Is The BLACK PANTHER Film Really Important To The Marvel Cinematic Universe?

Is The BLACK PANTHER Film Really Important To The Marvel Cinematic Universe?

Fans have been wanting a Black Panther film for ages and now we are finally getting one! There's a release date, concept art, and the King of Wakanda has been cast! Marvel isn't making this film just to please us fans though right? Hit the jump to check out my concerns!

Editorial Opinion
By TChalla - Mar 12, 2015 06:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Black Panther


     So it's really been bugging me right?

*sigh*

     In October, all was good! Marvel surprised the world when they announced their Phase 3 line up! It consisted of new franchises such as Captain Marvel, The Inhumans, and my personal favorite, Black Panther!



     Life was great I was finally gonna get my fil- ... Black Panther was finally gonna get his film! Then he happened...



Spider-Man joined the MCU... Mother-[frick]er.

I mean it was awesome! I have to admit, I was overjoyed! Then that wall crawling menace did something... He interfered with the King of Wakanda. He pushed back the release date for my movie! When I found that out...



Black Panther was originally set to release in the Winter of 2017, fresh after seeing him in Captain America: Civil War! Now it seems as though that all changed. Now, SPIDER-MAN may have taken that pivotal role that Black Panther had in Captain America 3! Why do I think that? Well now Spider-Man is gonna appear in Civil War and we're getting a SPIDER-MAN film the NEXT YEAR! While Black Panther's film is gonna be released right after Avengers: Infinity War Part 1!



You know... It just made me ask myself. "Is the Black Panther film really important to the Marvel Cinematic Universe?" Now here me out, the way Phase 3 was set up, Kevin Feige said that, "something I already showed you today contains an Easter egg that leads directly into Black Panther. He’s a bit of a prince, he may even become a bit of a king, but it’s all about how this isolationist country meets the world. Maybe it goes well, maybe it doesn't." That sounds like whatever happened in Civil War was gonna go straight into the Black Panther film! Then at that, the film was gonna take us RIGHT into Infinity War!



What is the film gonna be about now?!? Is it gonna be a prequel type film?? Is the film gonna be a more standalone movie like Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy?? I mean... we don't even really know what the film was gonna be about in the first place and... we don't know what goes on at the Marvel HQ and all...



Uh... and if Marvel had announced the current Phase 3 slate back in October... this article would be pointless...



Well! I guess we just have to wait and see right? Haha! Ha...

This is T’Challa, King of Wakanda, reporting courtesy of the Wakandan News Network via Comicbookmovie.com! Sound off below!


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DeusExSponge
DeusExSponge - 3/12/2015, 7:33 AM
Agreed, the return of Marvel's prodigal son screwed over the King of Wakanda and along with half of Phase 3!
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 7:39 AM
Some people want a black Spiderman because "diversity", these same people did not get pissed off with Black Panther getting pushed to side like he's got lepresy.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that got really annoyed.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/12/2015, 7:39 AM
Don't agree. I touched on this before, a bunch of times, and I will once more. The Sony hacked revealed that Marvel wanted this deal to go down well before the phase 3 announcement(which Spidey being part of the MCU was supposed to revealed then, had the deal went down), and we know Marvel was planning a Black Panther film early within Phase 2. So one thing, Black Panther was more than likely always meant to be part of Phase 3(his role in CW probably didn't exist, until Marvel lost some hope of Spidey swinging in to town). Another thing, since Marvel had plans for Spidey in the MCU, before revealing the phase 3 line-up, they likely adjusted their phase 3 line-up the way they always meant for it to be, had they acquired Spidey before October 2014. This means, Spidey likely didn't disrupt Black Panther's film by pushing it back, but that it just re-adjusted back the way Feige wanted and that the BP film is not just fan service. Just to add, they have a draft of CW without Spidey's inclusion and one with his inclusion, so they'll probably play it smart and merge the best parts of them, allowing both Spidey and BP to have a prominent roles.
StaticShock86
StaticShock86 - 3/12/2015, 7:42 AM
I feel you on this one, I remembered when Fiege said that they had it planned until 2027 or something. But now they change their whole Phase 3 line up for Spiderman. Even though everything was already map out for Infinity Wars. I feel your grief, it also makes me ask how important all the movies are leading up to A:IW. Because I'm pretty sure that Spiderman will have nothing to with the overall story arc.

