James Gunn Says PEACEMAKER Season 1 Is NOT Part Of DCU Canon; SUPERMAN Will Lead Into Season 2

James Gunn Says PEACEMAKER Season 1 Is NOT Part Of DCU Canon; SUPERMAN Will Lead Into Season 2

James Gunn has shared some interesting updates on the status of the second season of Peacemaker, while confirming that the events of season 1 are not part of the new DCU canon...

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By MarkCassidy - Mar 10, 2024 12:03 PM EST
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James Gunn has taken to Threads to share updates on the second season of Peacemaker, and some follow-up questions from fans have led to a few intriguing revelations.

Gunn initially addressed Jennifer Holland (Emilia Harcourt) mentioning that filming is set to begin this summer, confirming that he does indeed plan to shoot season 2 of Peacemaker and Superman at the same time.

"The source is kind of iffy but this is true," Gunn began. "John Cena shared this on Howard Stern last week. To answer your follow-up questions: yes, we’ll be shooting Superman & Peacemaker simultaneously; yes, I’ve written all the episodes; but, no, in the interest of getting the show out there I won’t be able to direct them all (only some); & yes, Waller’s still happening & Jeremy & Christal are hard at work writing great stuff, but the schedule was impacted by the strikes so it’ll come after Peacemaker."

When Gunn took the job as co-CEO of DC Studios alongside Peter Safran, it seemed pretty obvious that Peacemaker season 2 was going to be part of the new DCU, and while this is the case, the first season is not!

We're not certain why (the Justice League showing up in the S1 finale likely has something to do with it), but, as far as we know, this is the first time two seasons of the same series will exist in different continuities.

Gunn also revealed that Peacemaker season 2 will be set after the events of Superman, and the reboot will "have an impact" on the Max series. Does this mean we can expect to see some Peacemaker characters show up in Superman? Not necessarily, but that's what post-credits scenes are for, after all! 

What do you make of these updates? Drop us a comment down below.

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"Peacemaker explores the continuing story of the character that John Cena reprises in the aftermath of executive producer James Gunn's 2021 film The Suicide Squad – a compellingly vainglorious man who believes in peace at any cost, no matter how many people he has to kill to get it!"

The Peacemaker season one cast includes John Cena, Danielle Brooks, Freddie Stroma, Jennifer Holland, Chukwudi Iwuji, Steve Agee, and Robert Patrick. Gunn wrote all eight episodes and also directed five of them, starting with the pilot. Gunn, Peter Safran, and Matt Miller are the series' executive producers. Co-executive producer John Cena and consulting producer Stacy Littlejohn are also involved in the production of the show.

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TheLobster
TheLobster - 3/10/2024, 12:06 PM
Interesting. Messy but interesting.

I’ve always wanted a complete reboot since picking things to bring over to DCU comes across as wanting to have your cake and to eat it too so this is a step in the right direction.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/10/2024, 12:57 PM
@TheLobster - For now I'll tend to think of it like post crisis in Arrowverse where the events of that fully rebooted the entire universe and nobody was aware that anything was different bar all the main characters were made aware/knew of all their past events of the pre-rebooted universe if that makes sense. Either that or they will simply transport characters from a non-canon (DCEU) universe to the new DCU one via a magic or tech portal type thing (again so season one events did not occur in or canon to the new universe even if the characters came from there and recall them) but we'll see.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 3/10/2024, 1:40 PM
@TheLobster -

I wanted a complete reboot, but I honestly dont mind the more mid tier characters like Peacemaker crossing over. We seem to be getting a rebooted Justice League roster at least and I can live with that.

