SPIDER-MAN 2 Spoilers: 5 Things That Worked - And 3 That DIDN'T - In The Video Game Sequel

SPIDER-MAN 2 Spoilers: 5 Things That Worked - And 3 That DIDN'T - In The Video Game Sequel

It's now been a week since Spider-Man 2 was released and we're taking an in-depth look at what does and doesn't work in our detailed, and spoiler-filled, review of the video game sequel. Check it out...

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By JoshWilding - Oct 27, 2023 11:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man PS4

Spider-Man 2 is, without a doubt, one of the greatest superhero video games ever made. We say "one of" because Spider-Man and Spider-Man: Miles Morales pose some serious competition to this amazing sequel. 

Like many of you, we've completed the game and you best believe we have some thoughts! Reviews have been largely positive, but some of the complaints about its story and just how immersive this expanded version of New York is (an undeniable highlight we didn't have room to mention below) now make more sense. 

In this feature, we're taking a closer look at Spider-Man 2's highlights - there are plenty to mention, but these really stand out - while also delving into some of the decisions and moments which sadly didn't strike a chord in quite the same way. 

To take a look at this spoilery Spider-Man 2 breakdown, you simply need to click on the "Next" button below. 

DID WORK: A Bold New Take On Venom's Origin Story

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No, Eddie Brock is not Venom in Spider-Man 2. In fact, the character never even appears! It's a decision which will understandably upset some purists, but the reveal that Harry Osborn's illness has been cured by the symbiote works well, as does the moment he discovers it's granted him superhuman abilities. 

He initially suits up as an Agent Venom-style hero, only for the alien to later choose Peter while saving his life. This leads to a compelling arc where we see Spider-Man head down an increasingly darker path and, by the time he rejects the costume and it returns to Harry, Venom is unleashed...and you get to (briefly) play as him! 

It's a big change to Venom's origin story and one that hits the right notes and works well as the story being told is so personal. Later in the game, Insomniac attempts to introduce much of the character's recent Symbiote-related mythology, a decision which doesn't work quite as well. We'll get to that soon. 
 

DID WORK: Amazing Performances From Start To Finish

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Make no mistake about it, Spider-Man 2's entire cast is firing on all cylinders. Yuri Lowenthal delivers a career-best performance as Peter Parker, cementing himself as one of the greatest Spider-Man actors of all time. Nadji Jeter, meanwhile, is nothing short of spectacular as Miles Morales. 

Laura Bailey as Mary Jane, Graham Phillips as Harry Osborn, Jim Pirri as Kraven the Hunter, Mark Rolston as Norman Osborn, Stephen Oyoung as Mister Negative...the list goes on and on. This is a terrific cast from top to bottom.

Honestly, our only very minor disappointment was Tony Todd as Venom. It feels like his performance was hyped up to be more than what it was; yes, he's a good Venom, but the villain doesn't say enough to allow the actor to make his mark on him. 
 

DIDN'T WORK: Not Enough Variety

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There's heaps to do in Spider-Man 2. If you take your time and don't rush it, don't be surprised if you find yourself nearing the 30-hour mark when all is said and done. However, in terms of variety, it does feel like the sequel is lacking somewhat. 

The street crimes not only feel a tad too sporadic, but they're largely uninspired. You'll chase cars in a pared-down version of what we got in the previous games and trust us when we say there will be a lot of fires to put out. Beyond that, you're just beating up thugs or Symbiotes, saving the same buses and civilians over and over. It felt like we got a lot more last time.

In terms of side missions, there's only one thread - which sets the stage for Carnage in DLC or a future game - which proves to be anything more than a breezy diversion. This makes Spider-Man 2 feel almost incomplete and it's as if Insomniac didn't have time to flesh this world out as much as the last two times. 
 

DID WORK: Kraven's "Great Hunt"

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Aaron Taylor-Johnson can bite off all the noses he wants, but he's going to have a tough time beating Spider-Man 2's portrayal of Kraven the Hunter in next year's movie. This brute of a villain is near-unstoppable and a complete psychopath. 

Pirri is superb as the character and, as the story progresses, we learn he's come to New York for one final "Great Hunt" because he's dying and looking for someone to defeat him in battle. Ironically, that's neither Spider-Man as Venom is eventually the one to take him down...by taking off his head! 

