IRON FIST Season 2 Will Reportedly Have A Shorter Episode Count Than Other Marvel Shows On Netflix

IRON FIST Season 2 Will Reportedly Have A Shorter Episode Count Than Other Marvel Shows On Netflix

The first season of Iron Fist was a critical disaster but a second season is still happening. However, in what appears to be a bid to improve storytelling, the series will have a smaller episode count...

By JoshWilding - Jul 31, 2018 01:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Iron Fist
If there's one major criticism we've heard about every single one of Marvel's TV shows on Netflix, it's that thirteen episodes are often a good three episodes too many. Regardless of whether we're talking about Daredevil or Luke Cage, filler episodes have dragged stories out far too long and led to lulls in each season which could be eliminated with a shorter episode count and more concise storytelling.

Well, it appears as if Netflix has learned from past mistakes with Iron Fist because the titles of each episode have been revealed and there's only ten of them! The show's Facebook page also confirmed that it will have a shorter run in a reply to a fan who pointed out there was only ten episodes rather than the normal thirteen. Whether or not this will now be the case for every Marvel show is unclear.

It does make a lot of sense with Iron Fist, though, as Marvel and Netflix will have been able to save millions of dollars by getting rid of those three hours and that's a smart move for a show which had such a poorly received first season. What do you guys think? Check out the episode titles below - they're all named after various comic book storylines - and share your thoughts in the usual place.


"The Fury of the Iron Fist" (Marvel Premiere #19)
"The City’s Not for Burning" (Iron Fist #3)
"This Deadly Secret" (Power Man and Iron Fist #99)
"Target: Iron Fist" (Iron Fist #13)
"Heart of the Dragon" (Marvel Premiere #16)
"The Dragon Dies at Dawn" (Iron Fist #9)
"Morning of the Mindstorm" (Iron Fist #25)
"Citadel on the Edge of Vengeance" (Marvel Premiere #17)
"War Without End" (Power Man and Iron Fist #83)
"A Duel of Iron" (Iron Fist #1)
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CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 7/31/2018, 1:21 AM
They had it backwards from the beginning. The individual shows should’ve been 8-10 episodes and the Defenders should’ve been 12.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/31/2018, 1:37 AM
@CaptainAmerica - I loved "The Defenders". I enjoyed watching them interract with each other and I like the way it wrapped up some story lines. Very satisfying. Rotten Tomatoes gives it at least 75% from the critics and the non-critics. I'm looking forward to watching it again when it finally arrives on Blu-ray (which will probably have to be ordered from Amazon UK or another import, as that is the only way many official Blu-ray releases of the Marvel Netflix shows can be purchased now).

I even have to order the more recent seasons of "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." from Amazon UK. Odd.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 7/31/2018, 5:47 AM
Archgoat
Archgoat - 7/31/2018, 1:25 AM
Great news, every single Marvel Netflix show has suffered from filler episodes.
Demba
Demba - 7/31/2018, 1:27 AM
I'm very excited for Iron Fist season 2. From what I'm hearing around the place, it sounds like the fight choreography is going to be so much better than the first, and Dannys appearance in Luke Cage season 2 was fantastic! He was so much more enjoyable to watch, and it made me keen for more. H
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/31/2018, 1:28 AM
Fewer episodes don't mean tighter episodes. What matters is the writing and production. Ten episodes can feel like twenty if they're poor. If they want to experiment with the episode order, that's fine, but it's not some magic bullet.
Snowbirdd
Snowbirdd - 7/31/2018, 1:30 AM
Cutting episode number doesn't equal better show.








That being said I hope this new season improves from the last.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/31/2018, 1:31 AM
"The first season of Iron Fist was a critical disaster..."

75% of the audience liked it, and that is a LOT more people than the critics who have serious issues enjoying movies and films (they are too critical, and that tends to make things less fun, and the show was made to enjoy, not critique).

Anyway, most of the audience liked it. F the critics. They get paid to criticize.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/31/2018, 1:39 AM
@LSHF - Generally speaking, criticism is a good thing. It's the stress test of culture.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 7/31/2018, 3:55 AM
@LSHF - ...Did you just criticize...the critics...for free?
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 7/31/2018, 5:18 AM
@LSHF -

Half the critics hated the first season just because Danny was a white male.

MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 7/31/2018, 5:19 AM
@Spock0Clock -

Half the critics hated the first season just because Danny was a white male.
LSHF
LSHF - 8/8/2018, 3:00 PM
@EskimoJ - I guess I did. I feel "so" good about it! I would do that for free any day of of the week!
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 7/31/2018, 1:45 AM
I would be fine even with one episode as long as that episode is great. [frick] quantity, quality matters
WeaponXCII
WeaponXCII - 7/31/2018, 3:22 AM
sixthsense
sixthsense - 7/31/2018, 4:09 AM
it won't help cause it still looks like crap
JohnnyTBP
JohnnyTBP - 7/31/2018, 4:58 AM
i’ve always said the shows needed to be 10 episodes than 13
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 7/31/2018, 5:04 AM
Boo. A shorter season doesn’t magically make the show better. But at least we are getting another season and it does indeed look awesome.
LordHarryLatts
LordHarryLatts - 7/31/2018, 5:25 AM
If your main character is the least interesting person on the show...I'd fix that problem first. Then I'd put him in the suit, so a person who actually knows kung-fu can do the fight scenes...considering that we're watching an Iron Fist show.
Philvis
Philvis - 7/31/2018, 6:09 AM
Good. I really liked Iron Fist, but I think all these Marvel shows need to be capped at 10 episodes. I've noticed that most of them start dragging. I think 10 is the perfect number. Now, if only CW would do the same with their shows. Cut the episode count in half because most episodes are filler and just drag on too long.
crawley
crawley - 7/31/2018, 6:33 AM
I think the episode count is fine, but the show runners should split the season into 2 distinct plots with an overarching theme.

All comics nowadays are written in 5-6 issue graphic novel sized stories and it works great. They should always be looking to the comics for different kinds of inspiration.
TheApostrophe
TheApostrophe - 7/31/2018, 7:15 AM
Good! I don't care too much about watching filler episodes, but I think the creative challenge to make a tighter story will help the overall viewing experience. Like when AOS benefited from shifting to a two-story-arc season instead of spreading one out over the whole thing
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 7/31/2018, 7:31 AM
Good. Even 13 episodes seems drawn out for some of these shows.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 7/31/2018, 8:14 AM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - yeah I think this can only help them out. A lot of people here are misinformed and dont realize that.

The only shows that I feel can handle 13 episodes are Daredevil, Punisher, and season 2 of Luke Cage.
String
String - 7/31/2018, 8:17 AM
I don't believe Iron Fist getting a shorter 2nd season has anything to do with the quality of the 1st season. It has to do with Netflix getting its Marvel release schedule back on track. The Defenders mini-series threw all the other shows out of whack. Before Netflix throws Daredevil season 3 to audiences they needed Jessica Jones, Luke Cage & Iron Fist to get second seasons first. And since the next seasons of Daredevil & Iron Fist began production roughly the same time -Iron Fist was the logical choice to go shorter.

I don't believe Netflix is changing their stragedy of 13 episodes per Marvel series looking at how long the upcoming Daredevil & Punisher seasons have been in production.
brodie999
brodie999 - 8/1/2018, 3:24 PM
@String - Agreed. But I doubt Iron Fist S2 having 10 episodes would be final. Some episode counts always get changed before some episodes even start filming. So I think Iron Fist S2 will have 13 episodes in the end just like Supernatural S14, Arrow S7, The Flash S5, Supergirl S4, Black Lightning S2 and Legends of Tomorrow S4 will have 23 and 19 episodes respectively once the CW finalises their plans.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/31/2018, 2:00 PM
I guess that's for the better. One of my problems with Luke Cage is that it is too slow and too long
Geowolf
Geowolf - 8/1/2018, 4:36 AM
I am happy with 10 episodes (if it was to try to correct some schedule or not). This might improve the storytelling pace allot.
I also felt that JJ season2, DD season 2 and Luke Cage Season 2 was dragging here and there, so a 10 episode season for others might work as well. Only DD season 1 and Punisher S1 are perfect pacing in my eyes. ;)
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