George Lucas Loses Legal Battle Against Stormtrooper Designer!

George Lucas Loses Legal Battle Against Stormtrooper Designer!

In a real life version of David vs. Goliath, the prop designer who made the original Stormtrooper helmets for Star Wars has triumphed in a legal battle against George Lucas! Find out the details here...

By JoshWilding - Jul 27, 2011 07:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: BBC News

Andrew Ainsworth of South London has beaten Star Wars creator George Lucas in a battle over his rights to sell replicas of the iconic movie costumes. As reported by BBC News, he successfully argued that they were functional pieces of work rather than artistic, thereby meaning they were not subject to copyright laws. Here are a few excerpts from their report which further explains the case and circumstances behind it, but you can read more by clicking the link below.

Mr Ainsworth told the BBC: "This is a massive victory, a total victory, we've already got the champagne out." He said he went to court on a principle and he was not going to allow the director to "buy his soul". Both the Court of Appeal and the High Court had already ruled in Mr Ainsworth's favour in his multi-million pound battle with Mr Lucas's production company. The father-of-two has been selling copies of his plastic composite armour and helmets - from the original 1977 film - for eight years. He uses the same studio in Twickenham from which he made the original costumes, and charges up to £1,800.

In 2004, Lucasfilm sued for $20m (£12m) arguing he did not hold the intellectual property rights and had no right to sell them - a point upheld by a US court. But the judgement could not be enforced because the designer held no assets in the US, so the battle moved to the UK. The Star Wars creator, worth an estimated £2bn, claimed Mr Ainsworth was breaching his copyright.

He took his case to the High Court in 2008, Court of Appeal a year later, and earlier this year to the Supreme Court - the highest court in the land. That court has now also ruled that the 3D works should not be considered sculptures, which means their copyright protection is 15 years from the date they were marketed, and had therefore expired.


Basically, if you want a Stormtrooper outfit from the same guy who made them back when the original movies came out, you'll have to get one in the UK. What do you guys think about all of this though? Was George Lucas right to try and put an end to these suits being sold? Be sure to share your thoughts in the usual place.




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blvdnoise
blvdnoise - 7/27/2011, 8:00 AM
Interesting.. Glad to see some stuck back to the man. Yes, Lucas is about as much "the man" as they come..
Armageddon26
Armageddon26 - 7/27/2011, 8:06 AM
HAHA, Take that Lucas
HelaGood
HelaGood - 7/27/2011, 8:10 AM
i confirm blvdnoise 's comment!!!!!!!
TopCat89
TopCat89 - 7/27/2011, 8:11 AM
POOWWW right in the kisser!
nuck82
nuck82 - 7/27/2011, 8:11 AM
mmmmmmmmmm nom nom nom. i need to go to that party with those storm troopers
MikeHawk
MikeHawk - 7/27/2011, 8:16 AM
haha Lucas, u money hording fool!
Floke
Floke - 7/27/2011, 8:17 AM
I think he was afraid that Uwe Boll would buy some and make a better reboot of episode I-III
TonyPaintball
TonyPaintball - 7/27/2011, 8:19 AM
Lucas, just like anyone has a right to protect what he feels is his property - physical, intellectual or otherwise. Why cheer for anyone in this case? If some comic book owners and publishers protected their property as well as Lucas maybe we wouldn't have some of the crap out there that you all complain about. Remember: when they releasd the new Star Wars action figures and put less Leias and C3-PO's in the shipments to increase collectability Lucas stepped in and said that was not cool and threatened to pull their license.
astromerc
astromerc - 7/27/2011, 8:25 AM
That shipping issue is not the same as the court case.
rocky
rocky - 7/27/2011, 8:36 AM
Personal feelings aside I think Lucas got the short end of the stick here.

I don't understand how this doesn't violate his rights, seems like flimsy reasoning to me from the court's part.

This guy did work for hire and that's where the guy's rights end to the material IMO
TonyPaintball
TonyPaintball - 7/27/2011, 8:36 AM
@ncreb - Not excited, but at one moment people hail him, and others as Gods and just as quickly turn and forget what they did bring to their lives and call them names over something he has the right to do. And I stand by my statement that people piss and moan on here because someone DIDN'T protect their "childhood" or favorite thing ever and now when someone does they slam them for it. Hypocrisy runs rampant here. Am I happy with everything he's done? No. But I never forget about what great things he brought. His failings are not enough for me to cheer that he used his rights as an American or that he lost.
chasesuperremey
chasesuperremey - 7/27/2011, 8:42 AM
God he is a huge As-s HAT! thats Lucs more money then god and still wants more!
TheGuillotine
TheGuillotine - 7/27/2011, 9:01 AM
"Personal feelings aside I think Lucas got the short end of the stick here.

I don't understand how this doesn't violate his rights, seems like flimsy reasoning to me from the court's part.

