Ryan Coogler Shares How AQUAMAN Affected Namor And BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER

Ryan Coogler Shares How AQUAMAN Affected Namor And BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever director Ryan Coogler discusses Jason Momoa and DC's Aquaman and how it influenced Wakanda Forever and Namor's big-screen debut!

By NateBest - Nov 15, 2022 12:11 PM EST
Source: Uproxx

Historically speaking, DC Comics' popular legacy characters were published before Marvel's in the comic books. Some examples include Superman, which was published in 1938, several years before Iron Man was published in 1963; Batman hit shelves in 1939 before Moon Knight's 1975 debut, and the list goes on...

With Namor being one of the few Marvel Comics characters to have appeared first, the fact that he is only just now making his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut as part of Ryan Coogler's Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is a bit surprising.

Namor, who is also known as the Sub-Mariner, made his comic book debut in 1939, while DC's Aquaman appeared two years later in 1941. Of course, this is not the case when it comes to the movies as DC was able to beat Marvel to the punch when it came to the world of aquatic superhero films when it released Aquaman in 2018 with Jason Momoa in the starring role. In addition, Aquaman is still one of DC's most successful movies according to Box Office Mojo, with the film generating more than one billion dollars worldwide, and its sequel set to land in theaters next year.

With both characters sharing many things in common, how did Ryan Coogler differentiate Namor from DC's Aquaman? Coogler just happned to open up dring a recent interview with Uproxx on this very topic. Coogler shared that he and the crew of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever went to great measures to guarantee that there would be no confusion between Namor, who has been hailed as the original comic book antihero, and his DC rival.

"I do think that having Aquaman out in the world, in film language, and being successful in the marketplace, I think it was a great bit of indirect guidance for us to lean into the things that made Namor different from Aquaman. Just out of respect to the audience because a lot of people saw that movie. A lot of people love that movie. It was our task to, obviously, put our heads down and blinders on and make our movie, but also have a sense of awareness of what the marketplace might want to respond to, and might be interested in."

The director then went on to add: "I think giving people something different, if you can give somebody something good, that’s also unique, I think it’s always better. We wanted to lean into the things that make those two characters different from each other because they have a lot of other similarities in publishing."

During the interview, Coogler also opened up about some of the things that they decided to highlight from the comics to ensure that the charactder wasn't seen simply as Marvel's version of Aquaman.

For us, it was like, Yo, you got to wear the green trunks. He’s got to have his winged ankles. He’s got to be relatively arrogant. He has to be long-lived. He’s got to be a child of two worlds, not really fitting into either one. He has to be very confident and very dangerous. In the comics, Namor can always back up what he’s saying.

Have you seen Black Panther: Wakanda Forever? Did Coogler and crew succeed in their attempt to make Namor his own iconic character? Sound off in the comments area below!

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AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/15/2022, 12:21 PM
Namor was awesome. Cooler is a class act💪❤️💥🔥♥️💯
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 11/15/2022, 12:31 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - Ryan Coogler is definitely the next Jon Favreau in terms of versatility with Disney/Star Wars/Marvel. The guy gets it and definitely puts his heart and soul into each project he is working on. You can tell he makes movies to tell the stories and he understands the audience.
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 11/15/2022, 12:50 PM
@SonOfAGif - I personally think he’s overrated, in many ways. The only film of his that I’ve really liked was Creed.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 11/15/2022, 12:21 PM
It was obvious since day 1, nice to see Coogler admiting it...unlike the fans.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 11/15/2022, 1:29 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - I don't think anyone was denying it
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 11/15/2022, 1:42 PM
@Spidey91 - Most MCU fans were doing it when the first pics came out, and people pointed at how the inspiration was obvious.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 11/15/2022, 12:24 PM
Blastaar
Blastaar - 11/15/2022, 2:05 PM
@VictorAlonzo - Yeah, we won't get to see this now unfortunately because of them not recasting T'Challa.
Deonox
Deonox - 11/15/2022, 10:18 PM
@Blastaar - Did you not see the movie? We're definitely going to see this now
Blastaar
Blastaar - 11/16/2022, 7:48 AM
@Deonox - Yeah, I'm not willing to wait 15-20 years for T'Challa Jr to get old enough to fight Namor, no thanks.
MochaKing
MochaKing - 11/16/2022, 1:00 PM
@Blastaar - Oh my, life is hard... But do not take your life casually. You need to find interesting aspects in life and try to live more than 15-20 years.... That will help you to see beauty of life around you and some movie which features Teenage T'Challa fighting Namor...