In many respects, Kraven steals the show from Venom and feels both intimidating and a genuine threat to our heroes. He's also responsible for some of the sequel's most shocking reveals, including the fact he killed The Vulture, Scorpion, and Shocker. 
 

DID WORK: Miles Morales IS Spider-Man

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In case it wasn't already obvious, there's no longer any need to argue over whether Miles Morales is worthy of being Spider-Man alongside Peter Parker. It was apparent he deserves the mantle after playing Spider-Man: Miles Morales (not to mention what we've seen in the Spider-Verse movies) but this game just cements that as fact. 

Without ever diminishing Peter's role in the story or as a superhero, we see Miles make the right decisions when his mentor doesn't and ultimately take the lead in the fight against Venom when the original Spidey is left overwhelmed by the prospect of losing another important person in his life.  

When Spider-Man 2 ends, Pete entrusts Miles to take over for him as New York's sole Spidey (don't worry, there will surely be plenty of reasons for him to come out of retirement, including Carnage, Doctor Octopus, and Green Goblin). Honestly, the only negative is that awful final costume the teenager dons. 
 

DIDN'T WORK: Venom's Master Plan

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We've praised Venom's origin story - and the insanely badass level which sees you lay waste to countless Oscorp agents before fighting Kraven - but we weren't quite so pleased with what came later in the story. 

Largely under the Symbiote's control, Harry decides the best way to heal the world is to make everyone like him. New York becomes borderline post-apocalyptic and Venom realises he wants Peter by his side for what comes next, with much of the mythology lifted from Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman's Venom comic books. However, it's massively condensed (and largely glossed over), with this all feeling too much like what happened when Devil's Breath was unleashed on Manhattan. 

There's still plenty of emotion to be found and that ultimately saves this. However, had Spider-Man 2 made it so that Peter and Miles just wanted to stop and save Harry from staying the monstrous Venom who devoured Kraven's head, we think it would have been enough. The world-ending stakes feel more superfluous than epic.
 

DID WORK: New Powers

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Heading into Spider-Man 2, we could have never guessed both Peter and Miles would each be granted a whole new host of powers. With the former, you initially get to play around with his extra arms, though when the Symbiote comes along, the wall-crawler becomes an absolute beast of a character to control. 

With Miles, he too has plenty of awesome new Venom abilities, and both characters can unleash blasts which lay waste to enemies. Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of gadgets which, while useful, feel neither essential nor particularly exciting to play with (especially during stealth missions). 

Oddly, Miles' invisibility is no longer as important as it once was, and this takes us back to the game feeling a little unfinished and underdone in places. Overall, though, trust us when we say you'll be grinning from ear to ear making use of their respective power upgrades. Also, gliding rules.
 

DIDN'T WORK: It's Too Rushed In Places

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Spider-Man 2 is a fantastic game but we'd argue that Insomniac tries to cram too much story into this adventure. While the tale they're telling here resonates as a great comic book adventure and a compelling character piece, certain elements aren't given enough room to breathe. 

It may come down to how you approach playing the story; however, Harry stops being Anti-Venom almost as quickly as he first suits up. We'd have also liked to wear the Symbiote for longer - don't worry, you get a second chance with the Anti-Venom suit - and the final act plays out at a breakneck pace. 

Harry becomes Venom, you embark on a few very short missions, and then it's time for the final battle. Don't get us wrong, that lasts a good 45 minutes or more and is suitably epic but, as conclusions go, we'd say Spider-Man and Spider-Man: Miles Morales did it better. 
 

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marvel72
marvel72 - 10/27/2023, 11:27 AM
Black Cat is a Lesbian,she says something about leaving her Girlfriend in Paris.

Miles has a side mission where one of his male friends wants to propose to another male.

There is I believe it's a side mission that once completed you unlock a pride costume and a rainbow graffiti wall that has BLM sprayed on it.

And what about the Spanish language controversy.

Its all on YouTube with screen shots.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/27/2023, 11:31 AM
@marvel72 - there's a lot of inclusive/diversity stuff, but I think they did that on purpose. It doesn't affect how I see Spider-Man though, so I don't care
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 10/27/2023, 12:10 PM
@marvel72 - what a miserable life you live
Thing94
Thing94 - 10/27/2023, 12:13 PM
@marvel72 - Garbage woke crap!!! Ugh!!
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/27/2023, 12:15 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Of course they did, it's the way to spread the message.

