GAME OF THRONES Final Season Backlash Addressed By Showrunners David Benioff And Dan Weiss

GAME OF THRONES Final Season Backlash Addressed By Showrunners David Benioff And Dan Weiss

Game of Thrones' final season received a negative response from fans, and showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss have now weighed in on the backlash. They also discuss walking away from the franchise...

By JoshWilding - Jan 11, 2024 09:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Game of Thrones
Source: SFFGazette.com

For a time, David Benioff and Dan Weiss could do no wrong. Game of Thrones was one of the biggest shows on television, receiving widespread critical acclaim and countless awards; it was also loved by fans, no easy task when we're talking about an adaptation of a beloved series of novels.  

Alas, the eighth and final season proved incredibly divisive. Several creative decisions upset viewers, leading to demands for a remake and the dubious honour of Game of Thrones now grossing many a "worst TV finales ever" list. 

Talking to The Hollywood Reporter (via SFFGazette.com), Benioff and Weiss acknowledged that not everyone loved the final season and said they've largely tried to stay out of the online debate.

"You always hope everyone’s going to love anything you do and it would’ve been great if 100 percent of people loved it, but they didn’t," Benioff tells the trade. "You can get so bogged down in public opinion that you spend your whole life googling things and trying to find people who felt one way or the other way."

Adds Weiss, "Even super positive feedback makes you feel weird and teeth-grindy and on edge. There’s a drug quality to the feedback, and as soon as we went cold turkey - the last time I googled myself was in 2013 - the ambient stress level in our lives dropped by about 50 percent overnight."

As for how their encounters with viewers have gone since ending Game of Thrones on such a divisive note, Weiss says, "There’s an underlying decency when people acknowledge you as a person and vice versa. There’s something that happens in the transition from human interaction to online that pushes things in a specifically aggro direction."

Later in the interview, the duo revealed that HBO offered them lifetime producer credits on all future Game of Thrones projects regardless of their involvement. On the cable network's side, the idea would be to make it seem as if those spin-offs had their seal of approval or creative input; Benioff and Weiss, however, weren't biting.

"HBO was kind of confused," Benioff recalls. "I remember their lawyer saying, ‘But it’s just money, we’re just going to pay you.’"

Weiss chimed in to explain, "I don’t think there is such a thing as free money. For us, if our name is on it, especially that, while being completely detached and uninvolved, it felt like the strain that would come with that hands-off approach - with its success or failure or anything in between - was not worth it."

They haven't watched House of the Dragon and don't seem particularly keen to return to Westeros after signing a $200 million deal with Netflix (which is understandable). After season 8, some fans will be pleased to hear that, while others will surely wish the duo was still telling stories in the world created by author George R.R Martin.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/11/2024, 9:09 AM
While season 8 was a shit show, you can't really blame them. Blame the bum who takes a hundred years to write a book, meanwhile Stephen King has written like 10 books since then lol. They had to make it up as they went along, and after the reception of season 8 his desire to finish it has definitely diminished
JobinJ
JobinJ - 1/11/2024, 9:15 AM
@bobevanz - that "bum" doesn't owe anyone anything. People act like he owes the world another book.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/11/2024, 9:23 AM
@JobinJ - He doesn’t owe anyone anything, but the poor ending to the adaptation falls on his shoulders more than anyone else. The show objectively fell off once the show passed the books. Also if the story is unfinished because he dies, that also falls on him for his extremely slow writing pace. If he wants his legacy to be an unfinished series, that is certainly his choice. It’s probably not a good choice to make though.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/11/2024, 9:24 AM
@bobevanz - Season 5 onwards was a shit show.
TheLight
TheLight - 1/11/2024, 9:26 AM
@JobinJ - Technically yes and no. No he doesn't as far as the show is concerned since the show was supposed to be taking the reigns for him as he hoped, and yes, due to how the fanbase both from the books and newcomers that primary watched tv all watched GOT and made him richer than he ever thought. GRRM really hoped that d n'd would conclude the show favorably but of course that's not what happened. Now he's pressured into finishing the saga knowing the mess that was made by two idiots that shouldn't have been given the material in the first place.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/11/2024, 9:14 AM

Aaah, no ending would have satisfied all the rabid fans. They wanted it to go on forever.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.




mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/11/2024, 9:49 AM
@DocSpock - yeah that wouldve been stupid like walking dead right now. twd was supposed to end in 6 seasons and they just kept it going on until all the stars left or they couldnt afford them anymore.

game of thrones ending before people got tired of it is already an achievement IMO.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/11/2024, 10:00 AM
@mastakilla39 -

100% agree.

That means you are some kind of genius!
mountainman
mountainman - 1/11/2024, 9:25 AM
The basic story beats - Bran taking the throne, Dani turning evil, Jon denying the throne, and Arya killing the Night King are all things that George agreed to and will put in the books if he ever finishes them.

