Suicide Squad Reviews - Fan's Reception

Suicide Squad Reviews - Fan's Reception

The reviews for Suicide Squad are in! And unfortunately showcased the worst aspects of fans of the genre.

Editorial Opinion
By PesciGotPepsi - Aug 03, 2016 01:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Suicide Squad

Suicide Squad was my most anticipated movie of the summer, up there with Jason Bourne. Everything from the bombastic trailers, weird posters, set photos and just basically the whole marketing was fantastic! I'd say the marketing for the movie is up there with this year's Deadpool. Everything seemed like it was going well for the movie, most people were excited and it actually has Fandango's highest record of tickets sold for August.

It was all going well…..until the reviews came out. Currently it stands on RottenTomatoes that 35% of critics liked them movie with an average score of 5.3/10. Is that a fair rating? Well I'll tell you in a minute, but I wanted to talk about the response to these reviews, mainly on this site.
 



 

My hype went down massively, as I'm sure most others did but It sickens me to find out that people are actually ENJOYING this. Comic book fans are actually getting a sense of enjoyment over another CBM failing with critics. Why is this a problem? Listen, we are all on the same team. Yes, even WB/DC and Disney/ Marvel are on the same team. They, and we, want comic book movies to keep going forever and ever. The only thing to stop that is with the big 'comic book movie fatigue' that every director in Hollywood likes to throw around. If comic book movies, like Suicide Squad, keep failing with critics and some fans of the genre actually LIKE seeing this, then the 'comic book movie fatigue' WILL HAPPEN. It just saddens me that fellow CBM fans are enjoying watching the DCEU fail only because of petty reasons like:


1. It was overhyped (yeah, [frick] those people for believing a movie to be good, right?)
2. DC fanboys are getting cocky (yeah, and Marvel fanboys aren't?)
3. I don't like DC so I want it to fail

That 3rd reason is the most I've seen from people on this site, even if they don't admit it. Watching the CBM genre decrease in critical appeal is good to you? Really? And for wanting to see the CBM genre fail more and more only because you're a blind corporate slave? There is one user (I will not say who) who, after all the reviews came out, decided to post screen shots of comments from users from weeks, even months back who were predicting great things from the film, and put a giant 'WRONG' sign next to it. That is probably the most pathetic thing I've seen on this site in years.

Suicide Squad failing doesn't help Marvel in anyway possible! In-fact, it actually damages Marvel.

The worst part of this whole thing? People are now are just going to be with the critics opinions, and fail to make up their own. Hell, some people are already saying the movie sucks, and they haven't even seen it yet! This is what I'm talking about, blind RT drones who just follow the percentage bar even if they thought the movie was good. And remember, Sharknado has an 82% on RT. Most of the time, I agree with RT. Will I agree this time? I don't know yet but It's annoying to see people already agree with it even though they haven't seen it yet. And it's funny how people seem to flip-flop over whether RT is a trustworthy source. With Ghostbusters, they don't think it is but with Suicide Squad, they think it is.

This is truly a sad day for DC fans. However, don't put out bullshit like 'BRING DOWN ROTTENTOMATOES BECAUSE I DISAGREE EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE'. That is total bullshit right there. There is actually a petition to shut down RT because they disagreed with the percentage, before they have even seen the movie. This only puts a negative viewpoint of fans of the genre. View points that made the Ghostbusters sexist basement-living haters angle Sony used for marketing such an easy target. Saying the movie is fantastic and RT should be shut down before actually seeing the [frick]ing thing is just as bad as not watching the movie and saying it sucks based of a percentage.


Who knows, I could think the movie is fantastic, or maybe I think the movie sucks. I'm not here to pick sides like some pathetic losers on this site thinks thats what everything is about - But in one day, the reviews for Suicide Squad have brought out the absolute worse about the fans of the CBM genre.

This was all mumbled rant nonsense, I know. Just wanting to give out my thoughts of people's reactions.
 

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MrMajestyk
MrMajestyk - 8/3/2016, 2:05 PM
I've been in SHOCK since yesterday! Alot of those critics that reviewed the film negatively told a different story at the Critcs showing. Unfortunately it looks like bashing DC has become big news and drives traffic to their reviews more so if they just say they liked it.

