DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS Writer Defends Scarlet Witch's Story Arc And Addresses Ending

DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS Writer Defends Scarlet Witch's Story Arc And Addresses Ending

Much has been said about how the Scarlet Witch's story plays out in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but writer Michael Waldron has now defended that while addressing Wanda's final fate...

By JoshWilding - May 11, 2022 05:05 AM EST
Source: Variety

WandaVision ended with the Scarlet Witch lowering the Hex around Westview and freeing its terrified residents, but a post-credits scene made it clear that the Darkhold had started corrupting her. Wanda Maximoff's descent into villainy made sense in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but there are many fans out there who are unhappy with how her story played out.

Talking to Variety, writer Michael Waldron confirmed that there was an earlier version of the sequel with Wanda as part of the ensemble before turning bad nearer the end of the movie.

"There was never a way to service her fall from grace properly as a supporting character in the movie because there had to be a separate antagonist," he explained. "And it also felt like we were leaving the biggest bit of fun on the table for somebody else. And, truth be told, having watched and experienced and studied 'WandaVision,' I felt like she was at the point, in possession of the Darkhold, where she was ready to break bad."

"My interpretation of 'WandaVision' is that she confronts her grief and she lets go of the people she has under her control, but I don’t think she necessarily resolves her grief in that show, and I don’t think she resolves her anger. Maybe she’s able to say goodbye to Vision, but I think she’s really just fallen in love with those kids. I think that all of those hanging threads are the things that the Darkhold preys on when she gets the Darkhold from Agatha."

In the same interview, Waldron was asked about the Scarlet Witch burying herself beneath that rubble on Mount Wundagore and the flash of red light we see before she destroys every copy of the Darkhold across the Multiverse. To pull that off, Wanda must have become more powerful than ever, but did she survive?

"I think that’s up for interpretation. She made some kind of sacrificial act that destroyed the Darkhold in every universe, which is protecting Wanda in every universe from being seduced by the Darkhold. Whether she’s dead or not remains to be seen," the writer ponders. "I know what it’s like to love characters and to not want them to be gone and to hate when they do bad things. But that’s that’s part of the fun of watching stuff and getting swept up in it."

Oh, and in case you're wondering if Marvel Studios ever considered including Mephisto in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Waldron was quick to point out that the character "was never in play for us." Whether we'll ever see that villain in the MCU is up for debate, but with Marvel Studios now embracing its supernatural side, there's every chance he'll make his presence felt down the line.

Were you happy with how the Scarlet Witch's story played out in the Doctor Strange sequel?

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/11/2022, 6:03 AM
I like how we went from Wanda being responsible for her actions in WandaVision to Wanda being manipulated in Multiverse of Madness, while we said it was the other way around.

Either way, I think Waldron has a point in that we don't like seeing characters we like do things we don't like.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/11/2022, 10:32 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I didn't like the character after WandaVision and I wasn't into what they did here.
generictheeric
generictheeric - 5/11/2022, 4:09 PM
@bkmeijer1 - When Wanda unlocked her full Scarlet Witch powers in WandaVision, Agatha Harkness issued the warning "you don't know what you've done." This suggests she knew Wanda would be overwhelmed by her abilities ahead of time, well before Multiverse of Madness took place.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 5/11/2022, 6:04 AM
My personal issue with the character's arc is that she has become a rampaging, merciless killing-machine that would meet the approval of Thanos and yet, even buried in rubble at the very end, the general talk is that she STILL has a future in the MCU and we get to see more more of her character.... Will she EVER pay a full and legitimate price for all the death, torture and destruction of her character's actions???? 🤨
TheRealMandarin
TheRealMandarin - 5/11/2022, 11:23 AM
@SuperiorHeckler - I'm sure Franklin & Sue of Earth 838 would like to have a word with Wanda.
Mugens
Mugens - 5/11/2022, 6:07 AM
Personally I think the question of whether or not Wanda is dead after the events of the latest Dr. Strange is ludicrous. Watching the movie this past weekend I never once thought that the ending we saw would be the end of the character, and I never have considered her possible variants. Not once. Of course could be wrong but I just don't see it at this point in time.
rychlec
rychlec - 5/11/2022, 6:14 AM
Seeing Wanda go full savage villain was just awesome. Omega-level characters often vacillate between good and evil because they can barely tell the difference anymore. Doctor Manhattan did the same. But Wanda was able to recapture her humanity in the end so in our fun, fictitious world here, she is capable of full redemption.
Typhoon20
Typhoon20 - 5/11/2022, 7:05 AM
Get rid of this writer, ugh.

He wrote Loki and DS2 and both weakness' was the writing, him.

Marvel needs to stay away from the Rick Morty writers. Harmon did the jokes on DS1 and that was the worst part and Waldrons writing was the worst part here. Keep these people away from the next DS2. They're tv writers at best.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/11/2022, 5:21 PM
@Typhoon20 - I mostly don't like Waldron's writing because he's involved in writing the movies from which I don't like the newly established multiverse rules.

