SPOILERS: Should The MCU Extend AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR's Unexpected Team-Up Concept?

SPOILERS: Should The MCU Extend AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR's Unexpected Team-Up Concept?

Back in the '70s, Marvel's freshened up their comic line with a new title called Marvel Team-Up and the MCU appears to be channeling its spirit as evidenced in Homecoming, Ragnarok and Infinity War.

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By MarkJulian - Apr 28, 2018 08:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Infinity War
Is the MCU inadvertently channeling the spirit of the old Marvel Team-Up comic books from the '70s?  With Iron Man and Spidey teaming up in Homecoming and Hulk and Thor battling with and against one another in Thor: Ragnarok, it sure seems that way.

That trend continues with all the oddball pairings presented in Avengers: Infinity War and it looks as if there just might be a pattern emerging.  Although, the group in Infinity War definitely take on a more "oil-and-water" analogue versus the shared similarities of the science-based partnership in Homecoming and the muscle-inclined coupling of the Odinson and Green Goliath. 

Watching Infinity War's mismatch pairings of Iron Man & Star-Lord and the Hulk and Black Panther generated pre-release buzz never before seen in the MCU - a feat that's considerably impressive given all that the cinematic universe has accomplished in the last 10 years.  With the success of Homecoming and Ragnarok, and the box office dollars all but guaranteed for Infinity War, perhaps team-ups will become more of a staple in Phase 4? If that's the case, we've got a few suggestions...

10. Hulk and Doctor Strange


There have been a lot of arguments made that a solo Hulk film just won't work and there have been two attempts that certainly provide evidence, though neither has featured a Bruce Banner played by Mark Ruffalo. Even if Marvel worked out the character's pesky distribution complications, would they be willing to roll the dice?

If they choose to play it safe, another team-up film just might be a perfect option and the Sorcerer Supreme would present a different sort of ally/antagonist for the Hulk to face.  Is the character truly so strong that there's nothing he can't physically overpower?  Or could someone like Strange or Chiwetel Ejiofor's Baron Mordo effortlessly teleport him to another dimension and leave him trapped? 

A team-up between the two would also be a big step towards a cinematic formation of the original Defenders team from the comics which consisted of Hulk, Strange, Namor and Silver Surfer.  With a second season of the Netflix miniseries unlikely (per Krysten Ritter) and the Fox-Marvel merger expected to pass with no complications, a Defenders movie is a lot closer to happening than it ever was before. 

09. War Machine and Valkyrie


Let's be honest, this isn't the "sexiest" of possible pairings for either of these characters but their similarities and differences would actually create some rather interesting storytelling material.  Both characters come from a military background but where one is rigid, the other fell off the wagon and lived that way for centuries. 

Perhaps someone like Valkyrie is exactly who Rhodey needs to meet in order to learn how to loosen up?  He's another MCU supporting character that could stand a bit more character development and a romantic relationship would certainly be an interesting development.

08. Captain America and Drax


Drax might be the one MCU character more rigid and forthright than the Sentinel of Liberty.  The storytelling constraints of such a team-up between the two would see Cap forced into the role of comedian to Drax's straight man. There's also very little comic book history between the two characters, freeing up the MCU's creative team to take the oddball duo in any direction they wish. 

How would Captain America fair in the over-the-top, quippy, space opera tone of the Guardian films? Likewise, how would the writers keep Drax from turning into a ruthless killer in the more dramatic setting of the Captain America movies?  Where these two questions intersect would result in cinematic gold.

07. Loki and Scarlet Witch


In every MCU appearance by Loki, his motivations and actions have been explicitly tied to whatever the latest calamity troubling his brother happens to be. At this stage of the game, Loki's become a bit stale and predictable, a notion that Taika Waititi touched on in Ragnarok.  By the film's end, there was definitely a shift in the character's moral compass and allegiance.   With Asgard destroyed and Loki obviously forced to make some hard choices aboard the fleeing refugee ship, it's time to see what the trickster can become when he's no longer lusting after the Asgardian throne.

On the other side of the pairing is Scarlet Witch, a character that hasn't had any standout moments that explicitly define her personality.  MCU fans know who Tony Stark and Captain America are but can they say the same for Wanda Maximoff?

Of course, Infinity War leaves the fate of both of these characters hanging in the balance.  Given the amount of loss in the film's final moments, it's difficult to say who will be returning and who just appeared in their final MCU film.

