SHE-HULK Star Tatiana Maslany Calls Out Disney's Bob Iger For Recent Strike Comments

@SuperCat -

@WhatIfRickJames - Indeed!

@grif - I genuinely don't get her mindset. Her show is one of the reasons Iger decided to move away from streaming shows for the mcu.

@Origame - This isn't about whether you liked her show or if you thought it was good or not. It's about the fact that people in positions like Iger's shouldn't be profiting to the extent that they are off of other people's work - hundreds of people work on each show or movie Disney and other studios put out, and every person who actually worked on those projects deserves to be compensated fairly.

As far as the leading actors, directors, producers etc who are making millions per project are concerned? Yeah, it's not really about them. It's about the writers, crew members, bit-part actors and extras who are barely making enough to support themselves while the execs like Iger continue to profit massively from their work.

@Origame - 1) Ok, allow me to rephrase that point - it doesn't matter if ANYONE liked it; people worked on it, therefore they deserve to be paid. Again, this isn't about Tatiana Maslaney, assuming she gets the same kind of money most lead actors do - it's about everyone on that set who isn't earning the big bucks. She even alludes to that in her statement when she mentioned wealth not being shared with "crew, cast and writers"

2) As CEO yeah he gets to make decisions, but beside that what ACTUAL work is he doing on each production? And as for high risk - so if a project doesn't work out the billionaire CEO doesn't make as much money? Cry me a river.

3) You mention commission and that's part of what is being protested, as those agreements (royalties very much comes under the banner of "commission") haven't been updated to reflect the changes streaming services have made in how audiences consume media, meaning people who worked on projects get far lower residual payments than before. An example of this is that it's pretty much the reason Christopher Nolan left WB, because the majority of his pay is based on box office takings for his movies and WB decided to put Tenet on HBO Max at the same time as it went into cinemas meaning it obviously impacted the box office takings. I'm sure you've also seen Sean Gunn's recent comments about how Netflix have paid him no royalties for Gilmore Girls and yet their execs have been getting million dollar bonuses since they added the show to the platform - and again, I'd imagine Sean is doing fairly well either way but my concern is for those whose careers may not have had as much success. This isn't just a Disney issue, this is every major studio, Tatiana Maslaney is simply talking about the stuff she's witnessed firsthand. You mentioned RDJ but again, it's not about him, it's not about the stars making millions either way, it's about everyone else on the set who isn't earning anywhere near that - put simply, if the people doing the bulk of the work on set can't afford to keep working in those jobs, the productions stop because no one's left to work on them, and then people like Iger don't have anyone making products for them to profit off of anymore. The fact of the matter is this all boils down to corporate greed.

4) It's funny you mention the independent film market, because A24 agreed to the WGA and SAG terms almost immediately despite having no where near as much money or resources as the major studios that are still holding out. If a small studio like that can agree to the terms and view them as fair and reasonable, multibillion dollar corporations have no excuse.

@Origame - I'm not fixated on everyone getting paid equally, there's a huge difference between the notion of people getting paid fairly and communism.

@Origame - Why are you so fixated on Communism? Who are you, Joseph McCarthy? I'm a pretty left-leaning guy but I'm also enough of a realist to know that communism doesn't work because that's not how human nature works.

And I'm not saying Iger shouldn't make more as the head of the company - I'm saying when the difference is as big as it is, especially considering how the business model works, then that imbalance needs to be addressed and changes in the model need to be acknowledged. Again, without the hundreds of people making movies and TV shows for the studios, the CEOs and other execs don't have a job. And it's relevant because that's where the money is going and that's why there's been so much push back; sure, some of it is being invested back into other projects but more than enough of it is going towards execs giving each other huge bonuses. Again, using Disney as an example, Bob Chapek took $20mil in bonuses in 2022, and Bob Iger is reportedly getting $27mil this year - that's despite the fact SAG and the WGA are striking AND the fact that Disney stocks have been on a downward trend since 2021 and are currently at the lowest they've been in almost a decade (not including one very brief blip at the start of the pandemic)

