How The TV Writing System Is Being 'Exploited' By Marvel

How The TV Writing System Is Being 'Exploited' By Marvel

A superhero scriptwriter has come out to explain how flawed the writing system is, in terms of how the studios completely exploit such hard-working, deserving positions of power by writers.

By JonathanDan - Jun 11, 2023 11:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel
Source: The Direct

Amid the current WGA strike, it is of course no withheld secret that fair compensation among script and screenwriters is completely unprovided to them, and the demand for substantial wages is the end goal to satisfy all writing employees. Evidently, a scriptwriter that works within the niche of superhero television has come out speaking his own witnessing of how a company such as 'Marvel' treats their writers with payment.

J. Holtham has contributed his writing competence to a number of projects; both within Marvel and DC, working on shows such as 'Supergirl', 'Cloak and Dagger', and 'Jessica Jones'. Amid his interview with Popverse, Holtham was questioned on what was the primary motivation shared by him and his colleagues to join the WGA strike, and surprisingly, it of course landed at "the studio":

For an upper-level writer, the quote is $25,000 per script. Say you’re doing ten episodes, and you’re getting $25,000 per episode: You’re getting $250,000. But since that’s not tied to a weekly paycheck [as is the case for younger writers], their pay week to week reduces and reduces and reduces. - J. Holtham, Popverse

Holtham reveals while upper-level writers compensation is seemingly more "stable", as is the case because they have worked their way up the ranks, for more younger writers attached to these shows, their employment is "flexible", with that being the more scripts they write, the lower their compensation turns out to be. Holtham went on to highlight this fact when discussing his tenure as a "staff writer" for Marvels 'Cloak and Dagger':

So when I was a staff writer on 'Cloak and Dagger,' I was on a strict 20-week contract. [Note: "Staff writer" is the lowest paid writer in a writers' room. Generally with each new season of work a young writer is promoted to another level of pay and a new title until one reaches "Executive Producer."] I got to the end of my 20 weeks, I left at the level of staff writer. I was making 4 grand a week." - J. Holtham

Coincidentally, this story seemingly turns around for the better, as Holtham then goes on to discuss his experience working as a "story-editor" for Marvels 'Jessica Jones', upon coming out of making what 'Cloak and Dagger' paid him:

I went to 'Jessica Jones,' and became a story editor there, my weekly doubled to 8 grand a week. I worked 20 weeks on that and then immediately went back to 'Cloak & Dagger' for Season 2, where I was executive story editor and did my twenty weeks." - J. Holtham

Holtham discovered while working as "story editor" for 'Jessica Jones', was the executive producers on those shows are paid lower than a lower-ranked position such as a "story editor":

"In that time the executive producers I worked for on 'Jessica Jones' were only on 'Jessica Jones' for all of that time. I made more money as a story editor than they made as EPs in that time." - J. Holtham

The fact of the matter according to Holtham is that the studio has absolutely just abused these situations of where these writers are positioned and how much they should be paid, and that causes the writers to choose not to fill out their 20 weeks in spite of it, leaving the showrunner to complete all the remaining episodes:

"Yeahhh. And since then the studios have just abused the situation even more. Now, instead of a writers’ room for 20 weeks, you’ll get a mini room for 6 or 8 weeks, then the writers leave, and if you’re the showrunner you might just be writing all the episodes yourself, covering set yourself, covering production yourself, and everything gets amortized down. It’s a real f*** you." - J. Holtham

It is disgusting how studio interference can particularly inaugurate such mass intoleration and pleading for proper compensation that is in their control, and yet they have the audacity to demand perfectly written scripts for their programs. Contractually obligated or not, it is wrong, and hopefully our fellow hard working script and screenwriters can earn exactly what they deserve.

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CoHost
CoHost - 6/11/2023, 12:12 PM
Should anyone be surprised at this? There's a reason the top dogs of Hollywood have made their disdain toward Marvel clear.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 6/11/2023, 12:24 PM
Every labor sector in America is being exploited and taken advantage of by corporations.