EMPIRE, the number 1 film magazine don't need to do that though and they described SUICIDE SQUAD as doing for DC what AVENGERS did for the Marvel.

The Critics and some audience has totally misunderstood what Suicide Squad was meant to be...it's basically a subversive art film that recontextualizes the Super Hero film and creates something New, Fresh and totally unique.

This film may not find it's critical place in 2016 but i know it will be re-examined in the years to come especially once those 16-30 year old age group that this film will really speak to get into positions where they can voice their opinion rather have it told them by some cynical limp wristed Movie critics!

I still totally believe in Suicide Squad. I [frick]ING LOVED IT and look forward to seeing it again and again and again...

My Top 10 Films since 2010

1: The Tree of Life
2: Upstream Color
3: Under the Skin
4: The Master
5: The Act of Killing
6: Mad Max: Fury Road
7: Holy Motors
8: Only God Forgives
9: Suicide Squad
10: The Grand Budapest Hotel
GinjaNinja
GinjaNinja - 8/3/2016, 2:17 PM
@MrMajestyk - This is sad... People basically continually say that DC films are just misunderstood and go over peoples heads. Just to let you know, if you have to search for the good movie in a movie, the movie sucks
MrMajestyk
MrMajestyk - 8/3/2016, 2:31 PM
@GinjaNinja - People were clapping and cheering in the cinema when i saw it, you could tell people had an absolute blast with it.

The same thing will happen this weekend. I guarantee you this is far from the end of the story for Suicide Squad in terms of its critical assessment.

The Thing (1982) Directed by John Carpenter was absolutely panned by Critics when it came out but is now seen as a Modern Horror classic with hundreds of articles written about how important a film it is.

I could give many more examples like it, what i'm saying is that sometimes a GREAT FILM will get hammered for no reason except that it was ahead of its time!

I also guarantee you, had this film been released pre MOS and BvS it would have been met with a much better critical reception...it really has been tarred by those previous films especially BvS.
GinjaNinja
GinjaNinja - 8/3/2016, 2:39 PM
@MrMajestyk - To be fare I think it's going to be super fun. Just not a good film itself.
MrMajestyk
MrMajestyk - 8/3/2016, 2:53 PM
@GinjaNinja - As i just mentioned on another thread. One of my absolute favourite films of the last 6 years is 'ONLY GOD FORGIVES' which is very much STYLE OVER CONTENT which is how i would describe SS too. Although i appreciate MARVEL's great story telling, i also find it a bit too bland for my tastes...after all we're talking about a Comics which are a visual medium.

SS understands its source material better then perhaps any CBM i've ever seen and just gives you a LIVING BREATHING COMIC STRIP on film...it may not have fully fleshed characters and some of the jumps and leaps it takes in story telling may not be good narrative story telling but [frick] ALL THAT, i just sat back and GLORIED IN THE WONDERFUL, FUN AND BEAUTIFUL VISUAL SMORGASBOARD it was giving me!

This is a CULT FILM in the making, the kind of film teenagers will be getting high on ten years from now and complaining they should be making movies like this in 2026!

Cinema is first and foremost a VISUAL EXPERIENCE and if you let this film to hit you on that level, you're in for an amazing experience.
HankPymp
HankPymp - 8/3/2016, 3:36 PM
@MrMajestyk - I'll also add Big Trouble in Little China on that list.
MrMajestyk
MrMajestyk - 8/3/2016, 2:09 PM
Also, i would strongly advise DC to start looking outside their current talent net for Directors who bring a tried and tested vision that would get both Critical plaudits and Box Office bucks too.

Here is my Top 5 Directors DC need to hire ASAP.

Mel Gibson - Hacksaw Ridge looks Amazing, Gibson is brilliant at putting together action scenes and create mythology so would be perfect for an epic Superhero movie.

David Fincher - One of the most intelligent and solid directors working in films today, mixes up great visuals with compelling story telling.