But yeah you keep jumping to these extreme conclusions that make very little sense to the discussion we were having, harping on about communism and stuff even though you're the only one bringing it up, so let me just repeat - I'm not disputing the fact that a CEO should be the top paid person in a company. My issue is when someone in an executive position is worth hundreds of millions, if not billions, and continues to make additional millions in bonuses year on year, while many of their workers (again, not talking about actors earning good money, I'm talking about everyone else) are struggling to make ends meet, and then those executives make comments that the unions choosing to strike is "disturbing" despite the fact that much smaller companies have already agreed to the terms set forth. It's not about everyone being paid the exact same, it's about making the pay gap a bit smaller so the already rich guys at the top aren't earning quite as much on top of that they already have, while the guys at the bottom who are struggling are able to live a little more comfortably. And as far as studio execs go, I've always thought Iger is one of the better ones, but his recent comments have been pretty out of touch.

Anyway, that's all I'm saying. And I'm not even getting into the AI debate which is a whole other can of worms.

@Origame - 1) No, you're the one bringing up communism like some obsessed weirdo, I keep explaining the difference and somehow you're still not comprehending it.

2) No, suggesting a slightly smaller wealth gap isn't communism, as you yourself explained earlier, communism means everyone earns the same, try sticking to your own rules - or better yet, just stop arguing altogether, you're pretty bad at it.

3) I know Iger wasn't CEO in 2021, which is why I mentioned Chapek at the start of that exact sentence, try reading the points being made before trying to argue against them.

4) I understand that you're incapable of a rational and respectful debate and have to resort to randomly throwing around terms I'm not sure you even fully understand in order to try and win an argument on the internet. I've explained it already plenty of times, and I've also explained it's an ideology I don't believe in; if you're incapable of understanding that at this point then that's your problem, not mine.

@Origame - 1/2/4) Actually, in simple terms: under communism everyone earns the exact same wage as dictated by the state, and the state also owns all property meaning there is no private ownership by citizens, oftentimes there's also a lack of democracy to ensure continuity of leadership to maintain the status quo and free speech is often eroded in order to prevent anyone talking negatively about the regime. VERY different to workers getting a pay rise.

That's why your insistence that I'm communist is utter nonsense - by the exact same logic, I could reiterate by claiming that you're a fascist, but I'm not because that would be stupid, just as you throwing around the word "communist" is stupid. People talk about politics as if it's a spectrum but I think it's actually more like a wheel - go too far one way or the other and you tend to meet in the middle at some interchangeable form of Totalitarianism, whether it's Communism (extreme left) or Fascism (extreme right)

"At what point is [the pay gap] acceptable?" That's down to them to negotiate, that's also why I haven't been going too deep into the numbers, because ultimately it's down to the people who are ACTUALLY involved to come to an agreement to terms that they deem fair on both sides.

3) Ah yes, the CEO position is very risky when you make bad decisions for two years. Do you actually understand the things you're saying? In your own words, he did his job badly for two years and made millions. Well done for backing me up!

Anyways, hopefully I've taught you a bit about communism and made it a bit clearer how I'm not a communist to anyone who is capable of rational thought - but no doubt you'll reply explaining to me how I'm somehow still a communist anyway because you simply can't grasp the difference between communism and just thinking people earning lower incomes deserve a better standard of living. So yeah, I'm out, have fun incessantly defending major corporations and incredibly wealthy people I'd assume you've got nothing in common with and almost certainly never will 😊

@AC1 - also, I didn't say you were communist. Just that what you were proposing was communism.

@Origame - Same here dude, but as the article you posted states, communism about taking power away from the ruling class and giving it to the workers - as in completely, so eventually everyone has exactly the same amount (it mentions a progressive tax system but that seems to be a transitional idea that would eventually lead to everyone getting the same). That's not what I was suggesting, I'm literally just saying workers deserve a pay rise even if it means the top dogs earn slightly fewer millions; I'm not suggesting CEOs like Bob Iger should be completely stripped of their wealth so that it can be redistributed to the workers, I'm just saying that the strikes seem to be based around a pretty fair set of terms, and whatever ends up being agreed is between the unions and the studios.

@SuperCat - She was f**king phenomenal in Orphan Black. The way she makes each clone completely their own character makes you forget that they're all played by her and then when one or more clones are interacting with each other she takes it to a whole new level. She's a seriously underutilized actor I think.