06. Thor and Spider-Man


If Spider-Man is being positioned as the future face of the MCU, it would certainly make sense for him to receive team-up films with the current Big Three of Cap, Thor and Iron Man.  A pairing with Cap should be saved for last, leaving the Odinson to take up mentorship of the young Peter Parker next after Stark. 

After having your planet destroyed, most of the populace killed by your maniacal older sister and even more citizens perishing at the hands of Thanos and the Black Order, one has to question what Thor's mental state will be when he actually has time to process everything.  Perhaps keeping the inquisitive Parker out of trouble would be the perfect assignment to keep Thor from sinking into depression?

05. Iron Man and Rocket Raccoon


There's been a lot of debate in the MCU about whether Shuri is truly smarter than Tony Stark but there's an argument to be made that Rocket Raccoon might actually be smarter than both.  The fact that he deals with technology light years ahead of what's currently available on Earth (even at Stark Industries and in Wakanda), gives the furry Guardian an edge in the smarts department. 

The two have actually had some pretty hilarious run-ins on the Disney XD animated show and in the comics, with Rocket routinely talking down to Stark.  However, there's also the argument that given equal resources and time, Tony would likely create something much more impressive than Rocket.  In the 10 years of the MCU, Robert Downey Jr. has pretty much explored everything there's to do with the character, except for a jaunt into space, as was previously rumored. Such a journey would certainly lead to a fresh new perspective for Stark while also creating the opportunity for someone back on Earth (like Shuri) to fill his role as the world's leading tech expert.

04. Shuri and Black Widow


Ryan Coogler's Black Panther demonstrated that not only does Shuri have great intelligence, she also has the training and strength of will to hold of Killmonger (at least for a few minutes).  However, she could probably learn a thing or two from Black Widow, considering all the "red in her ledger." 

It's not hand-to-hand combat skills Shuri needs to learn but the ability to make tough calls.
Picking up such skills from the Red Room operative turned S.H.I.E.L.D. spy would go a long way towards reaching a point where Shuri is capable of assuming the mantle of the Black Panther.

03. Black Panther and Hawkeye


Black Panther and Hawkeye had a fairly memorable exchange during Captain America: Civil War and it would be interesting to see whether Barton's pride was hurt after getting dismissed and easily thrashed. 

The African king and special ops agent with a secret family are about as different as two men could be.  One prefers to tackle problems head-on while the other uses misdirection and trickery (sometimes literally trick arrows) to take down opponents.  If S.H.I.E.L.D. is resurrected in the MCU, Hawkeye could very well find himself assigned the role of Wakanda liaison. 

Though T'Challa's fate is in the wind after the events of Infinity War, there's no way Marvel won't bring him back by the conclusion of Avengers 4.

02. Star-Lord and Captain Marvel


Before the film's release, Marvel fans around the world wondered if Captain Marvel was in Avengers: Infinity War or if she would meet the other heroes in Avengers 4? Without going too heavy into spoilers, the answer is yes and no.

The characters Kree origins means she can't stay Earthbound forever, and a team-up with Star-Lord would be the perfect opportunity to head off into space.  Plus, with the solo Captain Marvel film set in the '80s, depending on what Danvers has been up to in the last few decades, it's possible the to might share a love for that period's pop culture that none of the other Avengers would share.

01. Vision and Ant-Man


This is about as different as you can get.  The serious, stoic nature of the Vision and the wacky, carefree attitude of Scott Lang that's only rivaled in the MCU by Peter Quill.  Of course, Ant-Man was completely absent in Infinity War and the Vision seemed to have met his end.

However, there were enough hints that the Vision could be brought back as his mind was a merging of Stark, Banner, Ultron and the Mind Stone.  Whether Vision can survive without the Stone is a plot thread that the Russos will definitely answer in the next Avengers film.

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Invasion96
Invasion96 - 4/28/2018, 8:56 AM
Man...how does Marvel expect me to give a shit about Ant-Man and the Wasp after this
Invasion96
Invasion96 - 4/28/2018, 8:57 AM
About to go see it again
bobevanz
bobevanz - 4/28/2018, 8:59 AM
Lets beat Avatar!!!!!!
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/28/2018, 9:02 AM
I would like to see a team-up between Mordo and Doctor Strange, the audience knows Mordos intentions are impure, but Strange is unaware OR aware and has to team-up with Mordo to defeat a larger threat.

As for future team-ups;

- Black Panther & Spider-man, could work especially well if Kraven is the villain and Black Panther would only be able to help partially because of the accords or diplomatic reasons.

- Black Widow & Winter Soldier, would not work for a prequel given the events of Winter Soldier, but could work well for a sequel given the history between the two. They have not particularly had a chance to talk much on-screen.