Waller still seems like the most dull "who asked for this" idea for a show though I will die on this hill.
whoknows
whoknows - 3/10/2024, 2:25 PM
@TheLobster - to have your cake and eat it too, it is cake, that’s what you’re suppose to do.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/10/2024, 3:33 PM
@TheLobster - Peacemaker and Vigilante are too brilliant to leave behind. This is a great decision.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/10/2024, 3:42 PM
@whoknows - but then you wouldn't have it anymore.
whoknows
whoknows - 3/10/2024, 10:39 PM
@ObserverIO - I have the memory 😊
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 3/10/2024, 12:10 PM
Glad people enjoyed it, but I could not possibly be less interested in a franchise or character than I am for Peacemaker
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/10/2024, 12:17 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - I thought DOOM PATROL was WAAAAAAY better.
xfactor
xfactor - 3/10/2024, 12:24 PM
@lazlodaytona - you're in the minority with that one. I enjoyed peacemaker much more than doom patrol. Personally i thought doom patrol was alright. Not great but not bad. Better than titans.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/10/2024, 1:01 PM
@xfactor - I enjoyed season one of Doom Patrol more than season one of Peacemaker, just place Peacemaker above the rest of Doom Patrol's seasons.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 3/10/2024, 1:13 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - I couldn’t get i to Season 1. Not sure if I even finished it.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/10/2024, 1:23 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - I didn't see anything special in the character in the film, but the series is fantastic tbh. They made a pretty rich character to explore.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/10/2024, 3:34 PM
@lazlodaytona - Doom Patrol is okay. Peacemaker was great.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/10/2024, 6:05 PM
@xfactor - pretty sure i am not in the minority. Brendan Frasier made the show and it was just a great, different, fun time.
Peacemaker was a spinoff of a failed "The Suicide Squad" film and had maybe a few good scenes overall. Heck, if it was so great, then why does the first season mean absolutely nothing going into the new DCU?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/10/2024, 6:14 PM
@McMurdo - DOOM PATROL was new and a fantastic comic book show .... plus beyond great.

Peacemaker was boring, had a few decent scenes over its run, and was a waste of time .... obviously because season 1 isn't cannon thus being a waste of time.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/10/2024, 7:57 PM
@lazlodaytona - I feel the exact opposite. Doom control was superbly boring for me. Couldn't finish the first season.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 3/10/2024, 12:10 PM
Huh...
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/10/2024, 12:13 PM
It can’t be the continuing story of Peacemaker if the first season is not cannon.
How are they going to continue with the growth of that character if what the character went through didn’t happen?
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/10/2024, 12:21 PM
@philinterrupted - This is why I feel like WB should do a mini movie like a special presentation of Braniac explaining the Elseworlds and how each version of himself have successfully connected to a hive mind and have been eradicating each timeline/universe. Braniac would mention how he has had to evade the Speedsters and Kryptonian in ever universe but ultimately they failed. And he now has his eyes set on the next universe which would be the DCU and we see various screens of his recordings of various heroes. And each DCU movie starts with Braniac pressing play to study the footage of each hero and we the audience get to view the movie as a movie but Braniac is watching it like a recording.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/10/2024, 1:07 PM
@philinterrupted - season one familiarized you with the characters and season 2 tells a different story with these same characters.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 3/10/2024, 1:13 PM
@philinterrupted - The growth he underwent can just be part of his unwritten backstory.

I mean, there's still room for a person to grow, even after growing. Plus, this way they're not beholden to specific events... like the Justice League already existing and having met him.
kazuma
kazuma - 3/10/2024, 2:23 PM
@philinterrupted - The Batman was year 2 of his career. We didn't need to see his origin because we all now what it is.
Superman (Legacy), is doing the same thing. It's an established Superman, because we all know his origin.

Peacemaker season 1 taught the audience who Peacemaker is. Look at season 1 as his origin. We know his origin, and now we don't need to see it again.
Blue Beetle will be doing the same thing in the DCU. The DCEU Blue Beetle movie, taught the audience who that character is and how/why is he. We don't need to see it again.
New version, of the same character. Lets just get the story going.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/10/2024, 3:02 PM
@EskimoJ - But that makes season 1 pointless as it's not connected to season 2.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/10/2024, 3:03 PM
@WruceBayne - But it's not the same characters. It's different versions of them if it isn't canon.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/10/2024, 3:30 PM
@kazuma - I’m not talking about needing an origin. I’m not even necessarily saying any of this is going to matter.

The Batman started in year 2. The character developed based on what happened in that movie. Wouldn’t it be weird if in The Batman part 2 they decided none of that first movie was “cannon”? What’s the point of all that development if you’re not going to use it to continue telling that story.

