RESULTS: Should The MCU Be Rebooted After AVENGERS: SECRET WARS? Here's What You, CBM's Readers, Decided

RESULTS: Should The MCU Be Rebooted After AVENGERS: SECRET WARS? Here's What You, CBM's Readers, Decided

With rumours swirling that Marvel Studios plans to reboot the MCU after Avengers: Secret Wars, we recently asked you, ComicBookMovie.com's readers, to decide if it's a good idea. Now, we have the results!

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By JoshWilding - Sep 01, 2023 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

When the Infinity Saga ended, we bid farewell to a number of beloved characters and actors, including Black Widow and Iron Man. Since then, the Multiverse Saga has shifted the franchise's focus to introducing legacy heroes who can keep the mantles, and the MCU, going. 

The likes of Sam Wilson, Ironheart, Yelena Belova, and She-Hulk have all taken centre stage during the past couple of Phases, no great surprise after Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige previously said they would never recast roles by taking a James Bond-style approach to characters.

However, with the Multiverse Saga set to culminate with Avengers: Secret Wars, there's already a great deal of discussion surrounding what should come next. 

One recent rumour claimed the plan is for that movie to create another Sacred Timeline, effectively rebooting the MCU and ushering in a new era of storytelling. It could mean we actually get to see Steve Rogers and Tony Stark meet the X-Men and Fantastic Four, albeit with new actors in the roles. 

Last month, we asked you to cast your votes on whether Marvel Studios should reboot the MCU after the 2027 movie - which may or may not be split into two parts - arrives in theaters. 

A resounding 56.76% of you decided "Yes," with 27.65% going for "No," and 15.59% of you understandably deciding to remain on the fence for the time being by voting "Maybe..."

We're obviously not expecting Marvel Studios to take note of this but it may be telling that the vast majority of this site's users are ready to see the MCU start over. By that point, it will have been nearly two decades since Iron Man was released, so a fresh start isn't necessarily the worst idea. 

Nothing is confirmed for now, of course, but with so much talk of "superhero fatigue," perhaps we need a new "I am Iron Man" moment to usher in whatever comes next. Introducing a certain team of mutants to the world could do the trick...

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ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/1/2023, 12:07 PM
They should reboot and dead the multiverse idea

And for those of you who don’t understand object permanence and fictional writing - you can still enjoy movies shows etc even they aren’t tied into some bigger corporate entity
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 9/1/2023, 12:12 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -

I’ve said before that the reboot should keep some things the same so there are still takes (Rogers old, Stark dead, etc) but they should use the opportunity to make mutants a larger part of the population and remove unnecessary characters that should have never been introduced during phase4-5. THEN they have have a clean narrative moving forward towards Galactus but have Magneto be a key player rather than Doom perhaps. Just spitballin
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 9/1/2023, 12:12 PM
@HulkisHoly -

*stakes
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/1/2023, 12:18 PM
@HulkisHoly - I agree , give yourself a proper universe that yoh didn’t have to fly by night put together
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/1/2023, 12:23 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -
They have certainly jumped the shark. It's way to complex, to the point of taking away from the enjoyment of a simple story. Reset the Sacred Timeline and make everything go away and start fresh with X-Men and FF.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/1/2023, 12:28 PM
@HulkisHoly - See, I absolutely think they need to bring back Stark and Steve as part of the reboot.

It's a perfect opportunity to do it while also recasting them. That way, even if they are different and not Chris Evans or RDJ, there's an in-story reason for it and it's not just some recast where they are expected to play the same characters Evans and RDJ did. Same with Black Panther.

To me, this is highly important because no Marvel Universe feels right without them. And I really need to see the classic Avengers interacting with the F4 and mutants.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 9/1/2023, 12:52 PM
@CorndogBurglar -


I see your point but I think recasts will lead to endless comparisons between actors and not let the new ones shine on their own. I could be wrong.
What’s definitely important is that even if the new Avengers has a different roster…it COULD work IF they actually build up the core team. The problem is they haven’t been doing that, or at least not clearly. Perhaps they want Spider-Man, Strange, Shang Chi, Shuri, Kate Bishop, or Iron Heart or white vision. Or do they want She-Hulk and Moon Knight? Or Namor and TChalla’s son? Oh and don’t forget the three Marvel girls! And the NEW Cap!

My point is that there are too many characters being focused on and none of them seem like they are leading anywhere. It’s all disjointed.

Whoops I forgot the Antman characters as well. Didn’t even watch that one.

They need to go back to what works. 4-5 movies that set up these new characters so the audience has time to fall in love with them and their stories and then put them together to form the New Avengers.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/1/2023, 1:42 PM
@HulkisHoly - just gotta bite the bullet and go for it
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/1/2023, 1:55 PM
@HulkisHoly - Yeah, that's why I think bringing in alternate universe versions of these characters is a good way to help stem the comparisons to Evans and RDJ. Sure, people will always say Evans and RDJ were better. But if those people actually watch these movies then they should realize that the new versions aren't the same characters that Evans and RDJ played. They are different versions from alternate realities.

But I totally agree with everything else you said.

A rebooted MCU should still include all of the past events of the MCU. The Infinity Saga still happened, as an example. But they need to streamline their films.

Captain America
Iron Man
Spider-Man
Hulk
Avengers
Fantastic Four
X-Men

Then if they want to keep doing D+ shows they can stick to other characters that people actually care about.

Daredevil
Punisher
Moon Knight

And that's it.

