JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Reveals Plan To Restore Superman's "Humanity" In Scrapped Sequels

JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Reveals Plan To Restore Superman's "Humanity" In Scrapped Sequels

Man of Steel and Justice League director Zack Snyder has elaborated on his original plans for Superman in the DCEU, explaining how he intended to conclude the Man of Steel's arc in his scrapped sequels.

By JoshWilding - May 02, 2024 09:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

Henry Cavil's time in the DC Extended Universe abruptly ended after his widely celebrated return as Superman in Black Adam. DC Studios decided they didn't want him to stick around as the Man of Steel, and David Corenswet was cast as his replacement. 

Of course, had filmmaker Zack Snyder not been ousted from the DCEU before Justice League finished shooting, he'd have made at least two sequels to the 2017 movie. 

GQ recently caught up with the director to discuss his career behind the camera. Snyder then elaborated on his decision to end Zack Snyder's Justice League with a glimpse into the future which revealed that Superman eventually falls under Darkseid's control. 

We even returned to the DCEU's "Knightmare" timeline, with Batman leading a team of heroes and villains plotting to take the Man of Steel down. 

"He was going to have to succumb to the Anti-life, be destroyed, turn the clock back, and then get his chance for this battle against Darkseid," Snyder says of his plans for Superman's redemption arc. "If you will...that would have finished his trilogy of becoming this guardian, and sort of, return him to his humanity."

For the most part, this isn't the direction DC fans wanted to see Superman head in on screen. In fact, while Joss Whedon's Justice League was widely criticised, his more hopeful take on the Man of Tomorrow earned positive reviews and was more in line with the comics. 

Various details have been revealed about Snyder's Justice League sequels over the years, including how the trilogy ended. Batman would have died battling Darkseid, but Wonder Woman was going to become the new leader of Themyscira and negotiate peace the world over. 

Aquaman was crowned the rightful ruler of Atlantis, and Cyborg evolved, becoming a God of the digital age and transforming himself to once again look human. During Superman's absence, Lois Lane became pregnant with Bruce Wayne's child; despite that, the Kryptonian vowed to become a father to the boy, giving him a reason to be Clark Kent again. 

Twenty years later, a memorial service for Batman would see Commissioner Barbara Gordon ask Lois when she planned to tell her child the truth about his father. Surrounded by the League, Lois told her son that his dad was Batman. 

Justice League 3 was then going to end in Gotham City with the emergence of a familiar figure. Yes, Bruce and Lois' son decided to take over the Batman mantle to protect his father's home and legacy. 

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 5/2/2024, 9:39 AM
I’m curious how Superman would have defeated Darkseid. I mean the specifics of the, no doubt, brutal fight.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 5/2/2024, 9:48 AM
@IAmAHoot -
No, no, wait, that was going to be in the director's cut.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 5/2/2024, 12:17 PM
@Goldboink - I don’t care the original plans, I mean the plans post-Snyder Cut, which the R-rating is the only way we would hear the story told any time he talks about it now.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 5/2/2024, 9:41 AM
Mf had no business stripping him off it in the first place 🤦🏽‍♂️
xfan320
xfan320 - 5/2/2024, 9:43 AM
It's so bad.

Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 5/2/2024, 9:44 AM
Its so good
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 5/2/2024, 9:44 AM
Humanity
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Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 5/2/2024, 9:37 PM
@harryba11zack - that wasn't Snyders fault
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 5/2/2024, 10:19 PM
@Mrtoke - fault? I thought it was beautiful
dracula
dracula - 5/2/2024, 9:46 AM
Thats not retoring thats undoing

“Flash” stops Superman from going evil after he already went evil

No arc, just a reset button

Worst ways to use time travel
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 10:11 AM
@dracula - I mean, he's not really saying that.

Superman isn't evil because he chose to be. He's being controlled by the anti life.

And going back to fix things that have gotten so f@#$ed is a very basic time travel plot.
dracula
dracula - 5/2/2024, 10:34 AM
@Origame - yeah but in most stuff the changes dont have major effecf on the main characters

Having superman go evil will basically just be a shock moment, so flash can undo it without consequence and then go back to status quo

Like really if you are going to do an evil superman story have fallout

The dcau did this plot minus the time travel in the Superman The animated series finale. Was suppose to show the fall out the next season but was cancelled

Still got that fall out in Justice League Unlimited, with the CADMUS arc, one of dc’s best stories
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 10:39 AM
@dracula - they did have fallout already from superman going evil. That was the events of bvs where batman took those visions as confirmation he should kill superman, and by the end superman did die.

Not only that but the actual story would've concluded with batman discovering what allowed superman to be controlled by the anti life was the death of lois by Darkseid, something he avoids by sacrificing himself in lois' place.
dracula
dracula - 5/2/2024, 10:46 AM
@Origame - so basically everyone but Superman gets an arc then
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 11:17 AM
@dracula - yeah, if you boil down an arc to its most basic plot points.

If you have a description of endgame this basic you aren't gonna get an arc for captain america, which we know isn't the case.

