THE DEFENDERS' Mike Colter & Finn Jones On How They Could Possibly Team Up With THE AVENGERS

THE DEFENDERS' Mike Colter & Finn Jones On How They Could Possibly Team Up With THE AVENGERS

With The Defenders set to premiere next month, Finn Jones and Mike Colter were asked about crossing-over with The Avengers, and how it could happen. Click here to check out their answers!

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By WaylonJones - Jul 19, 2017 04:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Defenders
When the Marvel Netflix shows premiered, the obvious question was, "Are these characters in the same universe as Captain America and Iron Man?" The answer was a resounding yes, and then the question shifted to just when we might see these characters interact with one another.

It's not expected to happen any time soon, but that hasn't stopped the stars of The Defenders from speculating as to how it could happen. "We’re part of the same universe," Iron Fist actor Finn Jones told SFX via Games Radar. "If there ever was a mash-up between the Avengers and the Defenders, I think it’d be really nice to see the Avengers come to the Netflix world. It’d be way more interesting to see those characters fleshed out the same way as our characters are, rather than just see our characters do some big [frick]ing fight scene! There’s nothing cool about that."

"It would be easier to have them come into our world because it would probably be more believable," chimed in Luke Cage's Mike Colter. "There’s not some huge universal thing going on, some intergalactic thing invading the planet or something like that. Stark’s up in the tower…"

The two talked concepts of where the teams could meet up amongst themselves before agreeing, "Get ’em to Harlem. How good would that be, seeing Tony Stark in Harlem? That’s [frick]ing brilliant! Although it would be cool to see Luke Cage in a different universe, fighting off some dark overlord. That’d be cool. Luke Cage and Iron Fist in space!"

The Defenders will hit Netflix on August 18, 2017.
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IKidYouNotMan
IKidYouNotMan - 7/19/2017, 5:04 PM
Luke Cage in the Avengers is a natural fit.
lvcl
lvcl - 7/20/2017, 7:47 AM
It should be nice the real Defenders members like Dr Strange, Valkyrie and Hulk
Kurne
Kurne - 7/19/2017, 5:10 PM
"We're in the same universe"

They're right, no matter how much you're dying to say they're not
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 7/19/2017, 5:51 PM
@Kurne - yeah, because I trust what an actor says while he is employed. They are lying to us, because that's what they want us to believe.

I'm not dying to say they aren't the same universe, I really wish they were.

but it's just a marketing ploy. They will only possibly crossover if the movies start losing money and they become desperate. Even then, I doubt it.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 7/19/2017, 5:54 PM
A cancelled TV show was referenced in SM:HC. Not one of the ones that are actually supposed to be connected, a cancelled one.
Kurne
Kurne - 7/19/2017, 6:55 PM
@ALostCause - it's not about trusting an actor, the events of the movies are the reasons for a plot each [frick]ing season of these Netflix shows. Even if it's a one way relationship, these shows exist in the MCU. There's no way around it.
MarvelDCAllDay
MarvelDCAllDay - 7/19/2017, 7:19 PM
@Kurne - No one actually thinks they are in different universes but the connections between the two are so shoddy it's an easy joke to make
DerekLake
DerekLake - 7/19/2017, 9:20 PM
@Kurne - The Netflix shows have only ever referred - loosely - to the first Avengers film.
Kurne
Kurne - 7/19/2017, 9:46 PM
@DerekLake - the first season of Daredevil exists because of the battle of NY. Cottonmouth/Diamondback's weapons only exist because of Justin Hammer and the battle of NY. Luke Cage is paralysed by those weapons for like majority of that second half of the season--

That doesn't even matter, episode 6 onwards wouldn't exist without The Avengers or Iron Man 2. Like, what else is there you people need. We all want more connections like actual crossovers, but these shows have already established they exist in the MCU. And who cares if some of the references are vague? It doesn't matter, it's still a legitimate, spoken reference adding to the establishment.
Origame
Origame - 7/20/2017, 2:29 AM
@Kurne - I never said they weren't. Just that they need to do something with that fact or have them retconned as different universes.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 7/20/2017, 8:25 PM
@ALostCause - They're lying to us?..... Ha. Give me a break. The MCU is the MCU is the MCU. Just because Jessica Jones isn't banging Thor does it mean it's not all connected.

"Marketing ploy"? No.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 7/21/2017, 4:57 AM
@Tonic24k - well, ignorance must be bliss.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 7/21/2017, 5:05 AM
@Kurne - sorry I'm late, your message got buried in my inbox.

I've said before, the Netflix shows exist in a version of the mcu, but in the movie universe none of these shows exist. As in:

Universe A- Movies
Universe B- Movies and shows

They haven't confirmed that, but I think it's pretty easy to see that's what is happening.

I'm not trying to ruin people's fun, I just think that it's kinda [frick]ed up that we won't see daredevil, Luke cage, and iron fist in the movies, I feel like the fans should be more pissed about it. They already lack the rights to half of their characters, the fact that they are keeping the street-level heroes out of the movies as well is a slap in the face.

