EDITORIAL: Comic Book Movie Fans Are Spoiled

EDITORIAL: Comic Book Movie Fans Are Spoiled

I discuss the history of comic book movies, and my belief that comic book movie fans are starting to become spoiled and are starting to have ZERO appreciation for the plethora of comic book movies we get each and every year now.

Editorial Opinion
By iMVuze - Dec 24, 2013 11:12 PM EST
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I have found that as the years go by, the fans that "love" comic book movies are becoming more and more unappreciative and as we move into an era where comic book movies come out in droves and are accepted as "mainstream" I have decided to take a look back (using Marvel movies as an example)and try to remind those who aren't appreciative that they should calm down a little bit and just sit back and enjoy being a comic book fan because these cinematic universes and sagas may not be around forever.




The Start
1986-1999

From 1986 to 1999, there were a whopping FIVE Marvel titles released. Yes, you read that right, just five. Four of the five were laughable attempts at bringing our favorite characters to the big screen while the other one brought to life a character no one knew was even a Marvel character. So, we should stop for a second and let that sink in. Thirteen years passed and only five films were released, two of which were direct to DVD might I add. Here is a timeline:

1986-Howard the Duck
1989-The Punisher
1990-Captain America
1994-Fantastic Four
1998-Blade




Finally
2000-2003

In 2000, Fox took a chance and made the film X-Men and at the time, geeks around the world were left in awe and couldn't believe characters like Wolverine, Cyclops, and Magneto were on the big screen. Two years after X-Men Columbia released a film that left grown men and little boys twinkle eyed. Everyone's favorite wall-crawler was finally put in film and finally, comic books can be taken seriously as a source material that can be made into a compelling film. So what if the X-Men wore all black leather and Spider-Man's first love interest wasn't Gwen Stacy? These characters were finally brought to light in more of a serious tone than previous films like Howard the Duck and the Fantastic Four movie. Saying that, not all films were at the caliber of X-Men & Spider-Man, but it was good to see characters like Daredevil & Hulk on screen none the less. Due to this success, movie companies were okay with using comic characters for films of their own. How okay were they with it? Well, they didn't churn them out in those four years but Marvel films were released. Less years and same amount of movies shows significant amount of progress. Look at the Timeline below:

2000-X-Men
2002-Blade II, Spider-Man
2003-Daredevil, Hulk, X2




Starting to Get the Big Picture
2004-2009

Mainstream audiences are now starting to get behind superheroes and as each movie comes out, the door opens wider for lesser known characters to come in and share their story. Spider-Man 2 at the time of it's release became the highest grossing superhero film and technology finally allowed us to see characters like Iron Man, Ghost Rider, and Silver Surfer. We also got an origin film for everyone's favorite X-Man, Wolverine. Between 2004 and 2009 TWELVE films were released based on Marvel characters alone. This shows the embrace people had for heroes big & small. This also is the star of the genre being taken seriously. So seriously in fact that the Blade, X-Men, and Spider-man franchises all made it to the trilogy phase. This is also the start of a "cinematic universe" that audiences are starting to follow because they are interested in where the story will go. The timeline:

2004-Blade: Trinity, The Punisher, Spider-Man 2
2005-Elektra, Fantastic Four
2006-X-Men: The Last Stand
2007-Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3
2008-Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Punisher: War Zone
2009-X-Men Origins: Wolverine




The Big Picture
2010-2013

Marvel's The Avengers is probably one of the greatest leaps of faith ever made in cinema. This leap got them to the third spot on the highest grossing films of all time and this was all from an idea that was conceived in a time where studios were making a story out of one character instead of multiple ones. The connection between Thor, Captain America, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man & Iron Man 2 was made because people were intrigued in the story that these characters were involved in and these people were comic book fans and non comic book fans alike. Guess how many movies were put out in this four year span? Try about ten. The timeline:

2010-Iron Man 2
2011-Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor, X-Men:First Class
2012-Ghost Rider: SoV, Marvel's The Avengers, The Amazing Spider-Man
2013-Iron Man 3, The Wolverine, Thor: The Dark World