But come on. Just admit you were wrong about your initial point instead of moving the goal post to bash a film maker for decisions in a film that will never be made.
dracula
dracula - 5/2/2024, 11:32 AM
@Origame - no because the point of the first comment was to point out Superman gets mo real arc

This is not the same as endgame

The stuff that happened pre endgame still happened, the characters still experienced those things

Them undoing the snap doesnt wipe away the the fact that it happened and all the main avengers went through it and it still happened in universe (all thought they havent really done much interesting in a post snap world)

Only character who would remember anything here is The Flash
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 11:47 AM
@dracula - this is like saying the development in the back to the future movies didn't happen.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 4:32 PM
@Origame - That's not like saying that at all. We see the development happen because the main character is going back in time and we're seeing the development of characters happen in the movies through him. That's not what's happening for Superman. Superman being turned evil by brainwashing and then time travel reversing that and making it not happen and then him beating Darkseid isn't a character arc.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 4:34 PM
@Origame - Some may argue Steve's arc is being regressed in Endgame.

I don't know why you're defending this. It's not a character arc. Superman doesn't change by time travel making it so he wasn't brainwashed.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 4:51 PM
@dagenspear - ...what I'm saying is YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE STORY IS GOING TO BE TOLD.

Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 4:52 PM
@dagenspear - and that's not my point. Sure, maybe Steve didn't have a great arc in endgame and mightve regressed. The point is he did have an arc.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 4:53 PM
@Origame - Maybe. But these are reactions to what's said in this article.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 4:54 PM
@dagenspear - I'm defending it because you know nothing of what they were actually gonna do with his character. It's 2 movies both being 2 and a half hours. There's gonna be plenty going on outside of specifically the few sentences here summarizing the plot. Acting as if there's no way to incorporate a superman arc is just trying to find reasons to b!tch about snyder.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 5:01 PM
@Origame - It doesn't really apply though because Steve is the one having the arc because he's time traveling. He's not being changed by other people time traveling. Which some may think isn't what's happening with Superman here and that Superman being stopped from being evil via plot and other characters actions, which I think may be all the info we have on that, in that time travel happens, Darkseid is prevented from mind controlling Superman and then he fights him. That's not a character arc, because the character in the pitch we have doesn't change, someone is stopped from controlling him and he does the same thing he's been doing since even his first movie, battles a villain to protect the earth. Steve does change and makes a character choice to retire.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 5:04 PM
@Origame - You're defending it based on no information. We don't know, but we can point out why we think what information we have doesn't work. I'm pointing out the issue with what is said, because it's what he said, not what he didn't say.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 5:04 PM
@dagenspear - and I'm saying it's premature to complain about what may or may not be included. Criticize what's actually being said, not what you guess might not be included.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 5:06 PM
@dagenspear - and George mcfly was being affected by people time traveling. Are you gonna argue he didn't have an arc?

This argument is stupid.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 5:08 PM
@dagenspear - ...and my defense is that we don't have the information 🤣

Ffs, you and so many others here keep saying I'm so negative on this site yet you continue to insist on bad mouthing a man for movies he isn't even making. You're pathetic.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 5:08 PM
@Origame - What's actually being said is this. You're defense is on what could be.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/2/2024, 5:11 PM
@Origame - And George Mcfly's character arc happens in the past and we see it and it's not stopping mind control from someone else. The change is that George never changed from a teen to an adult and Marty's time travel interference is what instigates his change. George pre change in the future isn't important to the overall character because it's only around for about 10 minutes. The change is what we follow.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 5:21 PM
@dagenspear - no its not. That's what your argument is on.

My entire point is nothing in this summary says superman won't have an arc, and it's stupid to just assume he won't.
Origame
Origame - 5/2/2024, 5:24 PM
@dagenspear - again, this is just making assumptions. How do you know superman in the movie will simply be mind control and they prevent it? Why do you think they won't spend most of the movie in the past working with superman, building an arc from there? You have no answers because you have no answers. Just baseless assumptions like somehow concluding he's gonna have 10 minutes in the film 🤣
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/2/2024, 9:48 AM
As much as I Iove Synder and his contributions to the DCEU (he was crucial to the making of WW) I’m really not down with this Lois/Bruce love angle. It’s just so left field and kinda cringe tbh. It reminds me of Pearl harbour where Kate Beckinsale’s character is sandwiched between the two male leads. This type of storytelling is flawed. Bruce pursuing or developing a romance with Diana makes so much more sense. Lois dating another man would only make sense if it was just another guy, not Batman Jesus Christ. Imagine if Synder wanted Superman to date Catwoman. 🤦🏿‍♂️ 😂
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/2/2024, 9:55 AM
@TheMetaMan - yeah , just a weird angle

Funnily enough , one of the men in Pearl Harbor was Affleck lole
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/2/2024, 12:02 PM
@TheMetaMan - Ever read that Tom King book where they double-dated? They dressed up as each other. Like Batman and Catwoman dressed up as Superman and Lois and and vice versa. That's like softcore swinging. Like the superfriends version of swinging where nobody's actually cheating, lol.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/2/2024, 12:37 PM
@ObserverIO - Oh snap I saw a YouTube short of that of course lol.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/2/2024, 12:37 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Yes indeed. I dont think I’ve watched pearl harbour since it was released a long time ago.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 5/2/2024, 9:52 AM
what humanity?
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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/2/2024, 12:04 PM
@Superheromoviefan - that is a creepy-assed shot in retrospect. Like he's not rushing down there to save her, he's just hovering and staring. Looks like he's as likely to incinerate her with his heat vision than save her. Damn that's a spooky Superman.
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