From the burger flipper to the screen writer. From the grocery bagger to the twitch and YouTube streamer.




Record profits but they just want more and more💁



Labor needs a major walk out protest or a bill of rights for every worker in America ❤️🖖🔥💯🤝💪
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 6/11/2023, 2:41 PM
$160,000 for less than 6 months work = strike??
JonathanDan
JonathanDan - 6/11/2023, 3:13 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Mainly the entry level staff writers who are getting scammed are the ones protesting, and the upper-level writers such as Holtham who used to be in their position are joining as well.
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 6/11/2023, 3:32 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Yeah, they just seem greedy. I feel like the writing is what has been wrong with a lot of their recent movies anyway
Madman
Madman - 6/11/2023, 5:39 PM
I think it’s important to point out that both of these were productions of the now-defunct Marvel Television. I don’t know what Marvel Studios practices are, but I have to imagine contracts are better. You gotta keep in mind all the Marvel Television shows had budgets that were like <$5m per episode vs Disney+ shows coming in around $15-25m per episode. They could maintain the same practices, but with much higher budget and lower episode count, I imagine the agreements have changed.
LSHF
LSHF - 6/11/2023, 5:42 PM
@Madman - Thanks for pointing that out. The title is misleading, which not surprising.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 6/11/2023, 5:46 PM
Yeah, this account doesn’t elicit a huge amount of sympathy…. He was making $4k a week for 20 weeks as the *lowest* paid level of writer? $80,000 for 20 weeks work? I’d take it.

I fully admit, I don’t fully follow the argument being made here, unless, as I suspect, the argument is that those 20 week shows no longer exist.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 6/11/2023, 9:09 PM
@Chewtoy -

Right! That’s only 20 weeks of work but walks away with 30k more than a lot of middle class people walk away with every year!
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 6/11/2023, 9:28 PM
@Chewtoy -


@hulkisholy-



I do not get this line of thinking.💁




How is it greedy for the writer and not the major billion dollar corporation?


The main issue here is streaming has changed the pay scale for these writers and every other entertainment player in the industry. In the old days they use to get royalty's because of commercials being played during shows but now streaming isn't doing commercials.💁



Stop shilling for major billion dollar businesses and shitting on the worker💁



Not liking the content is different from what is right.



HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 6/11/2023, 10:25 PM
@AmazingFILMporg -

Im not sticking up for the corrupt corporations but I’m also not blindly defending the writers either. I honestly don’t know enough of the nuances within the industry to accurately judge what’s fair or unfair.

All that I do know is that 20 weeks of work for 80k is good money IMO.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 6/11/2023, 11:36 PM
@HulkisHoly -


You are acting as if all writers are making that money.💁


There are different pay scales for writers.


You shouldn't have an opinion if you say you don't know the facts of the situation 💁



What blows my mind is when try to down play low wages or unjust wages to protect the billions being made by corporations.


Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 6/12/2023, 7:46 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - I’m not calling anyone greedy or saying the writers are wrong, I’m saying that I don’t follow the headline’s claim of how these writers are being exploited by what’s said here.

I don’t have any problem believing that the system is busted and that writers deserve better…. I just don’t understand this person’s specific complaint.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 6/12/2023, 7:54 AM
@Chewtoy - I'm calling most of these writers out as greedy. Most of them shouldn't be working in this industry, they are not story-tellers or have the skills or life experience to tell a simple story. Just look at the She-Hulk writing room for one example and it's clear to see those people should have never been hired.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 6/12/2023, 3:55 PM
@AmazingFILMporg -

Im allowed to have an opinion on my view of what I personally think a good amount of money made in a certain amount of time is and that’s all I did.

Calm down and take a nap, porgy
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/12/2023, 7:03 AM
So the writers of She-Hulk worked for free.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/12/2023, 7:05 AM
Don't complain too much y'all be replaced by A.I.
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