems afraid of him, and we're guessing the plan is to show how the 31st Century villain has used time to create new realities he can rule over. The alternative is they're all just Variants and time-travel is unimportant, something that will be a major departure from the comics and a disappointing approach to Kang on screen.
 

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EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/23/2023, 12:16 PM
OT: where are the cocaine bear reviews?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/23/2023, 12:19 PM
@EZBeast - I hear it isn't great
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 12:25 PM
@EZBeast @McMurdo - Oh, I'll have to STRONGLY disagree with that - cocaine IS a helluva drug for sure. Wait - (rereads original post) - *ahem*, never mind.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 2/23/2023, 12:26 PM
@McMurdo - I mean I get that but I’m not seeing reviews anywhere. IGN has surprised me the most without a review
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/23/2023, 12:37 PM
@StSteven - there's a couple monkeys who agree with you.
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 12:51 PM
@GreedoSarducci - Yeah, well, those frickin' monkey ALWAYS agree with whoever is holding. Damn freeloaders.
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/23/2023, 1:08 PM
@StSteven - gotta roll with the monkeys. Always.
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 2:41 PM
@GreedoSarducci - Well, I'll say this for them: freeloaders or not, whenever I roll up in front of the Club in my stretch and my entourage of monkeys geeked out of their minds busts out swinging their rubber chickens around snarling at anyone who even steps up to me, everyone there knows that I ain't playin'. No joke, the moneys know what time it is. Always.
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/23/2023, 2:44 PM
@StSteven - I've seen a monkey with a rubber chicken. Not to be [frick]ed with.
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 3:05 PM
@GreedoSarducci - No joke. Especially if they're "making the sexy time" with that chicken. They'll chew you f**king arm off if you get anywhere close. Throw in an 8-ball and they'll go straight up "Dawn of the Rise of the Day of the Week of the Month of the Year of the Planet of the Apes" on your ass (that wasn't snow that they were surrounded by in those movies).

Or, they could just wash your cat for 3 hours. You never know with monkeys, which is what REALLY makes them dangerous.
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/23/2023, 3:06 PM
@StSteven - I'll take the cat wash. Thanks!
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 3:23 PM
@GreedoSarducci - Are you sure about that? I didn't specify what I meant by "wash your cat for 3 hours"...
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/23/2023, 4:57 PM
@StSteven - what could possibly go wrong with washing a cat for three hours?
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 5:27 PM
@GreedoSarducci - Well, let's just say that the last time I had a monkey "wash my cat" I couldn't walk for 2 days. Jus' sayin'...
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/23/2023, 5:29 PM
@StSteven - oh... you mean wash my CAT. Now I see. That could be problematic.
StSteven
StSteven - 2/23/2023, 5:35 PM
@GreedoSarducci - Oh yeah. Especially if you don't use lube (trust me)...
AvalonX
AvalonX - 2/23/2023, 12:28 PM
Must be nice to take every fan theory and turn it into a post...

The council of Kangs are different in the MCU. There is no Prime Kang like the comics, they are all variants. In the MCU, the variants are from different universes following the time travel rules established in Endgame. They combined this with elements of the everything dies storyline. That makes them mostly mustach twirling villains. Their goal is clear, they are going to try and wipe out the Avengers because now that they are messying with the multiverse, it makes them a threat.

The Conquerer doesn't care about the Avengers. He wants to kill the other Kangs. He could be the Beyonder, HWR, and/or Victor Timely or all three.

The sacred timeline probably gets created out of Secret Wars. Maybe the conquerer helps the Avengers in Kang Dynasty only to betray them.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/23/2023, 1:19 PM
@AvalonX - the Conqueror succeeding on defeating the council by "burning them out of time", and then the end is the avengers vs a much more powerful Kang the Conqueror, is the movie I want to see. And I want it all to occur in Kang Dynasty.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/23/2023, 12:35 PM
Really wished they made Kang unstoppable in this and gave it a cliffhanger ending. Ending felt exactly the same as Thor 4 and Dr Strange 2
Taonrey
Taonrey - 2/23/2023, 1:19 PM
@Matchesz - him losing to the Antman family is ridiculous, definitely before kang dynasty
CaptainDC
CaptainDC - 2/23/2023, 12:42 PM
Here's 6 ways this movie sucks:

1) Ant-Man and The Wasp share -7 minutes together on-screen
2) Cassie is insufferably annoying and her status as a hero doesn't feel earned
3) Modok is an absolute joke
4) Ant's take out Kang The Conquerer - who is completely wasted in this movie
5) Every side character does nothing for the movie and is extremely forgettable
6) The movie isn't funny yet thinks it's a comedy and removed all the characters from Ant-Man 1 & 2 that were actually somewhat funny
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 2/23/2023, 12:55 PM
@CaptainDC - that warriors lady helped Cassie get the message out. That was something, right? Cassie was not doing that on her own
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/23/2023, 12:44 PM
I know others didn't like this movie as much as me but really, i'm very interested to see how this story integrates with Phase5; esp ShangChi, the marvels and Loki S2. I want to see what happens to the conqueror, why Loki is afraid and what happens in the Avengers movies... along with... how it's tied into F4
LukeCage2155
LukeCage2155 - 2/23/2023, 2:20 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Me too.
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 2/23/2023, 1:01 PM
I don’t mean to sound racist but you know I’m right: the council of kangs were yelling like monkeys. That’s solely on the director of that scene cause it was terrible. They should’ve been yelling at least saying something instead of just yelling out loud for no reason. Smh
Vigor
Vigor - 2/23/2023, 1:35 PM
@Mrtoke - lol you made it racist by saying you don't mean to make it racist 😆
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 2/23/2023, 1:40 PM
@Vigor - idc you know I’m right
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/23/2023, 5:00 PM
@Mrtoke -

It isn't racist, & you are the only one to bring that up. Looking for racism under every rock is just ridiculous.

Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 2/23/2023, 6:15 PM
@DocSpock - just rewatched it. They literally made monkey sounds going oo oo ah
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/23/2023, 6:26 PM
@Mrtoke -


ZZZZzzzz....

IMCOOLURNOT
IMCOOLURNOT - 2/23/2023, 1:34 PM
Scott was in the Quantum Realm for 5 years. Wouldn't he have encountered any signs of life or "people" or Kang?
Vigor
Vigor - 2/23/2023, 1:35 PM
@IMCOOLURNOT - time dilation. To him he was in there for like 5 minutes
IMCOOLURNOT
IMCOOLURNOT - 2/23/2023, 1:46 PM
@Vigor - Then why did Michelle Pfeiffer's character age. She should have been in her late 20's of early 30's when she finally came out. Lazy writing.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/23/2023, 3:09 PM
@IMCOOLURNOT - you need to go rewatch the movies buddy. Scott went down there and hit a time vortex, which Janet warned him about. Apparently Janet (and Hank) arrived at a place deep enough in the quantum realm, where time flowed the same speed as our world.

All these things were mentioned in antman 2, endgame, and antman3.
Not lazy writing. You missed a line or two
IMCOOLURNOT
IMCOOLURNOT - 2/23/2023, 3:12 PM
@Vigor - There's an Antman 2?

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