The Future
2014-

We are now at a point where not only do we get to see our favorite characters on the big screen, but we are getting more comic accurate stories as time goes by. What is coming in the next ten years which ranges from Spidey fighting the Sinister Six, to The Avengers fighting foes like Ultron & Thanos, has me hoping that the world doesn't end anytime soon and instead of smashing or ranking movies, we should be glad they are up there to begin with. Gone are the days of mediocre comic book movies like Howard the Duck, The Punisher, and The Fantastic Four. We should be excited that these movies are interesting to the general public and that serious money now goes into them. We should also be thankful that studio's took leaps of faith to deliver us something truly magical. Oh and this what the future is looking like:

2014-Captain America: The Winter Solider, The Amazing Spider-Man 2
X-Men: DoFP, Guardians of the Galaxy
2015-Avengers: AoU, Fantastic Four reboot, Ant-Man
2016- 2 TBA Marvel films, X-Men: Apocalypse, The Amazing Spider-Man 3
2017-TBA Marvel film, The Amazing Spider-Man 4

That's thirteen Marvel films in four years.
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quas666
quas666 - 12/25/2013, 1:14 AM
I totally agree. I've loved these characters for so long I get excited just seeing them on screen. Yeah you strive for amazing movies but hey a lot of these companies do learn from mistakes.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 12/25/2013, 1:33 AM
What are fans supposed to with their life if not complain about the movies? Also, the 1994 Fantastic four movie wasn't released.
Odin
Odin - 12/25/2013, 3:44 AM
Since when did term "fan" become synonym to "complainer".
What I don't understant with nowadays is that, with such a large variety of CBMs, why do people watch movies, or read news about movies, that they already have decided they are not gonna like.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 12/25/2013, 5:47 AM
So basically we can't use any legitimate criticisms on any CBMs nowadays since they used to be much worse in the old days? That's....not good advice. Yes, there are a lot of great movies based on our favorite characters (Avengers, Dark Knight, Spider-man,etc.) but like you said, the studios have learned from their past mistakes and the movies are better, which is all the more reason that we should raise our expectations beyond "at least 'insert character name here' HAS a movie."

Yes, I agree with you that a lot of fans are divided in their opinions and are sometimes overly chaotic over the slightest of flaws, but that's part of being not only a fan, but also a movie-goer. I'm glad I'm my favorite characters are getting some movie love but that doesn't mean that's all I expect.
EpitomeofAwesome
EpitomeofAwesome - 12/25/2013, 6:13 AM
Expected just another generic and recycled editorial, but this was actually really neat. Nice write-up
ArtisticErotic
ArtisticErotic - 12/25/2013, 6:31 AM
Good article man, what he's basically saying is that today with internet it's near impossible to enjoy a film.

Today with youtube and the internet highway everyone has become an uptight critic sad but true including myself. Movies in general are just hard to enjoy because we are always looking for mistake to point out instead sitting back enjoying a film.

A couple of years back I didn't give shit about who was directing, staring or writing whatever script for a movie now it's a determining factor on If I see a film or not.
iMVuze
iMVuze - 12/25/2013, 6:54 AM
@HOTSHOT

I was expecting that response lol. You may have legitimate criticism (as with any film) but some fans are starting to nit pick and not even give a film a fair chance. So I thought a walk down memory lane might change some minds. Could you imagine Raimi's Spider-Man released now? It would be ripped to shreds. "NO WEB SHOOTERS!" "MARY JANE WASN'T HIS FIRST LOVE THIS MOVIE IS ALREADY RUINED" see where I am going with this?

@everyone else

thank you for the positive feedback everyone I really appreciate it!
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 12/25/2013, 8:14 AM
@iMVuse, yep, those kind of complaints are annoying, like I said
" agree with you that a lot of fans are divided in their opinions and are sometimes overly chaotic over the slightest of flaw". I meant that some changes are so big nowadays that they deserve criticisms like Peter being a promise breaker, Superman being a destruction machine, Mandarin not being Mandarin, X Men Origins' Deadpool.

Hell, even those flaws with the Raimi films would be super annoying if the story and the characters weren't treated so respectfully. I mean, Rogue and Iceman were nothing like their comic book counterparts but I still enjoyed the movie. Why? Because a lot of characters WERE accurate and the storytelling aswell as the character interactions were great.

I guess my point is that there are big changes that WILL piss people off like Deadpool's appearance in Origins or Superman not caring about the damage he causes, if the movie doesn't do a good job of justifiying these changes. For these types of movies, complaining about the little things is justified.