- Iron Man & Rocket, should definitely happen given it could provide a bit of levity and some humourous scenarios. They'd play well off each other and could be the basis for a potential 'Illuminati' style team-up if they add Bruce, Doctor Strange and maybe Shuri
GreenEgssandHam
GreenEgssandHam - 4/28/2018, 9:41 AM
@Scarilian -

Here are some of my thoughts.


IW2 Ponders and Theories
We now know to what lengths or at least some of them, which Marvel and the Russo brothers had went to and had tried to make viewers and fan boys/girls believe what appeared to come in the movie, via trailers, comic con video and bts images, without spoiling some of what was really going to take place. They have certainly learned a thing or two from the God of Mischief himself. Some of those scenes may yet still take place in some shape or form in the second movie, but it is safe to say that we all now agree that the battle charge in Wakanda with Hulk was a clear and clever deed of trickery. With that being said, it is safe to assume that in the Infinity War sequel we will also see more crafty and devious antics that Loki would smile upon.
So without further ado here are some potential theories and directions I have pondered about.
1) Gamora: She died but she will come back. Her death was a trade for the soul stone. After IW II, if the Soul Stone is returned she may come back to life. “What If” the Red Skull has now escaped to freedom after the IW events and "The deadliest woman in the Universe" Gamora has now become the new protector of the Soul Stone?
2) Vision: Welp, many of us saw something terrible coming the way of Vision. Not as many recalled the White incarnation of Vision though and since given the jargon of that “there is more of us in Vision than just the stone”, Vision comes back via Wakanda tech. Maybe not the pale off whites we are used to but maybe he comes back as a pastel green, red and yellow. I can even see him gain a new gem or something of the like for his forehead. Just not an Infinity Stone.
3) Captain America: Chris Evans hanging up the shield has been long rumored and talked about. But at this cinematic point, his two successors are now dead, Bucky and Falcon. So if Cap is going to sail into the sunset for some years, the question is, does he need to die or can he walk away? It seems safe to assume one of the two, Bucky or Falcon will be brought back to life. My guess, Captain America dies. Also it was nice to see that Cap could muster the force to stop Thanos from clinching the gauntlets fist near the end, did the stones sense something?
3) Black Panther: With T’Challa dead, I am stuck at a fork in the road, will Okoye dawn the suit for revenge or will it be Shuri to be the avenger who carries the Black Panther mantle? Maybe Okoye and she falls, leaving Shuri to be the last of the inner circle and forcing her to dawn the newest Black Panther suit she could construct?
4) Thor: Thor is riding high on resurgence of late and for him to die now would be a deep and sad regret. Also half of Asgard is still alive. Thor should be the one to properly rebuild Asgard for the foreseeable time. But what if Loki or Beta Ray are to step in and replace Thor and rebuild Asgard. Even worse, Jane Foster picks up Stormbreaker. But my bet is on Beta Ray Bill. Stormbreaker is his weapon and in Thor 3 he was a Gamemaster champion and his face was on the main building. Valkyrie is probably a shoe in, she is most likely with the remaing half of Asgardians that survived. Thoughts?
5) Rocket Raccoon: With the current GotG decimated and with Rocket Raccoon being the only one left, maybe he recruits the GotG new guard, which shows up for the climactic battle with Thanos. Once the IW II battle is resolved, will the old resurrected GotG (Groot, Drax, etc.) merge with the new team or will Starlord, Gamora, Drax, Mantis and Groot remain dead?
6) Hulk: The Incredible Hulk finally shows up, but is the Hulk no longer going to be under powered, and he can finally showcase his real power, or maybe the Bruce Banner moment inside the Hulkbuster suit is the real telltale sign, when Banner tells a stage freight Hulk that they are going to have to have a serious discussion later. Does this mean a prelude to the Gray Hulk? Banner brains and Hulk power?
7) Nova Corp: If Xander is truly destroyed, planet and all, maybe it will take the next wielder of the Infinity Stones to create the True Nova Corp as the comic book fans know them as. Maybe the base will be in the decimated Knowhere? Bring me Richard Rider.
8) Will Nebula steal the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos like the comic book version, will Nebula die as many suspect in IW II and will Adam Warlock show up like in the comic books. If Nebula gets the gauntlet will she resurrect her sister, even if it means she has to sacrifice herself? Or will Nebula go sideways and Adam leads the team to take her down and Warlock comes up with the gauntlet? My bet Nebula will not forget about her sister.
9) Stan Lee: Okay, follow me for this one, The MCU is making a huge promotion of the fact that 10 Years and 18 Movies later have led to this moment. Yep, them 10 years and 18 films have led to Stan Lees ultimate cameo and his final revelation as The Living Tribunal or better yet the One-Above-All. At this caliber, you could sit down on any planet in any galaxy and have a chat with whatever intellectual life is around Watchers or Celestials.
10) Tony: The MCU, it begins with Tony, here it ends with Tony. Many thought the old guard of Avengers would be the ones suffering casualties’ in IW, but to many a surprise it was the new generation of Avengers and the Guardians who lost the most. Tony Stark was one of the old guard expected to die. Heck, even go to Google and type in “Infinity War to” and you will see “Infinity War Tony Stark Death”. Granted it is not the first auto search result to show now since the debut (it was the first one on Thursday early morning), but it is still there and that gives insight into a fair bit of people’s searches and predictions.
Nonetheless, Tony dies in IW II, Downey finally hangs up the jersey. Tony goes out on top. With all the talk in IW about “a one man sacrifice for many to live”, and then too have this theme repeated over again. Followed by the continued counter argument that, “you can’t sacrifice yourself, we can still win this”, this is ultimately how Tony can finally once and for all break his image.
Through his MCU years he had developed progressively in areas such as personal growth, understanding and actual caring. He no longer is the playboy, though he still had liked to hold that title for a bit. But the more and more we had seen of him, maturity continued to set in and that personal trait had linked with his growing sense of responsibility. He had evolved to the point of wanting to start a family with Pepper. He had been dreaming about having children and asked her if that is something she may have given thought too.
Now combine these events together with Tony who had shown a father like mentor desire for Harley Keener in IM3 (the little blond boy), but this father figure and genuine concern rose highly with Peter Parker. With a mature Tony Stark who sees himself as a paternal figure for a young fatherless Peter Parker. In Civil War, Homecoming and in IW we had seen a progressive build in contact, giving Peter gifts (of protection) and monitoring his whereabouts. We had even seen Tony swoop in to save/help Peter while telling him go home, keep a low key, he is not ready yet. But then in IW Tony has to watch Peter’s spider sense pick up the danger, plea for his life and slowly reach for Tony’s protection before he dies.
Tony will sacrifice his life to stop Thanos and bring back Peter and the others who fell. Whether it is a Thanos – Tony both die sacrifice or after a defeated Thanos, Tony has to give into the Soul Stone demands of a sacrifice to overturn events. This is the high note.
So, what if this is not to be and the Russo’s throw us a curve ball here?
One know one thing though, they are going to need some more help, and I don’t think Captain Marvel will be enough.