2.5 million copies in 24 hours, no quicker way to spread it to the masses.

Notice that when they revealed the secret costumes there was no mention of the pride costume.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/27/2023, 12:15 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I'm happy as Larry.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 10/27/2023, 1:20 PM
@marvel72 - IT started by forcing a gay character into everything. Now it's several. By the time my children reach adulthood straight characters will be the minority. 😡🤦
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/27/2023, 1:22 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - 🙄? Cause ...facts?
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 10/27/2023, 1:48 PM
@VictorAlonzo - that non-white , non-straight people exists and interact with everyone else in normal everyday life? Yes that is a fact
CaptainMexico
CaptainMexico - 10/27/2023, 1:50 PM
@marvel72 - @marvel72 - imagine whining about a top shelf spidey game because gay people exist in that universe. And black cat isn’t a lesbo, if anything she walks both sides of the street. I’m cool with black car munching some rug in between sleeping with me in fantasy land. Whiny ass neckbeards.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/27/2023, 2:41 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - why does writing about those facts make his life so miserable?
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/27/2023, 2:45 PM
@CaptainMexico - I haven't got a problem with gay people exist in this universe, I have issues with it being a side mission to get to people together,Do you really need it to be a mission? it's just pandering.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 2:59 PM
@marvel72 - My goodness is this comment a pointless focus on dumb politics.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 3:00 PM
@marvel72 - By that logic anything and everything spreads a message about anything.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 3:01 PM
@CaptainMexico - Top shelf? Nah, I think the story and character work is too messy for that to be the case, to me.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 3:09 PM
@VictorAlonzo - Because one of them simply is an assumption, and also because it means to do so other than to focus on dumb politics. Citing these things as existing doesn't mean anything. if they simply admitted that they didn't like that they were there but didn't pretend they had some high ground on their own, I think that'd be reasonable.

Like this: I am a devout Christian and abide by God and, LORD willing, in such am against the idea of gay marriage being in this and such.

On a far more dumb, not appropriate, petty personal note, I don't like that Black Cat isn't available for Spider-Man anymore.

No political drive whatsoever needed.
CaptainMexico
CaptainMexico - 10/27/2023, 3:13 PM
@dagenspear - you set the bar pretty high, the only other game that comes close or surpasses in terms of story, gameplay and polish is God of War.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/27/2023, 3:26 PM
@VictorAlonzo - It doesn't but When you use facts in "current year" it hurts weak people's feel feels so they lash out.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/27/2023, 3:48 PM
@dagenspear -

🙄🤔...

...so the statement was obstreperously worded?

The political drive seemingly comes into existence, once the colorful responses came via the reply from the Old Dirty Bastard fan.

🤨😐
For instance:

Everything stated by @Marvel72 is true. The act of lesbianism can constitute your status of bisexuality.

One you have engaged in both hetero and sodomite activity, you can successfully title yourself as both, or either.

The rest of the statements are in-gane missions that have similar (a)gende(a)r-driven quests.

Personally, I think it would've been silly to put opposite sex prom proposal missions in any Spider-Man game.

It sounds far more like Final Fantasy, Zelda, or other RPG tasked game play quests.

He said nothing worthy of "miserable life" assumption in my opinion.

I was hoping he'd give clarity on why he would assume such.


BTW, thanks for the input.

VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/27/2023, 3:58 PM
@harryba11zack -

the 🌈 mob be like:






I'm like:









Harry🥜🥜 be like:




BeNice123
BeNice123 - 10/27/2023, 11:29 AM
I disagree, everything works, especially if its made for games. MOVIES, however, Sony is just a mess at making movies work.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/27/2023, 11:30 AM
I think both the Venom and Kraven storylines could serve as good inspirations for the movies.

We've already seen both the Eddie/Venom and Harry/Goblin play out on screen twice already, so this could be a cool way to shake it up for the MCU. Do think the master plan needs to be different from this game.

And Sony can have Kraven hunt down all the villains they're currently making movies with it. It doesn't require Spider-Man, and Kraven already appears to be hinting bad people instead anyway.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 10/27/2023, 11:55 AM
I was hoping for a greater variety of post-story missions. I was able to wrap-up the Hunter, Mysterio, and Symbiote side missions really quickly. They took me like two hours in total.