Great article though and I do agree with a lot of what you say. We could be a little less nitpicky at times. Thumbs up :) [I'm giving postive feedback too sir.]
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 12/25/2013, 8:51 AM
Doom

Don't you get it? We're supposed to like everything that comes out now because back in the 80's and 90's there were also terrible movies....or something like that?

I dont get it either man. Bad movies are bad movies. Like the ones you like and dislike the rest. The formula shouldn't change because now there are more CBM's than ever before.

Im sorry but both Ghost Rider movies are terrible. That isn't me being spoiled, that is me being honest. They [frick]ing truly suck. So did both F4 films and many other CBMs.

I guess im just missing the point of this article?
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 12/25/2013, 10:20 AM
Totally agreed. CBM fans are the most spoiled group of people on Earth, be grateful that we're even getting more movies.

I mean yeah I think Captain America was a terrible movie with a shit excuse of a villain. But that said I give the film a 5/10 instead of a 1/10 or 0/10 ONLY because I'm just excited and grateful that we even got a movie with Cap and Red Skull.

Yeah, Last Stand was a bad movie but I give it a 5/10 because I was just so happy to see Beast and Juggernaut come to life on the silver screen.

@Doom & Corndog
I've only seen four CBMs in the last 20 years that are absolutely shit. Ghost Rider 1 & 2, Elektra and Batman & Robin. Others like Cap, X3, Iron Man 2, Origins, Batman Forever, Daredevil, Thor, Superman Returns, Green Lantern, etc. are all relatively weak but still have multiple redeeming qualities to them.
ruadh
ruadh - 12/25/2013, 10:20 AM
I made this point on another article as well, but when I was in high school, it was non-nerds that made it unbearable to be a nerd. Now it's fellow nerds that make it unbearable.
M3T4LL0
M3T4LL0 - 12/25/2013, 12:59 PM
I wrote an article like this not too long ago and you touch on a lot of the same things I mentioned. I agree 100%
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/25/2013, 1:21 PM
Yeah its awesome as long as Hollywood don't butt [frick] the characters we love then its not :)

Merry Xmas! :P
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 12/25/2013, 1:52 PM
I think you need to change the title to "Marvel Fanboys are becoming Spoiled" since you make no mention on non-Marvel films at all.
feedonatreefrog
feedonatreefrog - 12/25/2013, 2:45 PM
X-Men, Spider-Man, X2, Spider-Man 2 >>>> IM, TIH, IM2, Thor, CA, FC, Avengers, TASM, The Wolverine, IM3, Thor TDW
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 12/25/2013, 2:53 PM
^agree mostly. Except Avengers because it was so epic and iconic, and First Class because it was just such a great film. I'd also add Blade 1 & 2 to the first section, someone bought the entire trilogy for Christmas. Just 100% completed Blade 1 and damn...I had only seen 2 but 1 is about just as good IMHO.
feedonatreefrog
feedonatreefrog - 12/25/2013, 3:01 PM
For me, Avengers on first watch was like a 9.5/10.

Now it's sunk down to a 6.5/10.

The excitement of these heroes meeting has wore off and now all I have is 2.5 hrs of groan-worthy Whedon dialogue, tv lighting, and no compelling plot. A few action shots are cool (tracking shot of Iron Man flying), as are a few jokes ("It seems to run on some form of electricity!"), but there's not much here for me anymore.

I see myself rewatching SM, SM2, XM, and X2 a lot more than Avengers in the future.

superpower76
superpower76 - 12/25/2013, 3:50 PM
Good read and I agree.

But welcome to earth bro. This is not an entertainment exclusive issue it's a worldwide, generation jumping pandemic.

Learn to let these people and their opinions roll off your back or you will go nuts.

Merry Christmas
QuestiontheAnswer
QuestiontheAnswer - 12/25/2013, 4:17 PM
It's mostly the obsessed fans like us on this site that rant about these movies. The majority of fans enjoy the movies at the cinema. I only dislike CBM's when there are serious flaws. Of all the 2000's CBMs I've only disliked Elektra, TASM and Ghost Rider 2.
iMVuze
iMVuze - 12/25/2013, 4:19 PM
@ HOTSHOT

Thank you for the feedback as well.

@ Lhornbk

You're right I don't and that's because I used Marvel films as an example. It's not just people who are fans of marvel related films.