Blastaar
Blastaar - 11/16/2022, 1:27 PM
@MochaKing - How old is Tenoch Huerta.....?

41 years old...

STOP IT.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 11/15/2022, 12:26 PM
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 11/15/2022, 12:32 PM
The underwater scenes were better in Wakanda Forever, the VFX in Aquaman was rough at times underwater.
BB8ANG
BB8ANG - 11/15/2022, 2:05 PM
@HeavyMetal4Life - I think Aquaman's technique of not filming underwater worked better. I could tell the extras during the Talocan tour were all holding their breath's. Didn't feel natural.
Steel86
Steel86 - 11/15/2022, 3:18 PM
@BB8ANG - Yeah I totally agree. After I saw one holding their breath then I unintentionally started to look to see if anyone else was.
TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 11/15/2022, 12:33 PM
He gave me what I wanted, something different from Aquaman.

During the film my GF did lean over and whisper that they're copying Aquaman and I had to let her know who came... first.👀💦..no matter how much I love DC and she loves Jason mamoa I couldn't let that slide
leethario
leethario - 11/15/2022, 12:39 PM
@ClungesForever - surely ex-girlfriend after that?
TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 11/15/2022, 12:42 PM
@leethario - which part? The marvel copying or Jason mamoa?......bitch has been breakdancing on incredibly thin ice for years 😂😭
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/15/2022, 1:13 PM
@ClungesForever - lmao
Blastaar
Blastaar - 11/15/2022, 2:07 PM
@ClungesForever - Too many innuendos here my guy.
dragon316
dragon316 - 11/15/2022, 4:31 PM
@ClungesForever - yeah but Deathstroke came first people think dc copy marvel Deadpool for her not being comic fan like us here it’s easy confusion
dragon316
dragon316 - 11/15/2022, 4:33 PM
@dragon316 - it mostly depends who’s more popular comes down to it Deathstroke came first in comics but Deadpool is more popular who’s more popular namor or aqua man?

Have ask new fans that question aqua man have more comic appearances and own series namor hard to say with fans of dc and marvel together
TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 11/15/2022, 4:54 PM
@dragon316 - yep you're right. She doesn't keep up with the comics, it even hard to get her to keep up with movies at times.
MochaKing
MochaKing - 11/16/2022, 1:08 PM
@dragon316 - True Deathstroke is overshadowed by Deadpool which was created as a parody to Deathstroke. DS was more serious guy with typical man for hire attitude... DP is something that connected to Comic book readers, gamers and movie goers more effectively with his own characteristics. Hence, though they are same they can't be compared.

Same with Aquaman and Namor. Aquaman is more heroic and Namor not so heroic. Both have similarities here and there but both cannot be compared. Only interesting fact about Namor is he did not end up being butt of jokes for many years like Aquaman..
PatientXero
PatientXero - 11/15/2022, 12:36 PM
The Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel thing is hilarious!!! Captain Marvel was a man. Not influenced by Wonder Woman.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/15/2022, 1:21 PM
@PatientXero - Yeah, this part was weird. Technically he was comparing popular legacy characters, not necessarily similar characters. But then he compared Batman and Moon Knight's debuts, and they are undoubtedly similar.

But he also compared Superman's debut to Iron Man's. Which is odd. And Wonder Woman to Captain Marvel. Neither of those examples are similar at all.

Marvel's Superman would surely be Hyperion. And Marvel doesn't really have a Wonder Woman. And it certainly wouldn't be Captain Marvel considering he was a male, alien from outer space, and shared no similarities with Wonder Woman.
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