Alfonso Cuarón - One of the greatest visual story tellers out there, 'The Children of Men' is still one of my favourite films since the 2000's.

Gareth Evans - The Raid films have shown this guy to be one of the best Action directors out there, he has the perfect style to bring something new to CBM's.

Guillermo del Toro - Tried and tested in the genre directing three very good CBM'S in his two Hellboy films and Blade Sequel. Would almost be a sure thing especially for DC's slightly offbeat source material.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/3/2016, 2:40 PM
After reading about how the studio execs reshooting half the movie, I'm more pissed at them for tampering with Ayers vision. I will still be watching this movie and judging for myself but it sucks that critics are ripping it apart.
I was just discussing with another user earlier, how this is not good for the genre as a whole. Fatigue will set in, when the GA gets tired of movies when they dont have a history of making good CBM's.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 4:01 PM
@sKeemAn - And as many have stated just cause you guys don't like the MCU means the rest of the world doesn't.

So far Marvel has proven they can do good films with lesser known characters.

Stop acting like this film hurts the genre, it Hurst WB and Ayer.

I didn't hear these same cases being made when Fant4stic, this bad film will hurt the entire genre.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/3/2016, 4:37 PM
@MileHighRonin - @MileHighRonin - "And as many have stated just cause you guys don't like the MCU means the rest of the world doesn't."

What? I like the MCU.

"Stop acting like this film hurts the genre, it Hurst WB and Ayer."
Dude CBM's have been the bottom of the barrel for Hollywood movies for years. They just recently started getting good with TDK and IM. Studios will not put money into movies if they dont think they will be financially successful. One way to make that success happen is movie reviews. If movies with iconic characters like Batman & Superman fail to meet the standards of the GA, studios will stop investing in them. Hurting the entire genre.

"I didn't hear these same cases being made when Fant4stic, this bad film will hurt the entire genre."

Then you weren't paying attention. Plenty if users were saying the same thing.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 4:48 PM
@sKeemAn - when I say guys I mean people in general. And I was listening to the hate FF got. It was deemed crap before released.

And again you guys are putting all comic book properties in the same bag. Marvel Studios is strictly a comic boom studio and will be just fine as long as they continue to work hard. Fox will continue to make X Films cause people pay for them.

You guys are trying to make a mountain put of a hill. WB is the one who should be worried not the genre.

And we are no longer the bottom of the barrel thanks to Nolan breaking through the door and Marvel Studios for kicking the door down. Hollywood as a whole may not due cbm's due to fear but Marvel Studios will not and niether will Fox.

The genre will be fine, mark my words Suicide Squad will be a cult film over time. Critics will hate it but over time people will watch it and like it.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/3/2016, 5:00 PM
@MileHighRonin - I agree initially its going to hurt WB and Ayer. But I guarantee, if this movie is actually bad, it will hurt the BO of the next WB cbm. Which is WW. And i'm praying that the WB doesnt screw that one up also.
kong
kong - 8/3/2016, 6:28 PM
@MileHighRonin - General audiences don't split comic book movies in to Marvel vs DC, like a lot of fans do. They just see them as superhero movies. Every bad CBM hurts the genre, every good one helps.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 6:31 PM
@kong - lol false. They see the logo Marvel or DC before the beginning of every film. They may not know which character belongs to who but once they see the logo they know the difference. Just like people know the difference between Universal and Fox. They are not complete morans.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 6:33 PM
@kong - they don't do DC vs Marvel but they are not the same company. If they like past Marvel films then they will give future Marvel Films a shot. Same with Fox or even WB.
kong
kong - 8/3/2016, 6:34 PM
@MileHighRonin - The difference is THEY DON'T GIVE A [frick].

Trust me, I know TONS of people that ask me why Superman and Iron Man don't team up.

And if takes them to see the logo at the beginning of the movie to tell the difference, it's too late. Why? Because to see that logo they would've had to pay for the ticket in the first place.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 6:37 PM
@kong - And they don't see that logo before the trailers that get played before other films?
kong
kong - 8/3/2016, 6:43 PM
@MileHighRonin - They don't care! They go to a movie to see a movie. They don't give a [frick] about who put it out, and don't go in with expectations based on what studio put it out.