I must be the only one not really excited at all about him being back. I feel like Spiderman/Sony will [frick]ed everything up that has been planned for almost a decade.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 7:46 AM
@RextheKing
"This means, Spidey likely didn't disrupt Black Panther's film by pushing it back"

But that's exactly what it did.

"but that it just re-adjusted back the way Feige wanted."

That's just a bunch of assumptions, I don't care what they talk about at the office.
What matters is what they officially announce and they funked up on that point.
TChalla
TChalla - 3/12/2015, 7:48 AM
@RextheKing

"Just to add, they have a draft of CW without Spidey's inclusion and one with his inclusion, so they'll probably play it smart and merge the best parts of them, allowing both Spidey and BP to have a prominent roles."
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 3/12/2015, 7:53 AM
4 editorials within 24 hours @TChalla ?
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/12/2015, 7:54 AM
@SoFresh "That is just a bunch of assumptions"

So is saying that they shifted all of phase 3 just for Spidey. The difference between me and those people is that I'm thinking logically and not emotionally. I took what I know pertaining to BP, phase 3, the Sony hack, and the Spidey deal before I decided to comment. I'm looking at the whole picture while others are looking at, Spidey came in, phase 3 shifted *go insane*.

"But that's exactly what it did"

Again looking at what we know about the Spidey deal, it's likely that it's not. If Spidey was meant to be a part of phase 3 well before it was announced, it makes sense that they had a line-up of phase 3 with his inclusion. What I'm saying is that the adjusted phase 3 line-up could be that line-up.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/12/2015, 7:59 AM
@TChalla While I don't agree, this shows that you're passionate about Black Panther, which I respect a lot.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 3/12/2015, 7:59 AM
I'm curious about the content of these Black Panther movies as well (one in the theoretical November slot, and the new one the next year). I think it's really possible that a lot of the Panther's movie was going to be "Avengers-related", and that some of that is being incorporated into Spider-Man's movie.

It may work out just fine. Marvel flies by the seat of their pants on the shared universe stuff, and sometimes that works out great. And sometimes you get an Iron Man 2...
TChalla
TChalla - 3/12/2015, 7:59 AM
@LEVITIKUZ Count again! FIVE editorials in the last 24 hours! ;)
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:01 AM
@RextheKing
It's not an assumption, when they announced Spidey was coming to the MCU they also announce the would be pushing BP and Ms.Marvel back.

This not long after their date announcements.

I know you're excited for Spidey in the MCU but there's no need to make excuses for BP having been shafted.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:03 AM
@AlexanderLykins
I don't know, you tell us since you've watched his movie.
I'd assume so since he's a king that holds many powerful riches.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/12/2015, 8:03 AM
Oh and by the way, I'm not completely shooting down the idea that Spidey came in and took over the show, because what I said is just assumptions, but I based them around what we know, so I'm very confident that I'm right(on most of the aspects at least).
TChalla
TChalla - 3/12/2015, 8:03 AM
@RexTheKing It says it all in my username! Haha, thanks tho! :D
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 3/12/2015, 8:05 AM
@TChalla

5?!
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:06 AM
@AlexanderLykins
I don't care about what Marvel cares, it'd be nice for fans to see a black characters that isn't a token or sidekick black in a Marvel movie.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/12/2015, 8:07 AM
@SoFresh You are not getting it. Yes, when the Spidey deal finally went down, they adjusted the phase 3 line-up, but did they push those films back, or put them back where they wanted them to be had they acquired Spidey before announcing the phase 3 line-up(is the current line-up actually the original line-up)? Using what we know, it's a fair assumption to make that it's the latter.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:11 AM
@RextheKing
I know it was probably the latter, I just don't care about that as an excuse.
Don't you think they throw all kinds of ideas around?

