Why a separate DC Cinematic Universe and TV Universe(s) is a good thing

Why a separate DC Cinematic Universe and TV Universe(s) is a good thing

My heart breaks a little everytime I see someone call WB's latest effort a "waste of time" because it's not connected to Man of Steel and Batman Vs. Superman.. here's why!

Editorial Opinion
By batcheeks8 - Mar 03, 2014 10:03 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics

Shared universes are all the hype nowadays. After Marvel pioneered the idea with extremely profitable results and upping the level again with Agents of Shield, studios everywhere are scrambling to make the most out of a property they own the rights to by tying it all together in a box office-smashing crossover of epic proportions. Or so they hope, anyway.

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That’s why fans can’t help but notice that the other elephant in the room is reluctant to join in on the frenzy. As of yet, Warner Brothers have shown no intention of connecting the DC Universe that is budding on the big and small screen. Connecting Arrow, which is enjoying a lot of goodwill from critics and audiences alike to the Cinematic Universe that was kicked off by the divisive Man of Steel seems like common sense. Throw in the Flash, Gotham and Constantine and you’re halfway there, right?

No. And here’s why: building a successful franchise around a shared universe is one thing. Ensuring its longevity is another.

Let’s look at DC’s big two. Superman and Batman have both been around for 75 years and are arguably the most recognizable superhero icons in existence. Both have featured in tv, movies, animated features and other multimedia for several decades of their existence. Batman is about to enjoy his second cinematic reboot since Tim Burton’s Batman came out back in 1989. In those two decades four different actors have taken up the cape and cowl, and Ben Affleck has joined the ranks as the fifth. And audiences around the world will love it. Because they love Batman. Decades of exposure to different versions and interpretations of the Dark Knight has implemented the character, the symbol, rather than the man behind it into people’s conscience. It's like Nolan's trilogy come to life.

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Out of all the issues to be had with Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel, Henry Cavill rarely comes up. We love the way he looks as Superman, we have recognized his talent and potential. In the years to come, he will have to prove that he is truly worthy to stand next to the universally revered Christopher Reeve. If he does, WB will have done it again: the cinematic endurance of the character of Superman is ensured because the audience will have accepted a different interpretation of the most iconic superhero of all time.

Robert Downey Jr.’s Iron Man is without doubt the biggest breakout superhero of the last decade, and the driving force behind the marvelous success of the MCU. I say “RDJ’s Iron Man” because that’s literally what it is. That’s all we’ve had of Iron Man so far. Robert Downey Jr. IS Iron Man, and that is both a blessing and a curse. Will the character of Iron Man survive without the actor attached to it? Only time will tell. That is the big challenge for Marvel in the future.

WB will always have the fortified pillars of their big two to fall back on. This can also be seen as a double-edged sword. They will be less inclined to gamble like Marvel did, but on the other hand it allows them to take the gradual approach that they seem to be taking. Flesh out Green Arrow and the Flash on the small screen in their own shared miniverse. Do justice to Constantine and give Del Toro’s Justice League Dark the go ahead at the same time. Deliver people another interpretation of Gotham and its crazy characters, this time through the eyes of the GCPD. Announce a Wonder Woman movie in the VERY near future because the whole world agrees that stuff is way overdue.

We fans want it all, and we want it right now. But we also want it to be good, and we want it to last forever. All of these DC Universes have crazy potential if they work out right. Because WB has learned that having audiences accept different people behind those masks and different interpretations of those characters is integral to making sure they stand the test of time.

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This is my first editorial, so give a girl some love and hit that red glove!

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Pasto
Pasto - 3/3/2014, 10:30 AM
Batcheeks, well done on loosing the editorial 'V'. I remember my first time...anyways, I didn't read the article., but good points. I like your ideas.



Klone
Klone - 3/3/2014, 10:33 AM
While that transition of the Trinity is cool, the middle one is by far the best.
Pasto
Pasto - 3/3/2014, 10:34 AM
TIP: Make a fansite. Not that difficult to do, it makes your articles look neater. Removes the black borderlines. And, it organizes everything you have ever posted article wise.
batcheeks8
batcheeks8 - 3/3/2014, 10:36 AM
@Pasto

Thanks bro, will do that!
Pasto
Pasto - 3/3/2014, 10:42 AM
I thought I'd go ahead and give a shout out to my man Hulksta, hell'uva guy.

batcheeks8
batcheeks8 - 3/3/2014, 10:43 AM
@Doopie

That's what counts in the end, right? ;) And thanks a bunch!
CommanderShepard
CommanderShepard - 3/3/2014, 10:55 AM
I think they should be connected because (lets be honest here) DC/WB has a lot of ground to catch up to Marvel movies. They are losing out on some big money. Connecting the two will help establish more of the DC universe and "catch up" a bit faster.
CommanderShepard
CommanderShepard - 3/3/2014, 10:59 AM
If longevity were a concern to WB/DC, they would not have went with the "Old" Batman and Ben Affleck.

By the time JL movie comes and if you want some solo movies, the Dude will be pushing 50. Huge mistake to go with Old Batman IMO.
cipher
cipher - 3/3/2014, 11:06 AM
Honestly, I don't really give two shits how they get there, so long as they do a good job. I mean, I'm generally optimistic about these kinda things (which is ironic given that I'm one nihilistic bastard in reality), so I'm just along for the ride, y'know? Hoping for the best. The only thing I'd prefer NOT be connected, is Constantine.

I mean, I'm a huge Hellblazer fan, and I've always felt that ol' Johnny boy was better off in his own lil' universe. I'm not interested in the New 52's idea of Constantine, so every time I see a picture of John standin' next to Batman or Superman I feel like I need another bloody cigarette.

Anyway, I don't want to ramble- nice job on your first, and thumbs up.

:)
cipher
cipher - 3/3/2014, 11:11 AM
F*ckin' hell. Ain't it always the way.. you work real hard to not spill coffee on a shirt you like, and surprise, surprise.. you spill it.

*grumble*

So what if I'm the only one who likes it, and she hates it.. still my bloody shirt...
BenjiWest
BenjiWest - 3/3/2014, 11:53 AM
Great write up. Hmm...was Del Toro's planned Justice League Dark for TV or the big screen?

DEVLIN712
DEVLIN712 - 3/3/2014, 1:24 PM
Great article, I completely agree; while it'd be cool to see Arrow in the DCU, they should stay separate
jesse4u27
jesse4u27 - 3/3/2014, 1:30 PM
love me some batcheeks ;) good write up
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 3/3/2014, 4:46 PM
Yeah sure i agree with the editorial.
feedonatreefrog
feedonatreefrog - 3/3/2014, 6:12 PM
No, they should not connect the CW TV shows to the movies. Could you imagine if Iron Man started as a CW show, and they got the CW actor for the film instead of RDJ? There's a very good chance that the franchise would have taken off the same way.

You think comic book fans would be used to the idea of multiple universes.
Interestein
Interestein - 3/3/2014, 7:10 PM
You make good points, but WB is at a loss not connecting ARROW and THE FLASH with the DCCU, television is a great portal for viewing, and to have a cohesive universe throughout would be awesome!


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feedonatreefrog
feedonatreefrog - 3/3/2014, 11:01 PM
No, they should not connect the CW TV shows to the movies. Could you imagine if Iron Man started as a CW show, and they got the CW actor for the film instead of RDJ? There's a very good chance that the franchise would not have taken off the same way.

You think comic book fans would be used to the idea of multiple universes.
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