So are we just starting from scratch again with Peacemaker? That’s fine, I just find it an interesting choice.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/10/2024, 3:35 PM
@EskimoJ - and all the same characters are returning.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/10/2024, 3:37 PM
@dagenspear - not necessarily. Much of what happened in s1 can remain backstory. It depends if this is a different Peacemaker altogether or if something happens that causes these characters to be the same but now exist in the new DCU. We don't know enough yet.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/10/2024, 3:44 PM
@EskimoJ - the question is, did he indeed grow if it didn’t happen?
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/10/2024, 3:45 PM
@dagenspear - but they’re not going to be so different that you’re confused. Some events from the first season just won’t be addressed in the second season. You’re not going to watch the second season wondering who this Peacemaker guy is or what his motivations are.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/10/2024, 4:09 PM
@philinterrupted - Until we know more we can't say with certainty it IS a contunuing story or not and multiple ways the events on Earth of season 1 would not be canon and season 2 be a seperate story of continuing.

1.) Season one he was still in a coma, everything that we saw was in his head so only he experienced and grew from it then actualy wakes up in season two.
2.) Flash was at the end of season one and he went and changed timelines in his film, that means he could have changed season one's timeline such that season two is only loose canon and his past (ie season one) won't be addressed at all and not considered canon but the characters will themselves be almost exactly how they were at the end of season one anyway.
3.) Core characters at the start of the series will be transported to the new DCU somehow, they will remember the events of season one but those events will not be canon to the new universe (in which he may have died in an altered suicide squad film).
4.) They do something freaky where the world of season one is rebooted/altered drastically due to the Flash film like the world was in Arrowverse version of Crisis on Infinate Earths but Peacemaker retains or regains memory of events of the now gone pre-rebooted/altered universe. The new rebooted one may not be the one the Flash ended up in at all this way as he tried to change things multiple times as I understand it but not worth worrying about that unless/until it makes any difference.
5.) Basicaly an entirely seperate story in an entirely new unconnected universe but the characters are roughly where we left them (but some who died could still be alive) and just think of it as a new season one and don't worry about it.
6.) Something else I haven't thought of
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/10/2024, 4:29 PM
@WruceBayne - .Of course no one’s confused about who’s who. But there’s equity in have a history with characters.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/10/2024, 5:39 PM
@philinterrupted - it’s was only one season and it was an introductory season at that. Not much equity there. Nothings going to be too different to where someone doesn’t know what’s going on.
kazuma
kazuma - 3/10/2024, 6:12 PM
@philinterrupted - the dcu peacemaker is a peacemaker that has gone through gone through events to get him to where he is now.
Those events can be seen in a different universe but that doesn't make them less important.
We didn't see Spiderman get bite in the mcu. but because of the previous movies we know how he was bitting and why he started fighting crime.
same logic applies here. Knowledge of the previous version is past down.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/10/2024, 6:39 PM
@philinterrupted - multiverse
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/10/2024, 6:46 PM
@McMurdo - Then season 1 would be canon to it.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/10/2024, 6:48 PM
@WruceBayne - It's not about confusion for me. I ask, what's the point if it's not the same characters?
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/10/2024, 7:17 PM
@WruceBayne - it apparently was an introductory season to nothing.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/10/2024, 7:26 PM
@kazuma - this isn’t about know who the general character of Peacemaker is.
I’m talking about the version of the character from the first season of the TV show. That version of that character went through an arc.
Starting a second season where that arc didn’t happen is weird. I’m certainly not trying to oversell the investment that an audience might have in a character, especially Peacemaker, but don’t undersell the idea that watching a season of a show would build investment in these character in relation to the events they’ve gone through. Starting a 2nd season that acts as that stuff didn’t happen is just weird.

I’m sure there are ways around it, or it’s just not going to matter in the long run. It’s just peacemaker after all. It’s just interesting that some of you don’t understand that some people will be confused that season 2 of a show is not going to be connected at all to the first season.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/10/2024, 7:41 PM
@philinterrupted - you know who the characters are and what their alignment is so it did its job.
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