SPOILERS: SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING Writers Address The Reboot's Big Twist, Shocking Final Scene And More

SPOILERS: SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING Writers Address The Reboot's Big Twist, Shocking Final Scene And More

Spider-Man: Homecoming writers Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley talks here about the big Vulture twist, that shocking final scene, and the recreation of iconic comic book moment featuring Spidey.

By JoshWilding - Jul 12, 2017 12:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Homecoming
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Spider-Man: Homecoming is now in theaters and The Hollywood Reporter has an extensive interview with writers Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley about all the major plot points in the reboot. Among the topics covered here are the superb sequence which sees Adrian Toomes figure out that Peter Parker is Spider-Man and the wall-crawler's decision not to join the ranks of The Avengers. 

The duo also 
explain the thinking behind that spectacular "Come on Spider-Man!" scene which recreated an iconic moment from Amazing Spider-Man #33 and how Aunt May learning the truth about her nephew is going to change the franchise moving forward. It goes without saying that Peter's secret being out is big and it sounds like it will play into the sequel in an understandably huge way. 

Stay tuned for more on Spider-Man: Homecoming and find all the movie's Easter Eggs by clicking here.

On The Standout Scene Where Peter Parker Learns The Vulture Is Liz's Father:

 
Goldstein: Some of our favorite scenes are where the villain doesn't yet know, but the audience does and you watch the villain realize who he's with, and that's sort of both of them discovering who the other is. There's just inherently great tension to that.

Daley: It was a scene we were sort of giddy when we first came up with it, because it's taking the obvious tension of meeting the father of the girl that you have a crush on, and multiplying it by 1,000, when you also realize he's the guy you've been trying to stop the whole time.

Goldstein: Jon Watts did a really nice job. You think you are on a high-school movie track, and then you are slammed right back into the superhero/villain story. And the two converge very nicely there.

On Peter Parker's Decision To Refuse Iron Man's Offer To Join The Avengers:
 
Goldstein: It's part of the overall arc for where Peter is in learning that he doesn't need the suit to be a hero, nor does he need membership in the Avengers to be a hero. He is his own guy, and the ultimate embrace of that is turning down an offer from Tony Stark.

On Recreating An Iconic Moment From Amazing Spider-Man #33:
 
Daley: That allusion was something Kevin Feige really wanted to put into this script, because it sort of embodies the internal struggle that Peter Parker is facing throughout, where he is his own greatest enemy in some ways, to have to accept himself before he can do anything helpful for the world. We have him starting the scene with such self-doubt and helplessness, in a way that you really see the kid. You feel for him. He's screaming for help, because he doesn't think he can do it, and then in the context of that flashback, he kind of realizes that that's been his biggest problem. He didn't have the confidence in himself to get himself out of there.
 
On Aunt May Learning Her Nephew Is Spider-Man And What That Means Moving Forward:
 
Goldstein: It just sort of diminishes what is often the most trivial part of superhero worlds, which is finding your secret. It takes the emphasis off that, lets her become part of what's really his life, so it's not cloak-and-dagger stuff. It's how does he best use these powers to help the world, help himself and his family and act responsibly. What's funny is, when we first went in to Marvel, we said we were imagining that Aunt May would be a Marisa Tomei type, and they kind of exchanged a look, because they were already secretly in negotiations with her. So things worked out well; we were all on the same page.
 
Daley: It sets up a fun storyline of having this maternal figure, who is supposed to protect this kid, but also knowing this kid is so much stronger than she is, and in fact his job is going to be to protect her, presumably.

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Benjamitesandwich
Benjamitesandwich - 7/12/2017, 1:05 PM
Best twist in recent memory; it was simple and tense, built in a way you NEVER saw it coming. It definitely set the stage for the third act, similar to GotG 2.

SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/12/2017, 4:50 PM
@Benjamitesandwich - dude when Vulture was perched on that billboard my entire theater either gasped of said "Oh sh**t" he was hands down the best villain in the MCU since Loki.
Mrsinister
Mrsinister - 7/12/2017, 1:08 PM
It's not even that big of a twist
stephhurry
stephhurry - 7/12/2017, 2:24 PM
@Mrsinister - It wasn't, well because I [frick]ing spoiled it for myself but man I wish I didn't
PrinceDwight
PrinceDwight - 7/12/2017, 4:47 PM
@stephhurry - that freaken sucks LOOOL easily one of the best part of the movie not knowing the twist
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/12/2017, 5:31 PM
@Mrsinister - I would rather he address the 8 years later thing just to know exactly what the timeline is.
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 7/12/2017, 1:09 PM
I thought for sure these guys would have been totally sidelined after their VACATION flopped. Disney and Marvel tend to get jumpy when their filmmakers do poorly or otherwise show creative weakness. Cool to see their work remains in the film (though likely augmented by four other writers) and they are doing press.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/12/2017, 4:56 PM
@NoAssemblyReqd - You forget that Marvel has a solid grasp on what they want. This is what ultimately led Edgar Wright and Marvel to get into problems and then Wright was booted.

Marvel crafts the concept art, vision, plot, and scope. They just need a director to bring that concept to life.
ODanil
ODanil - 7/12/2017, 1:11 PM
I was VERY SHOCKED when Michael Keaton opened that door. The tone of the scene, the music, nothing was hinting at the twist, which is why it was so effective!
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 7/12/2017, 1:14 PM
@ODanil - The audience gasped loudly when I saw it. Such an unexpected, off-putting moment, when you're already empathizing with Peter's nervousness about taking Liz.
smgmayhem
smgmayhem - 7/12/2017, 1:15 PM
@ODanil - Yeah almost everyone in my viewing either gasped or literally blurted out "OH S#!T!" when that scene happened.
ODanil
ODanil - 7/12/2017, 1:16 PM
@NoAssemblyReqd - yes! I've never seen such a loud "OOoohhh" from a movie audience;
smgmayhem
smgmayhem - 7/12/2017, 1:11 PM
I think May knowing his secret will bring some good drama to the sequel.
sjoerdo0
sjoerdo0 - 7/12/2017, 1:11 PM
What did you Guys think about the 2 Shockers in Homecoming ???

Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/12/2017, 1:59 PM
@sjoerdo0 -

Was not a fan of the apparent leaked comic-accurate design of Shocker, something about the head seemed off to me, maybe it was just the 'v' shape.

In terms of the design used for the promotional material and the toy, i think it works but could do with a bit more refining, mostly in regards to the gauntlets which i feel could be smaller more like the comic counterpart.
TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 7/12/2017, 2:25 PM
@sjoerdo0 - well they didn't really much, kinda hard to judge.
TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 7/12/2017, 2:25 PM
do**
Asturgis
Asturgis - 7/12/2017, 1:15 PM
No new confusing explanation about MJ?

"Listen, guys, obviously, she's not MJ, but at the same time, she's MJ. I mean, you don't know, we don't know, we were super high (we're high right now), so I guess we'll see. Maybe she's MJ. Maybe not. I mean, she's not, but maybe she will be. Who can tell, really? You should probably ask the writers."
KWilly
KWilly - 7/12/2017, 1:42 PM
@Asturgis - One thing that I noticed recently about that scene. Remember the tiger mascot running through the Hall, right before she drops the MJ bomb? Very subtle reference to "Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot". I feel the writers intentionally wanted her to be "Mary Jane."
DJRock93
DJRock93 - 7/12/2017, 2:48 PM
@KWilly - he runs through the hall in an earlier scene as well though, but I can't remember whether or not it was a scene featuring Michelle
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 7/12/2017, 1:16 PM
Aunt May knowing Spidey's secret and her letting her 15 year old nephew go out after losing uncle ben, I just aint buying it. Not when he's so young, I don't care how powerful he is. And neither would your parent or guardian in real life.
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