I don’t have an issue with any of those character endings, only how poorly the final two seasons handled them. It was obvious the show runners and writers didn’t know how to write things once they got ahead of the books.
Evansly
Evansly - 1/11/2024, 10:33 AM
@mountainman - Bran should have been written as the over arching villain of the series. The one who makes everything happen to ultimately make him king. The Hound hearing a voice in the fire? Bran. The voices driving the Mad King mad? Bran.

The show definitely missed a lot of opportunities and it felt more like D&D were more interested in their upcoming Star Wars project. If they were done handing over the reigns to someone else to finish would probably be best case. Hell have Miguel Sapochnik direct more episodes, his were the best of the series anyone, excluding the long night, but that sounded more like D&D interference. At least at the time
mountainman
mountainman - 1/11/2024, 10:46 AM
@Evansly - Yes. The three eyed Raven had been manipulating mankind for centuries before this story began. It seems that after the Hodor thing, the show seemed to mostly forget about that subplot.

It would have been the ultimate Game of Thrones thing to have Bran/TER manipulating events just so he could take the throne at the end.

But no, we get this lame speech about Democracy and the new small council voting him in. The problem isn’t that he ended on the throne, the problem is how poorly they executed it.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 1/11/2024, 10:47 AM
@Evansly - Thats the best suggestion I have seen in a while. I for one did not really mind how it all played out. I thought it was a little too hurried, but the way things ended were fine for me, despite the fact that I would not have chose Bran as King.
TheLight
TheLight - 1/11/2024, 9:30 AM
Now these cowards finally feel free to answer to their errors.

Where were they during this?






soberchimera
soberchimera - 1/11/2024, 9:32 AM
They ran out of material to adapt because Martin was too high on international fame to finish his series, not that complicated.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 1/11/2024, 9:34 AM
The issue for me was less the broad stroke of what happens and where characters end up and more the fact they tried to wrap up the series in 13 episodes. This led to a rushed pacing and characters acting out of character just to get pieces into place. They needed at least two full seasons to finish this off right.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 1/11/2024, 9:43 AM
Still hurts to this day.

They f*cked up everything for Star Wars, something they never even got around making, the absolute state...
LilJimmy
LilJimmy - 1/11/2024, 9:49 AM
The dialogue in season 8 was so simple. A high school kid could have written it.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 1/11/2024, 9:53 AM
Season 8 was decent but i feel they really could have fleshed it out and not rushed so much...Dany's turn would have been easier to swallow had we got a few more moments of her flipping instead of them building her up as a protagonistfor 7 seasons.....same could be said for Anakin in RotS though...different universe... i know.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/11/2024, 10:01 AM
@UniqNo - "Season 8 was decent"?
Conquistador
Conquistador - 1/11/2024, 10:18 AM
@HashTagSwagg - I don't have to agree with the story choices to enjoy what's on screen. The long Night was a hell of an episode. From that parts i could actually see.lol
Whoelsebutkevin
Whoelsebutkevin - 1/11/2024, 2:58 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Yes. It's not what I imagined for final season but there's still solid episodes, there's only certain storylines that are very questionable. Yes, it was dumb seeing only our Heroes fighting on the walls of Winterfell at the end of The Long Night but at the same time seeing Theon go out like that and Arya using her skills to the max. But overall Yes season 8 sucked.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/11/2024, 10:05 AM
People who didn't recognize Daenerys Targaryen as an entitled authoritarian from early in the series were not paying attention.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 1/11/2024, 10:49 AM
@Izaizaiza - THIS!!! Rewatch it with her in mind as the eventual murderous dictator she became and it wont be such a shock for most people. I always thought she had a very dark side to her. Probably why I did not mind how her story ended.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 1/11/2024, 11:05 AM
@Izaizaiza -

CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 1/11/2024, 11:29 AM
@Izaizaiza - the problem was not her turning bad, but how sudden it was. While seeds were planted early on, that should have been a focus of the final season and it wasnt. Show a power struggle with her and jon. Seeing her fear of losing that power because she so desperately wants to see her people thrive again. Her wanting to so desperately be the breaker of chains and the wheel that she becomes part of the wheel which is what happens. But it was rushed and could have been done better. I think that is the major complaint.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/11/2024, 1:23 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - My point is that her authoritarian core was apparent from the start.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/11/2024, 10:25 AM
Just watched this show for the first time about 3 months ago and really enjoyed it until about season 5 or 6 and my god did thr quality just dip and that ending...[frick] me that was awful...

George definitely should get some shit for never finishing a series he started but after reading up on these guys essentially trying to jump ship these 2 deserve to get shit on...
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 1/11/2024, 10:35 AM
Watched this show last year. Only problem I had with the Finale was Jon Snow not being King and him not having his Wolf and Dragon at the end.



Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 1/11/2024, 10:50 AM
@BlackStar25 - Agreed.
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