I’ve already unlocked all the costumes, so now I’m just swinging around the city finding tech crates (anyone know if there’s a trophy to get them all?), but since I already have all the costumes, the tech parts I’m getting from the crates are useless. There’s a handful of crimes that randomly pop up (car chases, exploding gas trucks, symbiote herds) but it always feels like the same three scenarios. I was hoping we’d have little side missions where you could save someone’s cat, deliver pizzas, etc etc.)

I’m hoping this game has a lot of DLC coming.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/27/2023, 12:06 PM
@santoanderson - Sound kind of spoiled, don't we?
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/27/2023, 12:06 PM
Steve Rogers is Captain America, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Superman is Clark Kent, Hugh Jackman is Wolverine, Miles Morales is Miles Morales and Peter Parker is Spider-man, that ain't gonna change, no matter how many times they try to push it. They're better off taking the Nightwing approach and have Miles become his own man instead of just another cheap 2.0
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/27/2023, 1:16 PM
@HashTagSwagg - I've said this from the start, It's like Spider-Gwen isn't Spider-woman. The same goes with Miles Morales he isn't Spider-Man.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/27/2023, 1:25 PM
@marvel72 - we gotta get him a name. How about "Webs"?
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/27/2023, 1:31 PM
@VictorAlonzo - A good start,let me think...

NightWebs like as in NightWing.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/27/2023, 1:35 PM
@marvel72 - didn't think of that. I like Webs or Webz better. The night is too similar to Grayson imo.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 10/27/2023, 2:55 PM
@HashTagSwagg - let's face it, if the MCU doesn't do a far better job of bringing wolverine to the screen, then Fox did with Hugh Jackman, then they will have really [frick]ed up.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 2:57 PM
@HashTagSwagg -
@marvel72 -

Hugh Jackman is Hugh Jackman. He's not Wolverine, because that's not real.

In comics for decades characters have had titles and names. This isn't actually different. Your emotions about it are the only real distinction.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/27/2023, 2:57 PM
@Izaizaiza - After what they did with Xavier, Ralph big boy Bohner and JJ, I can't say I'm excited to see Disney Marvel's take on Hugh Jackman.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/27/2023, 2:58 PM
@dagenspear - You've clearly never seen Hugh Jackman.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 10/27/2023, 3:03 PM
@HashTagSwagg - I'm sure they're take on Hugh Jackman will be comedic in Deadpool 3. I hope, when they eventually introduce their version of wolverine, then it's a lot closer to the comic book version. The Jackman was. Don't get me wrong, in spite of being some of the worst casting and comic book movie history, Jackman gave the role everything he had, and ended up owning it for the fox films. I enjoyed his performances and give props for props are due. That said, a tall, handsome song and dance man is a funny choice for the short, hairy, rugged beast of a fire plug portrayed in the comics.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 3:12 PM
@HashTagSwagg - I know Wolverine is a far shorter person in comics.
Thing94
Thing94 - 10/27/2023, 12:14 PM
Peter Parker IS Spider-Man

Get it right
Origame
Origame - 10/27/2023, 12:48 PM
@Thing94 - even insomniac admitted to this by needing to call miles' side game "miles morales". Toys of him are called miles morales (while Peter Parker toys are just called spiderman). Some miles comics don't even bother putting spiderman in the title and just title it miles morales.

And it's worse with the game. I can call spiderverse miles spiderman because there was a genuine mantle passed as his Peter Parker died. But the games? Why is he spiderman when Peter still has that title and is arguably in his prime as spiderman? Closest thing is he's spiderman when Peter needs to take time for himself.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/27/2023, 2:54 PM
@Thing94 - That's a nothing response. I don't think this article says Peter isn't, do they?
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 10/27/2023, 12:26 PM
Peter Parker is Spider-Man.

Kal-El is Superman / Clark Kent.

Bruce Wayne is Batman.

Alan Scott and Tim Drake are not gay.

Wally West and Iris West are red heads.

Steve Rogers is Captain America. Not Bucky. Not Falcon. Steve.

No matter how Woke that Marvel and DC Comics want to be, these will always be true and their Woke b.s. will always be lies. The reason why they lose money on comics and are now losing even more money in their movies is because of their Woke b.s. lies. One of these days, Disney and WB will remember they're in the business of making money and to do that they have to do what their audience wants them to do, not tell the audience what they must like. One of these days.
OmegaEffect
OmegaEffect - 10/27/2023, 2:16 PM
@HistoryofMatt - 💯
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