Only some things come out and are officially announced.
And they messed up on that point.
TChalla
TChalla - 3/12/2015, 8:15 AM
@0megaDaGod Thems the breaks huh?

How bout I break my foot off in yo ass!



xD

I'm joking. I understand what you mean tho. I'm just hoping we get a good Black Panther flick.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/12/2015, 8:15 AM
@SoFresh I can feel yah there, but in Marvel's defense, they probably lost all hope of Sony allowing them to use Spidey, so they went ahead and announced phase 3 without him.
TChalla
TChalla - 3/12/2015, 8:23 AM
Hey guys like I said at the end of the article "If Marvel had announced the current Phase 3 slate back in October... this article would be pointless"
kinghulk
kinghulk - 3/12/2015, 8:28 AM
yeah i was pissed off with spidey being back resulting in the other marvel films being pushed back, especially that everything but infinity wars was pushed back. regarding what they should do with spidey without stealing BP spotlight i would do this http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/kinghulk/news/?a=115255

i really dont like that inhumans now takes place outside of infity war and bp now takes the pot in the middle of the 2 infinity war films. for me BP is a good choice to replace cap as the leader of the avengers for a while then captain marvel/ dr strange could fill the role of tony (as a important member and like 2nd in charge at least in my mind)
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:28 AM
@0megaDaGod

Take Feiges balls off your mouth for a second and listen.

In my opinion they messed up.
I'm not as interested about the MCU anymore, the one character I've been asking for since IM1 was BP.

Maybe you'd prefer for me to go massage Feiges back along with you and not say that I'm really disappointed.
TChalla
TChalla - 3/12/2015, 8:30 AM
@0megaDaGod I think Paul George had 'em like that lol
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:30 AM
@RextheKing

Don't misunderstand me brother, I understand why they did it.

I just feel heartbroken that a brother had to take a backseat.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 8:57 AM
@0megaDaGod
"If you're gonna ask someone to listen - especially in such a juvenile and immature way"

This by the same person that starts with a personal attack to a comment that wasn't directed at him...
"Your lack of logic is astounding. If I hadn't seen your other post I'd be pretty concerned right now"

Does Feiges bathroom not have any mirrors? :(

"If your entire rationale is based on your poorly developed, explained and processed 'opinion' then you're just reinforcing my previous comment."
"Ah, assessing whether or not a logically sound decision with no downside is a 'mess up' based on how it makes you feel?"

Obviously this isn't going to affected them financially, nothing will affect Marvel at the moment.
So yes, I do base it on how it makes me feel, why shouldn't I?
I'm passionate about the character and as you can see in this article so are other people.
So as I said before, they messed up.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 9:24 AM
@0megaDaGod

"You should really drop this thing, whatever it is. It displays a lack of debate skills and shows you're more immature (and probably biased) than I'm assuming you actually are"

Did I expose your relationship with Feige? :(


"I see where I'm getting confused. When you say 'mess up' I'm assuming you're trying to use it correctly - as in the objective context - where you're assessing whether or not they made the right decision. I should've realized you're intentionally misusing those words"

Why can't my feelings factor into my opinion?
I totally understand why they took the decision they took and I understand that you would say that my feelings that they messed up count for nothing and that I'm full of crap.

That doesn't change the fact that in MY eyes they messed up, messed up as in messed up my visions of what their universe should be.
Obviously Marvel have their opinion of what it should be and you(and your bf Feige) have yours.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 3/12/2015, 9:44 AM
@0megaDaGod

"No, I've never met Kevin Feige. All you've done is reinforce my point"

I hope you're counter trolling me and you weren't taking me seriously.

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"I never said they couldn't, I said they couldn't factor into you objective assessment of their decision. That's kinda been the entire basis of everything I've said to you today. By your logic, they didn't mess up, they messed you up"


Meeeeh, semantics.
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 3/12/2015, 10:12 AM
Hey you're back with these.

*reads full editorial*

Let me answer that 'question' with a question..is another Spider-Man film really important to the MCU?

By the way, loved your use of the happening gif
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