Fanboys are the idiots that ake up their minds because of what studio finances the movie. Not the GA.

I'm clearly never going to convince you of this, so I'm just going to stop arguing. Continue on in your ignorance, and I hope you aren't enlightened by the death of the comic book movie.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 6:52 PM
@kong - lol they do care, they are giving their hard earned money away, they want to get their money's worth.

You go ahead and believe this is the end because DC has some critics disliking the film. When Marvel continues to put out good films, you will realize how silly you and others reacted to one films critic response.

What happens if Wonder Woman knocks it out of the park? Is it back to Marvel better watch out, oh wait you guys are still doing that.
kong
kong - 8/3/2016, 8:38 PM
@MileHighRonin - I don't think they're the end. It just hurts the genre. We got a bunch of bad found footage films after some really good ones, and now we don't have them as much anymore.

You said it best. "They want to get their money's worth". If the last 3 superhero movies they saw were bad then why would they spend their money on the 4th.

I'm extremely glad churns out movies I and most people like. So for every BvS and Suicide Squad, there's a Civil War and Doctor Strange (hopefully). I pray Doctor Strange is good, so CBMS have a nice connotation in everyone's minds before the next year of CBMs start.

Suicide Squad being critically panned doesn't kill the genre, but it hurts it. That's one more person that was getting sick of superhero movies that won't go to Doctor Strange, or Wonder Woman, or Justice League, or Spider-Man: Homecoming, or Thor: Ragnarok.

I don't make it a Marvel, DC thing. Like you seem to be doing.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/4/2016, 4:11 AM
@kong - I'm simply saying Suicide Sqaud is not carrying the genre on its back. How am I making this about Marvel?, the article is the one who made it about all comic book films including Marvel. I'm defending the whole genre, Wonder Woman can easily save DC.

This is not about Marvel, but about some people thinking Suicide Squad ment so much to the genre.
kong
kong - 8/4/2016, 9:11 AM
@MileHighRonin - And I'm simply telling you that not I, or anyone else, is saying Suicide Squad is carrying the genre on it's back. We're saying it'll hurt it, just like EVERY bad comic book movie does.

"You go ahead and believe this is the end because DC has some critics disliking the film. When Marvel continues to put out good films, you will realize how silly you and others reacted to one films critic response."

"And as many have stated just cause you guys don't like the MCU means the rest of the world doesn't. So far Marvel has proven they can do good films with lesser known characters. Stop acting like this film hurts the genre, it Hurst WB and Ayer. I didn't hear these same cases being made when Fant4stic, this bad film will hurt the entire genre."


Yeah, you didn't make this a Marvel/DC or Marvel Studios/WB thing at ALL.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/4/2016, 9:31 AM
@kong - again I said it because you guys quickly say this hurts the entire genre, so why can't the opposite be said of Marvel? Marvel's success has people watching the films regardless of genre or brand.

I just think you guys are putting too much into this one film, this does not hurt the genre at all.

And again you say I make it about Marvel, yet here you guys are saying that because a DCEU film didn't live up to expectations that the entire genre, including Marvel is doomed.

You guys are the ones making this about all comic book films when this is about WB not having a sound plan.
kong
kong - 8/4/2016, 10:08 AM
@MileHighRonin - "And I'm simply telling you that not I, or anyone else, is saying Suicide Squad is carrying the genre on it's back. We're saying it'll hurt it, just like EVERY bad comic book movie does. "

The comic book genre isn't doomed because of this one movie. I know that! I never said it was. I said it hurts! If you get a burn on your hand from touching a hot pan out of the oven it's gonna hurt, but you're not gonna die. Hurt and doom/end/destroy/ruin are very different words. I just want you to understand that you're arguing against nothing. You're arguing against claims we didn't make that you said we are. If Doctor Strange sucks, it will hurt the comic book genre. if Spider-Man: Homecoming sucks it'll hurt he CBM genre. If Thor: Ragnarok sucks it'll hurt the CBM genre. I'm not saying it'll hurt because it's a DCEU film, and I never said that. I have two comments talking about how it doesn't even matter what studio puts it out.

