AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And SECRET WARS Rumors Reveal New Team Leaders, A Big "Reunion," And Secondary Villains

New Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars rumours reveal new details about Marvel Studios' plans for the movies, including who will lead the main team, Doom's dynamic with Reed Richards, and more.

By JoshWilding - Oct 08, 2024 11:10 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

While the Multiverse Saga has been undeniably hit-or-miss, there's still plenty of excitement surrounding Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars.

Sure, neither movie will be what was originally planned - we're getting Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom in place of Jonathan Majors as Kang, for starters - but that doesn't mean the Russo Brothers won't deliver a fitting end to this Saga.

According to The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez, the plan is for both movies to feature secondary villains replacing the Council of Kangs (it's said original plans called for different teams of heroes to battle the likes of Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, and Immortus). The site doesn't know for sure who they'll be and suggests we might see a Multiversal Masters of Evil.

Perez adds that the Multiverse will still exist once this Saga ends and reiterates that we're only getting a "soft reboot" after Avengers: Secret Wars.

He also likens Reed Richards and Doctor Doom's dynamic in the upcoming Avengers movies to Tony Stark and Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. Talking of exciting meetings, it seems Thor and Sylvie will soon share the screen as well.

Captain Marvel is described as "one of the main characters in [Avengers: Doomsday]," with Perez adding that "She will be one of the leading Avengers in these movies." As for Sam Wilson/Captain America, he's set to "co-lead the team."

Other Avengers-related intel includes Marvel Studios' plan to "use Hugh Jackman [as Wolverine] for as long as possible." There's also the claim that while we'll see Ant-Man in these movies, Namor is currently "TBD."

Perez concludes by saying this about 2025's MCU releases: "I’m very excited because it will feature some of the most important storylines that will set up the groundwork for Doomsday and Secret Wars."

Marvel Studios is bound to have some huge plans for these movies and, while the clock is ticking on laying the groundwork for them, there's really no need to be concerned. After all, before Avengers: Infinity War, we'd only seen a few minutes of Thanos on screen and yet he remains one of the MCU's best big bads.

Still, even with Doom sure to be a compelling threat, we're still hoping Kang's disappearance will be addressed in some way because Loki and Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania set him up as a massive threat.

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027. Stay tuned for updates.

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cubrn - 10/8/2024, 11:37 AM

Oh look, a non-Joker article

RegularPoochie - 10/8/2024, 2:10 PM

@cubrn - well there isn't anything else going on and these are coming up everywhere and not only here after the backlash it got.

harryba11zack - 10/8/2024, 11:37 AM

mountainman - 10/8/2024, 11:39 AM

Captain Marvel and Sam being the leads is expected but disappointing. Never having to see the Power Ranger villain looking Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, and Immortus ever again is a win at least.

JFerguson - 10/8/2024, 11:43 AM

@mountainman - Power Ranger level acting too. That’s right I said it. Johnathan Majors acting was over praised and overrated at time of release. Well he can take his Shakespearean stutter elsewhere

SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 11:48 AM

@mountainman - Who else could it possibly be? You'll note it specifically says Doomsday, so no cap return, no iron man, Thor is off world (and isn't a leader), Hulk isn't a leader, Strange is DEFINITELY not a leader and is off world/universe. Spider-man very well could be the heart that ends up pulling a team together, but he wouldn't be believable as a leader of the group.

I know you said it's expected, I'm just trying to address the disappointing and see who you think would be a better leader that's currently on Earth.

Vigor - 10/8/2024, 11:49 AM

@mountainman - who do you want to be the lead

TheWinkler - 10/8/2024, 12:01 PM

@mountainman - I have a feeling that while they'll lead The Avengers, the priority is gonna be putting focus on Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire, and other legacy characters. I would not doubt if Snipe's Blade made a return after the positive reaction to his DP&W appearance.

YouCray04 - 10/8/2024, 12:23 PM

@Vigor - Off the top of my head: Mr Fantastic. With heavy support from Dr Strange. Thor, Hulk, The Thing, and Warmachine should be the tanks, and pretty much everyone else should be doing ground-level support, maybe with Sam taking charge but with Spiderman, Shang Chi, and Daredevil doing most of the work. Maybe Spiderman can train with Shang Chi or Daredevil and gain the confidence to take on a leadership role for Secret Wars. In an ideal world Captain Marvel will be killed off at the start to demonstrate Doom's power (the Worf Effect). Not including any Fox/legacy characters because I'm not sure if they will appear in Doomsday or just Secret Wars. And yes I know this is an Avengers movie not a FF movie but the last 2 Avengers movies featured the Guardians of the Galaxy in major roles, and it doesn't make much sense to have Dr Doom as the big bad without his archenemy as the big hero.

ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 12:47 PM

@mountainman - Remember white men can lead, but women and black men can only co-lead.

mountainman - 10/8/2024, 12:48 PM

@ObserverIO - Weren’t Steve and Tony also co-leads?

ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 1:00 PM

@mountainman - I don't know if I'd call Tony the co-leader. Benefactor, brains of the operation, sure. I'd even go so far as to call him the anchor being of the whole MCU. But no, Steve was the leader. He was the Captain, everyone looked to him.

Nick wasn't even sure if he wanted Tony on the team at first. He just wanted him there in an advisory capacity. A consultant.

mountainman - 10/8/2024, 1:14 PM

@ObserverIO - This brings to mind another interesting question about this new Avengers team - Who bankrolls it?

The only character that seems to have access to large pools of money is Shuri.

ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 1:44 PM

@mountainman - Blackrock.

mountainman - 10/8/2024, 2:00 PM

@ObserverIO - No that will be the US government backed Thunderbolts. Black Rock is much more interested in secret ops versus a group that actually helps people.

captainireland - 10/8/2024, 2:08 PM

@mountainman - maybe Pepper will continue to bankroll the team to honour Tony's legacy. Rhodey and Peter still have strong links to her too. She could always suit back up as Rescue too.

ItsNotForMeWahh - 10/8/2024, 11:40 AM

And when they finally get the upper hand and win it will be revealed that that Doom was a Doombot

ProfessorWhy - 10/8/2024, 11:51 AM

@ItsNotForMeWahh - that would actually be forking great

ItsNotForMeWahh - 10/8/2024, 11:55 AM

@ProfessorWhy - Oh for sure! I'd want to see it where teams are fighting multiple only to find out all are fake.

RegularPoochie - 10/8/2024, 2:12 PM

@ItsNotForMeWahh - that is actually fricking brilliant!

Vigor - 10/8/2024, 11:41 AM

I'm fine with multiple villains. That's what made battleworld entertaining. Doom being the head villain with Kang still a threat and perhaps one other earthly (or otherworldly like Alioth, galactus, dormammu, or Mephisto) would keep things fresh and different from Infinity war/endgame

Just please keep Kang in the mix. He was made for time shenanigans plots. He's an iconic villain and there's no better time to do him

SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 11:44 AM

@Vigor - I'm telling you, and other users said it here too, Doom's "oh shit" introduction is going to be directly following up Ant-Man and him decimating the council of Kangs in seconds

TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 11:44 AM

@Vigor - agreed

Fine if they aren’t doing the original plan but I hope the Kang variants or even himself play a role.

TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 11:45 AM

@SATW42 - I could see that being the case

Immediately established him as a threat.

cubrn - 10/8/2024, 12:16 PM

@Vigor - I don’t understand why Jonathan Majors can’t continue playing him. Like far more people have done way worse things and continued on in their careers

TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 12:58 PM

@cubrn - I can understand why since he was convicted but even then , the variant concept gave them the perfect reason to recast.

cubrn - 10/8/2024, 1:03 PM

@TheVisionary25 - crazy how a 34 time felon/racist can be neck and neck in the presidential race but a guy can’t play dress up anymore because he had a messy breakup with his girlfriend that got slightly mutually violent.

cubrn - 10/8/2024, 1:04 PM

@cubrn - rapist not racist but hey racist works too

TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 1:14 PM

@cubrn - yep

Strange times we live in.

Ryguy88 - 10/8/2024, 1:18 PM

@cubrn - 34 counts of mislablellng a file and never came close to be convicted of raping anyone...but hey, you're showing exsctly why so many are going to vote for him because of gaslighting like this.

cubrn - 10/8/2024, 1:29 PM

@Ryguy88 - I think her multimillion dollar settlement says otherwise

SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 11:42 AM

"There's also the claim that while we'll see Ant-Man in these movies, Namor is currently "TBD."

Why is this a connected thought? Is there a connection I'm missing/forgetting?

Songoty - 10/8/2024, 11:43 AM

@SATW42 - Ant Man and Fish Man

JFerguson - 10/8/2024, 11:46 AM

@SATW42 - the human body is made up of 60% water weight. Water which is of course Namors domain.

Meanwhile ant man is rumored to enter the same human body in a way that could defeat Dr Doom

Vigor - 10/8/2024, 11:51 AM

@Songoty - lol

ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 12:49 PM

@SATW42 - Ants drink water.

Urubrodi - 10/8/2024, 11:44 AM

More Captain Marvel... they don't learn

ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 12:53 PM

@Urubrodi - Hey if the movie flops it won't be because of Captain Marvel it'll be because the movie's bad.

I gotcha, lol, no it'll be because of Captain Marvel. I agree.

HashTagSwagg - 10/8/2024, 11:46 AM

They finally give her the team and she's a co-pilot.......now that's an Ouchi.

SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 11:53 AM

@HashTagSwagg - my off the cuff assumption is that Captain Marvel is going to assembling the off world help while Sam is taking care of things on Earth.

I always felt of Tony and Steve as co-leaders. Tony ran things and was the money man and had the buildings, Steve kept them a team.

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