All these other characters they keep making shows and movies about that are side characters at best needs to stop. Keep them as side characters. That's what they are.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 9/1/2023, 2:10 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -

MARVEL:Tower of Babel

written by:

Bryan K. Vaughn

Michael J. Stracynski

Johnathan Hickman

Art:

Andy Kubert

Leniel Francis Yu

Jim Lee


This is the story that introduces the Galictic Illuminati.


They are comprised of

The Beyonder
The Watcher
Galactus
Memphisto
Thanos with Infinity Gems
Cosmic Bishop


These men are put in a counsel by the One Above All to destroy all gates which bind pathways to the multiverse.


Once all gates are destroyed, each entity will return to their perspective worlds and seal their paths.

krayzeman
krayzeman - 9/1/2023, 2:32 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - the multiverse idea IS the reboot. say what you will about it being unweldy at this point I think the brought that concept in as a "break the glass just in case" model as a way for starting over in another universe with different actors(because they do age) in case things go to shit.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/1/2023, 2:56 PM
@krayzeman - don’t buy for the simple fact of they haven’t bothered even introducing that emergency option universe yet, if they reboot it’ll be most likely using the whole 1 character collapses the multiverse and rebuilds the entire universe
krayzeman
krayzeman - 9/1/2023, 4:32 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Thats what im saying. Its an "if all else fails." The MCU may be at a down period right not but its not at the point of a DC disaster. They are setting themselves up though if it gets to that point. IMO after Secret Wars they should leave all the other characters alone and just concentrate on the X-Men in a whole separate universe. There's enough characters in X-Men alone that can sustain a big franchise with spinoffs. Side note: What we're asking the MCU to do in the movies and shows cant be sustain just like in the comics because you're dealing with real actors that get old. Things have to change. There will eventually be another actors that play Steve Roger and Tony Stark simply because thats just how it eventually has to be.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/1/2023, 12:09 PM
Whatever happens, we still got the Infinity Saga and all its adjacent shows like AoS and Daredevil. Nothing’s topping that era of CBM goodness, and I’m fine with it.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/1/2023, 12:33 PM
@PlusUltra - There could still be individual movies and shows that top it, but it seems unlikely we will get a 10-year period that could ever top the Infinity Saga.

It wasn’t perfect. But it was special and a huge cultural milestone.
Kadara
Kadara - 9/1/2023, 12:39 PM
@PlusUltra - Truly the golden era of comic book movies, I was actually rushing to check out each entry on opening nights lol!
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/1/2023, 3:00 PM
@PlusUltra - frfr. They didn't know how prophetic "Endgame" would turn out to be.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 9/1/2023, 12:18 PM
I don't really care if they reboot or not. I'm moe concerned that the MCU and CBM's in general have totally lost their steam.

I don't give a shit about Captain Marvel or Thunderbolts. I just want to see mostly accurate versions of the X-Men and FF, but as time goes on, I think that's less and less likely.

Marvel has totally lost my interest since Phase 4, and there's nothing upcoming that has me very excited either. I think the quality of the writing has declined considerably and the newer characters just aren't the relatable or interesting imo.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/1/2023, 12:19 PM
@Feralwookiee - they tried too much , it’s like they were scrolling Reddit and decided let’s adapt every fan theory at once
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 9/1/2023, 12:27 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - It's the same problem that Disney "Star Wars" has; TOO MUCH "CONTENT".

They keep flooding and oversaturating the market with these shitty tv shows. There's so much "content" out there that it ceases to be special imo.

We're are literally at the point where Marvel and Star Wars films are no longer "event" movies.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/1/2023, 1:43 PM
@Feralwookiee - which was the stated plan if you remember they said post endgame they wanted all movies to be events not just the avengers but damn if they didn’t overshoot that like a mf
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 9/1/2023, 1:50 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Agreed.
I'm just not a tv watcher to begin with. I just can commit to watching all these episodes. I can do a big event or solo movie once or twice a year, but following dozens and dozens of episodes...I lose interest fast and I don't have that much time to put into it.
JDL
JDL - 9/1/2023, 9:33 PM
@Feralwookiee - That implies they've over-satuated the comics side since at lest the the late 60's.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/1/2023, 12:20 PM
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 9/1/2023, 12:22 PM
I think the dead characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther and Black Widow should be recast post Secret Wars. I don't think there needs to be a full on reboot
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 9/1/2023, 12:23 PM
@comicfan100 - Yes, I know Steve isn't dead, but you get my meaning.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 9/1/2023, 12:32 PM
@comicfan100 - But haven't they all essentially been recast already?

Ironheart has replaced Tony.
Sam has replaced Steve.
Shuri has replaced T'Challa.

I'm not thrilled with any of those replacements as I think the new characters are far less interesting when compared to the originals, but it is what it is.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 9/1/2023, 12:44 PM
@Feralwookiee - Kinda, but not really. I like those characters, but they can all coexist like they do in the comics.
JonC
JonC - 9/1/2023, 1:43 PM
@comicfan100 - they wrote in a perfectly good reason for a new Natasha to appear in a universe in What If... why can't we do that with other heroes?
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 9/1/2023, 12:23 PM
Justification for this poll
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/1/2023, 12:24 PM
MCU doesn't have the same draw it did when the core Avengers were still around. I don't see how they keep the steam going after such a huge storyline that would be a good way to give some of the OG cast like Stark and Rogers a great sendoff for good.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/1/2023, 12:25 PM
I don't really mind what they do, as they lomg as they get rid of the multiverse. All these different worlds just can't interest me. A few MCU-adjecent universes are fun (like Loki) but the majority just feels like a gimmick without substance
theFUZZ008
theFUZZ008 - 9/1/2023, 12:27 PM
PUT IT IN A CHART.
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