Thor: Join us. Join Earth's mightiest heroes.
Mantis: Like Kevin Bacon?
GreenEgssandHam
GreenEgssandHam - 4/28/2018, 9:56 AM
@TheGoatKing -

Also they are going to need more cosmic help than earthlings. It will be nice to see who or what Captain Marvel brings along.

And Kevin Feige said Tony Stark is like James Bond, the character remains, new actors fill his shoes. I think Stark, Rogers and Thanos go to a Cancerverse realm and we don't see them for a couple of MCU phases or so, 10+ years.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/28/2018, 11:24 AM
@TheGoatKing -
Some interesting thoughts, will try and summarise a response to them. Forgive me if i miss aspects;

1) The idea of Gamora returning as some sort of Guardian for the Soul Stone is a pretty brilliant solution of having the character return without a true 'resurrection'. Perhaps she can still move about the cosmos, but is effectively a vessel for the Soul Stone. Definitely feel they should take this route with the character.

2) Vision returning in some form is also something i expect will happen. Like with Ultron downloading his conciousness, Shuri coudl have been partially downloading Vision's mind while trying to seperate him from the Mind Stone. I expect he'll basically return and just have lost his memory and experiences. As Tony said, Vision is evolving, so perhaps he'd just be reverted back to his Age Of Ultron state and have to rebuild his relationship with Wanda.

3) I dont think the death of T'challa will be permanent. Personally i see Okoye being forced to sacrifice herself with Shuri potentially taking up the mantle of Black Panther or ruler of Wakanda in the meantime.

4) Thor will eventually take up the mantle of Odin, perhaps he's formed an Asgard somewhere in the meantime with the help of Stormbreaker. Valkyrie i think could work as a temporary replacement, but i would prefer Beta Ray Bill to take up the mantle - the issue is the character is CGI intensive and i doubt we'd get a solo movie focused solely on him. His backstory is also a bit convoluted and difficult to adapt.