Is he to blame for that? I don't know. But atleast Endgame had actual physicists on board to actually have it make sense.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 5/11/2022, 7:48 AM
I personally have love Wanda's arc since her intro in AoU. I don't get why people are complaining about her arc in this movie. It's very clear the Darkhold corrupted her and promised her happiness by killing others to get what she wants. Once she realizes what she has done and comes back to "humanity" she "sacrifices" herself. I loved it. SW is top 3 best MCU villain's Imo, and i can't wait to see where Wanda goes from here.

dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/11/2022, 10:29 AM
@MotherGooseUPus - I think that's a cheap out for the villain angle here.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 5/11/2022, 12:33 PM
@dagenspear - but why?
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/16/2022, 10:53 PM
@dagenspear - Not at all. Her story arc makes perfect sense. And the end credit scene of WandaVision leads us directly into her breaking bad.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2022, 1:11 AM
@Tonic24k - I think nothing in WandaVision, character wise, sets up her rapid shift into villainy in MoM. I think an evil book making her bad is more a plot device, not a natural continuation of her character, which I think doesn't have much value, character wise.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/17/2022, 6:46 PM
@dagenspear - Seems you need to go rewatch WV then. There's plenty of story that captures her trail into villainy.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2022, 7:35 PM
@Tonic24k - What does?
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/17/2022, 8:25 PM
@dagenspear - Like I said, go rewatch the show. If you really have to ask that question you missed the plot of it completely.

Her grief incited her nefarious actions. And although she abandoned the hex she created, she merely pivoted her villainy to something else. Ergo, the end credit scene and then her antagonism in DS2.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2022, 9:34 PM
@Tonic24k - If it's something that can be explained, I think you can tell me. I think it's not my job to make your point for you or my job watch a show that I didn't like the conclusion to, that I ended up disliking characters I'd once liked as a result of watching it the first time.

Her grief doing it wasn't developed to be on purpose. And the show doesn't approach this as villainy, for the character there.

I think it's not developed in either the show or the movie, that she pivoted her villainy to something else, as an explanation. I think it moreso just happens, off screen.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/18/2022, 9:44 AM
@dagenspear - Um...I did explain it to you hence the second paragraph. But I'm also not doing your homework for you. I made a summary; not gonna rewrite the entire story for you. Which is why you need to rewatch the show if you really don't get it.

"Her grief doing it wasn't developed to be on purpose. And the show doesn't approach this as villainy, for the character there."

It absolutely does. That's the entire point of us eventually seeing this from SWORD's perspective. And as the story unravels we begin to see this fantasy is just Wanda being a villain and taking an entire town hostage for her coping mechanisms.

As for her motive taking place off-screen, the end credit scene teases her new motive. That's exactly its intention. Just when you think her dilemma was resolved, she really just pivots to another.

You seem to be missing all of this.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/18/2022, 12:16 PM
@Tonic24k - I didn't take it as a strong explanation.

I disagree. And if it does approach it as villainy, I think it doesn't do it in a well written way and moreso comes off as letting Wanda off the hook for her actions, in that the show approaches active defenses for Wanda and her emotions at many opportunities.

It teasing something doesn't change that this process happened off screen and happened because she was made bad by an evil book.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/19/2022, 9:43 AM
@dagenspear - LOL! Dawg, I'm not here to hold your hand. It's not my responsibility to make sure you understand all this. Hence why you need to rewatch the series and why I gave you a BRIEF summary of what you're not understanding.

And just like the other post, you seem to think these stories need to cater to you. It's your responsibility as an audience member to make sense of it. Rule 1 of writing a good story is to not insult the intelligence of your audience. You seem to want everything over-explained to you because you're incapable of filling in the gaps yourself. So your idea of good writing is actually amateur writing.
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 5/11/2022, 8:50 AM
I never cared for Wanda Olsen.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 5/11/2022, 9:00 AM
I would have liked a more gradual Fall myself, or more direct signs of corruption from the Darkhold (Stephen uses it once and gets a malevolent third eye, but Wanda barely gets black fingertips?)

In any event, Mephisto had no place here. I was quite happy with the inclusion of Mount Wundagore and mention of Chthon, who is hopefully not done with the destruction of the temple.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/11/2022, 10:31 AM
I think the writer's making an excusing for the, to me, weak and messy character writing within the movie, and justifying it with his claims.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 5/12/2022, 11:49 AM
When Wandavision ended I thought: "Why doesn't she just bring the fake Vision and the kids back in the cabin and live there happily ever fater? She created them with her powers in Westview, so she could just do the same again in the cabin without harming anyone else".