@everyone else who doesn't understand the point of the article

Appreciate that at least movie studios are attempting to bring our favorite characters to life instead of pulling the "that'll never work we should try something else" method.
Merry Christmas all!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 12/26/2013, 3:59 AM
Jj63

You're welcome to think those are the only movies that suck. Thats what opinions are all about. I, on the other hand, think that others certainly have sucked.

IMVuze

Oh I'm grateful that CBM's are at the forefront and a lot are getting made. Definitely. However, it doesn't mean I have to pretend to like most of them.
tonytony
tonytony - 12/26/2013, 5:47 AM
Marvel fanboy rewriting history. Where are the dc movies like the batman films from the 80s and 90s which all dominated box office and got hollywood thinking about box office potential of comics. Where is constantine? Or v for vendetta? Where are the superman films with christopher reeve? This is a poor article
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/26/2013, 9:15 AM
Corndog @ ;P
iMVuze
iMVuze - 12/26/2013, 11:55 AM
@ tonytony

At this point I highly doubt you read the article at all. The opening paragraph states I use Marvel films as an example. The article would have been too big if I included every comic book movie. I enjoy other works like Batman, Batman Returns, V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, RED, and Watchmen. Poor article or poor comprehension skills?
AverageDrafter
AverageDrafter - 12/26/2013, 12:21 PM
Yeah, ignoring DC and others output and just focusing on Marvel is missing more than half the picture.

Modern (and I mean not golden aged serials or camped out Batman) CBMs start with Superman: The Movie.

S:TM was the first time that special effects had caught up with what was easy to draw in the books. "You will believe a man can fly!" was the tagline for a good reason. Also, the film was born in the Jaws/Star Wars blockbuster era, cementing the idea that quality CBMs would be nationwide events for everyone, rather than just something to take the kids to.

It was also the fall of the Superman movies that turned poor CBMs into hokey messes to be mocked and ignored, and the years ahead would showcase a lot of these as well.

Batman (1989) was the next major milestone, where CBMs once again proved they could pack the house. Another era of CBMs were launched including mining lesser known titles like The Rocketeer, The Crow, as well as pulp/radio/strip titles like Dick Tracy, The Shadow, and The Phantom with somewhat mixed results.

The true Marvel Era began with X-Men, whose biggest contribution was best summed up with "What, would you prefer Yellow spandex?" as well as deftly handling the first major CBM team-up by anchoring the story on a few characters and ignoring the need to have a hundred origins because they all had the same one: They're mutants.

Spiderman showed that reverence to the source is not necessarily a bad thing (Stacy and organic shooters notwithstanding) as well as defining a New York superhero in a 9/11 dazed world.

Nolan's Batman series was a semi-realistic take on a usually stylized world, as well as the most invested performances before or since and the only CBM role to win an Oscar.

Sin City was the result of strict adherence to the page as a storyboard, which Snyder then carried over to 300 and Watchmen. Marvel launched its string of interconnected films that would become the "Phase" system and the MCU, based on the perfect casting of RDJ as Tony Stark and the good will generated by hit after hit based in this shared universe.

The Avengers was the end result of this experiment - the highest grossing CBM of all time, even if ultimately the film is bogged down with a bunch of rolling around in the dirt before we get to the superlative finale.

But one thing has been true, even back in the serial days - Comic book fans, who are heavily invested in continuity and extremely vocal, will bitch and moan as loud as they can. This has always been the case, and always will be, and god bless them they do keep the filmmakers constantly on their toes.

Oh, and MOS SUXORS!
HankPymp
HankPymp - 12/26/2013, 2:01 PM
this article does have some good points...
jus' sayin'...

Firgosaurus
Firgosaurus - 12/26/2013, 8:15 PM
Well if the poor in the medieval times had internet they would also scream and shout and rag out their kings and queens.

It's only natural for people to express displeasure but it is not natural not to have good taste in things or be appreciative of things in front of you.

Sure it may paint a picture of Pretention but ultimately like what you like but dont' go thinking that you have control over something you clearly don't.

Merely state an opinion and walk away, don't linger, don't be a bad fan because it is fact that these are the same fans that drools over their idols in person.

I mean if Bale asked as Baleman hater to lick his butthole, I am pretty sure that Godzillafart would have no qualms licking that shit up.
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