ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Writer Talks Kang/Janet Van Dyne Romance Theories: "Maybe They Had Sex..."

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Writer Talks Kang/Janet Van Dyne Romance Theories: "Maybe They Had Sex..."

After watching Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, many fans are convinced that things got hot and heavy between Kang and Janet Van Dyne in the Quantum Realm, and the movie's writer all but confirms that...

By JoshWilding - Feb 27, 2023 04:02 AM EST
Source: IGN

In Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, we learned that Janet Van Dyne spent quite a bit of time in the Quantum Realm attempting to help Kang the Conqueror repair his Time Chair. 

Unaware of his true nature, the original Wasp clearly bonded with her newfound ally and that's led to speculation that they may have grown...close. Yes, many fans are already shipping Kang and Janet (Kanet? Jang?), and the threequel's writer Jeff Loveness has gone some way in confirming those theories during a conversation with IGN

"I mean, yeah you got Mr. Hunk over there all day, so mysterious. He's got his little orb. I mean, I don't know what's in that orb," the scribe joked. "I intentionally left it a little vague, but clearly – let's say they're very good friends [laughs]."

"And I think sometimes we're in kind of this YouTube reaction video world where everyone wants every little detail explained. And I don't think I ascribe to that. I think there's a magic in what is unsaid and what is not explicitly said."

"I love Jane Austen novels or English novels [that] are very sexually repressed. I'm sexually repressed. But I think there's a lot of strength in those types of relationships that could go either way. And maybe it did, maybe it didn't," Loveness continued. "Maybe that's a reason she didn't want to tell her family about it. That's part of it."

That last point is something that's been debated since Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania was released, with many arguing that it made no sense for Janet to not tell her family about Kang's existence. After all, she sent Scott back into the Quantum Realm at the end of Ant-Man and The Wasp

Loveness would elaborate on that point, explaining: "Maybe she didn't want to tell the family or the Avengers about it, because if they went down there, he would f***in' kill them. Or he would get their Pym Particles and get out. It's something that, it's like your grandpa talking about what happened to him in the Pacific Theater in 1944. Best not to bring it up."

"But yeah, maybe they had sex," he concluded. "Who knows?"

We're going to go ahead and guess that they did, especially as Kang seems to take Janet's portrayal so personally. Rumour has it she'll be key to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, and with Loveness also writing that movie, answers could be on the horizon.

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is currently playing in theaters. 

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 2/27/2023, 4:29 AM
He deffo smashed. She was dickmitized until she touched that chair.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/27/2023, 4:32 AM
Kang was conquering those cheeks
Origame
Origame - 2/27/2023, 4:39 AM
Yes, it's best not to bring up the super powered destroyer trapped in the place your husband is constantly trying to explore and study 🙄.

Also, between this and Steve in she hulk, these writers are obsessed with superheroes having sex.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/27/2023, 7:15 AM
@Origame - two mentions of sex and they're already obsessed? Damn
Origame
Origame - 2/27/2023, 7:36 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I mean, they devoted like half that episode to the Steve had sex joke. Not only that but there's also much of she hulk devoted to her pursuit of casual sex and the hulk can't get it up scene in incredible hulk. And that's just off the top of my head, not even counting the awkward sex scene in eternals.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/27/2023, 7:43 AM
@Origame - isn't that like She-Hulk's whole thing in the comcis too though?

And think the difference between Hulk and She-Hulk is that Jen is still in control in hulkform. That's why Banner was afraid, because he wasn't in control.
Origame
Origame - 2/27/2023, 7:52 AM
@bkmeijer1 - ...no. she's basically a daredevil like character, just with super strength and more comedy thrown in.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/27/2023, 8:08 AM
@Origame - I don't know, I also remember dating life being part of her comics as well. More than that of other characters
DCfan84
DCfan84 - 2/27/2023, 8:11 AM
@Origame - This Too!