And then I watched this movie where instead of doing that, she just decides to become a murderous b*tch for no reason... 🙄
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/16/2022, 11:03 PM
@SethBullock - For no reason? Um...her motive was clear as day. Wanted to get her kids back, corrupted by the Darkhold, murders everyone in her path to get what she wants.

And yeah sure, she "created" her kids in the show. But it's not just as simple as twitching her nose and then there they were. There's certainly something else that allowed their manifestation.

The comics give us some precedence for that. But how they may adapt that is yet to be seen.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2022, 1:17 AM
@Tonic24k - Getting her kids back isn't a real motive for murder, particularly considering she's not getting her kids back, they aren't real, she's trying to kidnap someone elses kids, for herself.

I think there being something else wasn't developed in WandaVision, or MoM, on screen.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/17/2022, 6:52 PM
@dagenspear - This is all a very one-dimensional take. You're oversimplifying it. Getting her kids back is her objective--completely setup by WandaVision. Then people getting in the way of her plan is why she begins fighting. And because the Darkhold has corrupted her, she is driven to the extremes of killing.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2022, 7:36 PM
@Tonic24k - She's not getting her kids back. It may be seen as simplistic, but it doesn't mean that that's not what's happening in the movie.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/17/2022, 8:17 PM
@dagenspear - Well duh. She failed to accomplish what she set out to do. Nothing else you're saying makes any sense.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2022, 9:28 PM
@Tonic24k - It's not getting her kids back, because they're not her kids that she's trying to get. She's trying to kidnap someone elses kids.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/18/2022, 9:36 AM
@dagenspear - Sure. You could certainly spin it like that. In fact, that lends to the moral dilemma a villain like her faces in such a profound circumstance.

From her corrupted perspective, they're HER kids. She's making a selfish choice and not considering her multiversal counterparts' perspectives.

It all flows really well and makes sense to the story.

And really...this gives us more to speculate on. Maybe her kids in WV weren't just fabricated from thin air. Maybe the witchcraft behind it was pulling them in from another universe in the first place. But at the time, the sacred timeline was being preserved...so then how? The comics give us some precedence for this so maybe that plays a part down the road.

See? This is all much more enjoyable when the lore can be explored instead of dismissed as nonsense. The writing has deep layers to it.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/18/2022, 12:11 PM
@Tonic24k - That doesn't emotionally connect with me. I see an insane person trying to steal another woman's kids. Seemingly because an evil book made her bad.

I think you're adding those questions on. I don't think the movie cares to really ask them or set them up.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/19/2022, 9:38 AM
@dagenspear - Lol...okay. Because you don't emotionally connect with it doesn't mean it's not still a motive you tried to say didn't exist.

As for adding stuff on. Dude, the MCU has always had deep layers for fans to discover and speculate on. You can't just ignore that to try and hold on to your point.

And at the end of the day, I've thoroughly explained how all of this is much more than the oversimplification you tried saying it was. Your argument continually back pedals instead of adding any merit to it.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 6/2/2022, 5:42 AM
@Tonic24k - Just saw your reply.

Yes, for no reason because those kids were just her creations and she could have just brought them (and fake Vision) back in the cabin, there is nothing in Wandavision or in MoM that suggested that she couldn't use her powers to bring them back instead of having to steal them from another universe, if there was anything that explained why she couldn't do just that, I can't remember it, and I don't care about the comics, this should have been shown in the tv show or in the movie.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 6/2/2022, 10:02 AM
@SethBullock - Are you forgetting the main ingredient here? She was only able to recreate them within the Hex. After she dispelled the Hex and essentially conceded that it was hurting other people she moved on. But with her newfound understanding of chaos magic she scoured the Darkhold for answers and discovered the spell of dream walking. And as the Darkhold corruupted her--because that's what it does--she resorted to evil methods.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 6/3/2022, 11:54 AM
@Tonic24k - But who created the hex? Why couldn't she just create a new hex in the cabin where nobody else would be harmed?

That was never explained in the show or in the movie, or I just don't remember it being explained.

It makes zero sense that she bothers to do all the evil stuff we see her doing in MoM when there is the possibility of just creating another hex to bring back fake Vision and the kids.

You just use one single minute in Wandavision or in MoM to explain why she can't just do that, and then you have a free way to turn her bad being corrupted by the Darkhold, but the writers never bother to explain why she can't just create another hex somewhere else to bring back the kids.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 6/3/2022, 1:44 PM
@SethBullock - Not everything has to be explained. Good writing assumes their audience's intelligence and ability to surmise certain things like this.

The original Hex was a result of her mental breakdown. It wasn't just a spell casting of pure will. And the story represented the different stages of grief. Part of that being she was just essentially lying to herself in order to maintain a false reality. This is the dilemma she is presented with throughout the show. We see her transition from denial to acceptance.

So there you have it. She didn't create another hex because she came to the realization that creating a false reality isn't the answer to trauma. From there, you can plug in all the other pieces and see how her story arc all makes sense.
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