5) I would not be suprised if he forms a new team just for the sake of A4 - probably Rocket, Nebula, Thor and Valkyrie. Nova is most likely going to show up for GotG3, especially if Xandar remains destroyed. I expect the GotG3 team to be; Starlord, Gamora, Drax, Nebula, Groot, Mantis and Nova.

6) I expect Bruce has now proven himself as 'not puny' in the eyes of Hulk, so Hulk will eventually return and allow more of the Bruce Banner personality to seep through - potentially a 'Gray Hulk' scenario but without the third personality - instead a sort of merge when he's hulk?

7) I think Richard Rider will be one of the survivors of Xandar and form his own corp, taking up the name Nova. Given we have not seen the destruction of Xandar they are probably saving that for a flashback or backstory for Nova.

8) I dont think Adam Warlock will show up in A4, as his goal is to beat the Guardians of the Galaxy and they have all (except for Rocket) being snapped. Nebula could potentially take the Gauntlet from Thanos in sort of a spy mission alongside Ant-Man and a few others. I dont think getting the Gauntlet will be the goal, instead altering the past somehow may be the focus.

9) I'd like him to be the 'one-above-all' however i think it would be awkward to see him meeting Thanos or others directly if he maintains the Stan Lee form. Maybe as a spiritual being inside one of Thanos's soul stone related visions. I think if the 'one-above-all' appeared then the manifestation of light would work well, and the movie could end with it being revealed that Stan Lee is the 'one-above-all' seeing the being of light turn into Stan Lee as a final cameo would be perfect.

10) Tony i definitely feel is gone at the end of A4, i think an ending similar to when Starlord and Nova ended up trapping Thanos could work well. I'm not sure if it'd work best with Iron Man & Captain America OR Iron Man & Starlord, but i think it needs to happen. A dual sacrifice of the main heroes. Then we'd see a massive funeral for him and the other fallen heroes at the end of Avengers 4.

"Thor: Join us. Join Earth's mightiest heroes.
Mantis: Like Kevin Bacon?"

Would be hilarious if they cast Kevin Bacon as Adam Warlock or something and had him appear in A4 xD
manofillintent1
manofillintent1 - 4/28/2018, 9:02 AM
I kinda feel everyone who died in in this one will be back and everyone who survived will be permanently dead by the next
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/28/2018, 9:09 AM
@manofillintent1 -
Most likely, at least in regards to the heroes. Would be surpised if that extended to all the humans who survived. Trading one half of humanity for the other would be a pretty ballsy move.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/28/2018, 9:11 AM
Just realised that would probably mean the death of Ant-Man... so maybe it's an 'optional sacrifice' sort of thing.

Universe has to be balanced, but some can sacrifice themselves for others.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 4/28/2018, 5:05 PM
@manofillintent1 - I see Cap and Iron Man dying. I see the rest going off to "retire". Thor will either be King to Asgardia or join GOTG.
TBobshandlebar
TBobshandlebar - 4/29/2018, 8:01 AM
@manofillintent1 - or, the people that appeared to survive are the ones that actually perished and in an alternate reality? Such a twist!
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 4/28/2018, 9:02 AM
As great as the team ups were, I was equally surprised by the connections that DIDN'T occur. Thor and Hulk never met Spidey. Strange and Banner interacted but Hulk was never present. Cap gets a moment with Groot that is gold, but never even talks to another Guardian. Vision and Strange never interact even though they would hit it off instantly. Widow and Gamora may never meet. Rocket and Tony never meet. Drax and Hulk, Wanda and Strange, the list goes on.

I'm so in love with this movie
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 4/28/2018, 9:09 AM
I think a lot of these movies announced are smoke blown, not saying those dead characters won't comeback. I just mean I think going forward we'll get a lot more team ups movies.

Side note: when bp put his hand out to Okoye am I the only one kept hearing Keenan thompson voice from the black jeopardy skit when he said "Uh oh T'Challa"? It wasn't funny when I saw it but thinking back it made it hilarious
IndominusTitan
IndominusTitan - 4/28/2018, 9:10 AM
Loki needs to stay dead.
Luigi
Luigi - 4/28/2018, 9:13 AM
After IW, I hope Hawkeye is in Ant Man and the Wasp (I'm sure he'll at least cameo). Spider-Man/Hulk team up would be nice too
PantherKing
PantherKing - 4/28/2018, 9:14 AM
I really thought Valkyrie was going to show face.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/28/2018, 9:14 AM
@PantherKing - she, and Korg and Miek, will likely show up in A4
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