This guy did work for hire and that's where the guy's rights end to the material IMO"

^^This. They wanted to eff with a rich guy and that's what the UK courts did.
LeoAtrox
LeoAtrox - 7/27/2011, 9:02 AM
I'm with rocky up there ... It doesn't matter how we feel about George Lucas, that's his intellectual property. The court ruled that Stormtrooper armor is "functional pieces of work," and I'd like to know exactly what function that is. As a suit of armor, does it offer enough physical protection to be properly classified as functional armor? Or is it a "piece of work" of some other function? If the function of "costume" is sufficient to nullify copyright protection, what is to say that the function of "art" or "entertainment" is insufficient? Copyright might as well not exist in the UK after this ruling.
ROMACK
ROMACK - 7/27/2011, 9:03 AM
Lucas struck out on his on because of the system that was in place at the time. He did to get one over on "The Man". No he has become what he despised and can't see it for him self.

"Power corrupts, Absolute power......."
EsoOne
EsoOne - 7/27/2011, 9:14 AM
George lucas is a tw*t as if his 2 billion wasn't enough if theres one type of person i hate its greedy people fair play andrew ainsworth
AGENTJAY1130
AGENTJAY1130 - 7/27/2011, 9:17 AM
Are you serious LUCAS!!? The damn man designed them for god sake let the man live!!! Well now that the courts said back off you need to trying working on another STAR WARS movie! To avoid this kind of humiliation just make them yourself you MORON!!! Rich people !!! SMH
VictorHugo
VictorHugo - 7/27/2011, 9:29 AM
What a selfish prick! Instead of giving the designer a retirement for life, a piece of the action, he SUES his own people!! What a monstrous attitude. :(
croniccris
croniccris - 7/27/2011, 9:30 AM
Good for him! O I would totally F the S outta that stormtrooper too
Fantine
Fantine - 7/27/2011, 9:38 AM
It was his creation he should be allowed to do what he wants with them. What Lucas not happy with the billions he has?
Show4God1
Show4God1 - 7/27/2011, 9:41 AM
I am actually glad someone stuck it to Lucas,as much as he has raped his fans. I mean, i know it was on a technicallity, but still...im glad!
Wrigs
Wrigs - 7/27/2011, 9:49 AM
You guys dismiss Lucas by saying stuff like he "only made on good movie, Star Wars"!? That's like saying that Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster only created one good superhero. The fact is, Lucas ranks at or near the top of the list of our great mythological world creators like Tolkien and CS Lewis. I think he deserves a little more respect.
As far as the ownership of the Storm Trooper design, the only reason people side against Lucas is because he's already earned a fortune. I won't agrue British law, since I don't know a thing about it but I think either the law or the decision is wrong. The Storm Trooper was created by Lucas and the design was not only overseen by Lucas, with no doubt adjustments made by his instruction, but it was based on his preliminary designs and paid for by the enterprise of which Lucas owns the rights. Imagine if any of you were to create something as original and specific in design as an Optimus Prime or He-Man and know that after all the time and money spent on perfecting it paid to a some manufacturer guy in China, in fifteen years he could start competing against you in the marketplace with your exact product. That, in my opinion, would suck and so does the verdict.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 7/27/2011, 10:07 AM
@LeoAtrox the function is "costume" - as opposed to art
VictorHugo
VictorHugo - 7/27/2011, 10:10 AM
>original and specific in design as an Optimus Prime

Well, curiously, about originality Optimus Prime and He-man were both knock outs, the first a renamed japanese robot from another collection, and the other, a Conan toy with another name and hair color.
cosmicstranger
cosmicstranger - 7/27/2011, 10:22 AM
"The Empire Struck Out"
JackBauer
JackBauer - 7/27/2011, 10:26 AM
That's one hot Stormtrooper :)
Wrigs
Wrigs - 7/27/2011, 10:32 AM
@Victor
Lol. All right all rright...
How about "as orginal and specific as the japanese robot that was renamed to become Optimus Prime," or better yet, pick something that you believe was truly original. You get the point.
BooYah
BooYah - 7/27/2011, 10:42 AM
@azazel1 Star wars isnt his only good movie. Indiana Jones are classics.
souhunter
souhunter - 7/27/2011, 11:03 AM
IT'S A TRAP!!!
Wrigs
Wrigs - 7/27/2011, 11:07 AM
@Azazel1
American Graffiti and THX 1138 were good movies.
CapFan79
CapFan79 - 7/27/2011, 11:29 AM
Funny how Lucas saw himself as Luke and ultimately became more like Vader.

All his early films were about right vs might, good vs evil, warning of future dystopia and greed yet he embodies all those qualities.

The original Star Wars was about how a man can overcome powerful technology with the use (or faith in) of the "living" force and we learned in ESB and ROTJ how technology and evil corrupted Vader. The movies are all about CGI and computers now though.
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