99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 2/27/2023, 8:25 AM
@Origame - The MCU was getting criticized for being sexless for a long time, so they've been trying to switch it up. I think because of the age difference between Michelle Pfeiffer and Jonathan Majors, they didn't wanna emphasize their past romance as much. I think the actors could've sold it, but cleary there was hesitation from the creative side.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 2/27/2023, 9:03 AM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME - It’s only an age difference that matters to the audience. To the characters he’s older than she is by a long shot.
solskulldeath
solskulldeath - 2/27/2023, 9:04 AM
@Origame - remember,his name is loveness.
Origame
Origame - 2/27/2023, 9:04 AM
@DCfan84 - oh bohner. Always penetrating productions without permission (or consent if you will).

Ok, I've got to admit that joke went a little too far.
Origame
Origame - 2/27/2023, 9:05 AM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME - it's a pretty weird criticism considering it's a Disney franchise made for kids.
DCfan84
DCfan84 - 2/27/2023, 9:58 AM
@Origame - "Too Far" is why I have a Rap Sheet and HR hates me at my job. So to you...why not just keep going? Right?.....Right?
TheOtherOn
TheOtherOn - 2/27/2023, 4:57 AM
All the horny MCU fans!



Meanwhile their parents....

bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/27/2023, 5:40 AM

LeonNova
LeonNova - 2/27/2023, 5:41 AM
Marvel and Brazzers presents: Kangbanged
DCfan84
DCfan84 - 2/27/2023, 6:38 AM
@LeonNova -
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 2/27/2023, 8:01 AM
@LeonNova - or "Bang The Conqueror"
DCfan84
DCfan84 - 2/27/2023, 5:49 AM
MODOK wanted to get in on that too, I bet. He just couldn't find the small "thing" to help him achieve the other "thing"!

Radders
Radders - 2/27/2023, 6:18 AM
Pretty clear Janet was shagging her way around the Quantum Realm lol
Bazenga
Bazenga - 2/27/2023, 6:24 AM
Pym got cucked.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 2/27/2023, 10:16 AM
@Bazenga - Twice. At the same damn time.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 2/27/2023, 7:00 AM
This writer is a bona fide moron.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/27/2023, 7:01 AM
When the writer of the movie asks "Who knows?"

Yeah, nuff said...
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/27/2023, 7:16 AM
@Doomsday8888 - I think he's right though. Not everything needs to be answered. Especially things like who clapped who's cheeks
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/27/2023, 7:27 AM
@bkmeijer1
Not the audience but the writer should know.
A storyteller shouldn't show his hand but he gots to be aware the cards his holding but i get it...with Marvel or DC you aren't playing solo, so...
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/27/2023, 7:29 AM
Besides, i was actually one the few (if not the only one) who was rooting for Loveness.

I dunno wtf happened with this movie, either he betrayed me or the director failed him by executing his script in a shitty as way, idk...
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/27/2023, 7:42 AM
@Doomsday8888 - honestly, even then I think he doesn't need to.

If I were a writer, I would intentionally let small things be open-ended so that other writers could fill in those gaps.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/27/2023, 7:46 AM
@bkmeijer1
That's how you end up with the Star Wars sequel trilogy, lel.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/27/2023, 8:04 AM
@Doomsday8888 - true. That took it too the extreme.

Think that's also because of time constraints and certain expectations they rushed a story out and just came up with story beats to propel the story.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/27/2023, 7:17 AM
This guy is really the best they can do? After al the money we throw at them, they chose him over everyone else? We all have to be subjected to this one single idiots imagination?
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 2/27/2023, 7:17 AM
"Who knows." ... but you do, you're the writer.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 2/27/2023, 7:29 AM
@EgoEgor -

That's not always how writing works though.

Many famous writers have no idea how a lot of the open-ended situation in their books are resolved and would rather leave that open to interpretation of the reader.

He just doesn't know because he didn't write it to be known.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 2/27/2023, 7:46 AM
@Humperdink - I know. I just think it's funny that writers say that to their audiences.

Ambiguous ending is different from this because that's up to the readers interpretation or participation. This is just some useless "who knows"(with a shrug and a wink) that served no purpose. They could've finger painted or played quantum mini-golf. At the end, if it ain't mentioned then it serves no purpose to the story whatsoever. Maybe I'm just more annoyed that this was an actual article.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 2/27/2023, 7:25 AM
Axek Braun is directing Ant-Man 4, isnt he?
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