They're [frick]ing with us, and that's annoying. They should just come out and say they are different realities.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 7/21/2017, 10:26 AM
@ALostCause - You can't just make shit up then say people that disagree with your delusion is ignorance. Gtfoh
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 7/21/2017, 10:35 AM
@ALostCause - Also, it's clear you don't understand how this all works if you think it's [frick]ed up and they're just [frick]ing with us. Just stop.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 7/21/2017, 2:39 PM
@Tonic24k - you must fall for a lot of bullshit.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 7/22/2017, 7:49 AM
@ALostCause - Not at all. As a matter of fact, this is me NOT falling for your bullshit. Lames like you think they know what they're talking about and want to be naysayers but end up sounding silly af then two weeks later get proven wrong. Just like these idiots saying Iron Fist wasn't getting a season 2...well look what just happened. Shit like this happens over and over again and yet we still get fools like you not being able to read the patterns or in between the lines. And you've made it quite clear you have zero clue how any of this works. You say it's a huge slap in the face without understanding why it is the way it is. Rendering you truly a lost cause. Go do some research and then get back to me.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 7/22/2017, 8:36 AM
@Tonic24k - dude. if they were connected, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY CONNECT.

but yeah, I'll go "research". moron.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 7/22/2017, 6:56 PM
@ALostCause - They are connected. The references are are loose, yes, I agree, but they're there and that's what they're limited to for now. You can call me a moron all you want, but everyone that knows how this actually works would say you're the moron here.
Menks123
Menks123 - 7/19/2017, 5:14 PM
Does anyone kind of get sick of hearing about being "grounded" or "realistic" when these actors, directors, writers, etc talk about CBMs? I do understand the point, you want to be able to connect with characters like Peter Parker for example, but I personally don't want my CBMs to be grounded power wise and such.

My only problem you can say, with Nolan's take on Batman (which I loved, do not take that the wrong way).....just want a human at peak strength and will able to find a way to beat up fricking Superman

Mini rant over.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 7/19/2017, 5:25 PM
Here's one, Thanos.
Aangatang
Aangatang - 7/19/2017, 5:33 PM
Man, atleast a cameo as extras in the background or something
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 7/19/2017, 5:39 PM
Luke Cage and Iron Fist in space?

I would watch that. Anyone else want to see that? Plot ideas?
Parker00
Parker00 - 7/19/2017, 5:42 PM
I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is responsible for the confusion over whether Netflix shows are officially MCU or not. You have Agents, starring a man whose death was responsible for the unification of The Avengers now alive and running his own team. They deal with things that are related to what comes from the films despite everybody involved with the films saying Coulson's dead. The Marvel Netflix universe is supposed to be directly attached to the MCU and yet, it seems like nobody running the show is interested in pulling the trigger and making that glaringly official. I just don't get it.....
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 7/19/2017, 5:51 PM
Hopefully something like this can happen if Perlmutter is fired. If the Defenders don't appear in the films I'd love Spider-Man or Cap to make an appearance in the Defenders.
McGee
McGee - 7/19/2017, 5:53 PM
I'm not the only one that wants to see Mike Colter make love to Finn Jones.

*looks at Ruthless*
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/19/2017, 5:58 PM
@McGee - Yeah... Ruthless... guh... I mean... come on.

Me:
Nightmare
Nightmare - 7/19/2017, 6:50 PM
@McGee -
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 7/19/2017, 5:55 PM
"It would be easier to have them come into our world because it would probably be more believable,"

Thor and the Hulk coming to Harlem to deal with Diamondback is more believable than the Avengers recruiting every known powered individual to fight a huge threat?
Origame
Origame - 7/20/2017, 2:34 AM
@BIGBMH - Yeah. I also like how Finn said it would be more interesting to have those characters from the movie fleshed out in the Netflix side of things as opposed to the Netflix characters appearing in a movie for a fight scene. Sorry Finn. I saw your spin off of Lemony Snickett I dub "a series of directionless events" and I'd rather just watch a fun dumb action scene than what you consider drama.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/19/2017, 5:57 PM
This is exactly the kind of thing Cage and Danny would say in the old-school comics. "Come on down to Harlem, Iron Man."

Feige getting full control over the movies was probably a really good thing long term for the movies, but it'd be nice if Loeb worked directly under him to do the live-action TV stuff. I'm pretty sure if Feige felt like he had final say in the TV side (and they weren't rushing too much stuff out all at once with a potential resulting quality drop), then Feige would see it as a storytelling asset, rather than a tangent.

Feige's been talking about bringing back one-shots. But the TV space is the perfect place for that kind of worldbuilding, small-scale stuff.
captquirk
captquirk - 7/19/2017, 6:19 PM
@Spock0Clock - Seriously? Could you really see Iron Man going to Harlem? First scene, Stark lands in Harlem. Next scene, Stark is up on blocks and coke bottles, and his armor is stripped down.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2017, 6:44 PM
@SpockOClock - according to Loeb he and Feige talk to make sure they don't step on each other's feet when it comes to using certain characters and developing storylines
HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 7/19/2017, 8:36 PM
@BlackBeltJones - hate to bother ya, bud, but would you mind pointing me in the direction of an article where Loeb states that? I really hope that's the case because I fear the reality-ending scale of Infinity War might break continuity with the Netflix stuff if The Defenders aren't incorporated.

I'd search myself but... i am so so stoned right now
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2017, 8:43 PM
@HeraldNumber7 - I got you


"We certainly communicate with each other in terms of what we’re doing and what we have planned and the characters that we’re using and where it’s all going,” Loeb says of working with Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige..."


http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/13/defenders-marvel-cinematic-universe-crossover-jeph-loeb/
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/19/2017, 11:15 PM
@BlackBeltJones - Yeah, but I think it would just be a lot smoother if Feige was just Loeb's boss. The MCU is the guy's baby, and he's understandably protective of it.

I compared Feige to George Lucas the other day (or someone else did and I was agreeing with them, I can't remember). And Feige definitely plays nicer with Loeb than Lucas did with basically anyone else (including Lucas himself). But there still is that awkward reality that Loeb got put in charge of a big chunk of the MCU without Feige being the decider on that, and even now he goes off and does his own thing that maybe doesn't fit with what Feige wants to do.

I mean, it's a remarkably consistent Frankenstein monster they've made together and it holds together better than it has any right to, but the stitches are there for all to see. And I just wish I could find a way to connect the dots for Feige that the TV stuff could be a whole new avenue to engage and entertain people.
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