Don't argue with me about words that YOU put in my mouth.
MiKi
MiKi - 8/3/2016, 3:01 PM
Can't argue with that mate. Its a sorry state that will eventually lead to cbms no longer getting the attention they deserve. Wanting something to fail, just because its made by another studio? People don't seem able to grasp that regardless of which studio made this film or that film, if this trend continues ALL cbms are gonna suffer.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 3:58 PM
@MiKi - lol dude really? Not all will fail. Just cause this film is not what the hype made it means this effects Marvel. You guys just want to start acting all Civil and play victim.
MiKi
MiKi - 8/3/2016, 4:10 PM
@MileHighRonin - yeah really. You and I will still watch cbms but what worries me us the knock on effect. I'm not saying it "will happen" but, like I said it still worries me. FYI I'm pretty sure ive always been very "civil" and have certainly never played victim dude. I don't come here looking for arguments or sympathy.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 4:18 PM
@MiKi - sorry I didn't mean to accuse you, I ment in general.

I think this film is going to be like John Wick. Critics were not thrilled but those that know great action films know it was a great film.
MiKi
MiKi - 8/3/2016, 4:37 PM
@MileHighRonin - @MileHighRonin - that's cool man, I get your point about in general. Definitely some crazies on here for sure!haha I agree with you regards to critics and certain films ( still haven't got round to seeing John Wick yet though ), Anyhow, will be able to judge SS for myself in less than 24hrs!
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/3/2016, 3:53 PM
Lmfao You guys need to stop saying Suicide Squad having a bad showing will hurt Marvel. It hurts DC and WB not Marvel Studios. Did the failure of Fant4stic make people not want to watch Civil War? Stop trying to make something out of nothing, this film is not the Holy grail that will end it all.

As long as people put out good movies the genre will not die. I hate to break it to you guys but the public and critics don't view Marvel Studio's as a joke. There track record speaks for itself, again just cause you guys don't like MCU doesn't mean other feel that way too.

I blame Ayer and his cocky attitude. It seems like his was so concerned about doing things opposite of Marvel that he didn't truly focus on his film. He was so anti-Marvel he forgot to ensure his film was given proper attention.

Now some will make excuses for Ayer and say it was the studio, if I'm not mistaken that was DC Trolls biggest knock on Marvel is they are too involved.

I will watch this film and make my own judgement, but I am tired of DC fans saying comic book fans should be worried about the genre cause people don't like SS. You guys have put this film on a pedistul before a trailer even dropped. Ayer and his mouth, along with DC Trolls fed the hype train.

Stop overreacting, this film if anything will make WB get their act together cause if they want to make the DCEU then they need to make some changes.
MrMajestyk
MrMajestyk - 8/3/2016, 7:24 PM
Here's a 5 STAR REVIEW that actually GETS IT.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/02/suicide-squad-review-jared-leto-will-smith-and-margot-robbie-save-dcs-movie-universe

Suicide Squad kills it: David Ayer’s adrenalin-driven, sexually twisted and devilishly fun comic book movie is instantly the best so far in the DC Extended Universe.

So it was up to maverick filmmaker Ayer to revitalize, rejuvenate and otherwise re-up the DC franchise. He has done just that, with a singular vision, an unbridled passion and a creative vengeance that is so bold and so bad (in a colourfully good way) that it leaves viewers breathless. That has to be a step forward for DC and Warner Bros
tonytony
tonytony - 8/7/2016, 12:29 PM
believe it or not rotten tomatoes has an impact on those people in the middle who are not hardcore fans, the very loud noise the media makes about these movies and then when you watch them you realise its un-deserved is whats really disappointing.

In the end the exaggeration by the media in hating of these movies only does two things
1) it makes you take them less seriously in future (ie damages credibility)
2) it makes you wonder about the person reviewing them (ie damages credibility, again)

the real enemy of the critics are the critics not the fans simply giving honest opinion or feedback on critics work like critics give feedback or honest opinion on Movies
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