ECHO Earns Mostly Positive Reviews But Scores A Dubious Record On Rotten Tomatoes

@Urubrodi - Many of their shows are worse than Iron Fist.

@Urubrodi -

@Shmokey20 - What about Quantumania?

@Usernametaken - Bad, but better than She-Hulk & Secret Invasion

@Origame - Watch Echo. So you can have an actual opinion on it. It was a good show and for some reason if something is even slightly less than amazing the small minded register that as "bad".

@Variant - dude, you thought the daredevil fight was on par with anything in the Netflix series 🤣

And if I saw it, you'd just say I'm supporting something I don't like.

There's no winning with you.

@Variant - "felt" being the key term. And I've seen those fight scenes too. They didn't have punches that missed by a mile.

Also, I do go on anime sites. I've also been here talking positively about godzilla minus one. Stop acting like I have to enjoy everything.

And no, the difference between a free thinker and a troll is a troll is there to purposefully ruffle some jimmies. I'm not. And no, saying there's a limit to negativity is the exact opposite of free thinking. Because of that key term "free".

@Variant - 1) in other words, shut up. F@#$ off, you free speech hating idiot. I've given you your space. Seriously, I completely stopped commenting to you, I only do so when you comment to me. The only thing here is you being bothered by my comments. Again, block me if it bothers you this much. Why is that so hard for you to get? I'm not gonna stop saying how I feel to please you.

2) but say that you liked onions, but every store selling onions only kept selling a type of onion you don't like. Is it really a matter of just shutting up and not eating onions?

And don't give me anything about "everyone else liking this onion" after phase 5 has been a complete flop outside of guardians 3.

3) well good thing these ARE my opinions and I'm not just echoing what I hear from others. Why are you assuming these aren't my thoughts? I may call you a simp, but a simp by choice. But nah, apparently me not liking the current mcu means I must be just parroting others 🙄

@Origame - Once again, hes an idiot. I watched this entire thing. Nothing he says is true about this total piece of shit.

@Origame - 1. You continue to fail to understand my position. I've said over and over and over again that I advocate for free speech and healthy debate. But free speech is NOT absolute. You can't openly demonstrate hate speech can you? (That's an example, not what I'm saying you do, so don't give me a whole paragraph about it.) So this idea that you can just say WHATEVER you want without consequence is just entitled bullshit. If you conduct yourself decently, you will get decent responses. If you conduct yourself like a troll who devotes their time to spouting negativity as frequently as you do, you will get negative responses. All while building a bad reputation. Duh.

2. Seems to me you'd be the guy that kept going back to the place that didn't like to try and force them to do what you want just to get your way... Then call the patrons of that deli that they're all simps for liking something you don't. Meanwhile, I'd realize there are a ton of other places to go to that DID serve the onions I liked and let people that liked the other deli enjoy it. You know...decent human behavior.

Yes, Phase 5 is rocky right now. But it's not nearly as dramatic as you make it seem. AM3 didn't do well and the reviews deemed it pretty mid. Which I would agree; it was a decent film but some of its flaws brought it down. It still wasn't a BAD movie. Mid and Bad are not the same thing and this is where you don't seem to be capable of differentiating.

The Marvels on the other hand didn't do well in the box office but it reviewed mostly well. And I would agree, it was a good movie! Beyond this are the tv shows. And although Secret Invasion fell short of expectations, it wasn't a "flop". A flop is losing a studio money. Are you able to show me how SI did this? At any rate, you're also conveniently leaving out Loki S2 which was a major success. "What If" S2 is hard to gauge because it's a cartoon that kind of is canon kind of isn't. It reviewed well...but we don't know how much "money it made". And I watched it. It was good.

Then on to Echo. Yes, it was a good show that didn't flop by any stretch of the imagination. And btw, there's a video out there that shows the OG Daredevil hallway fight scene in bad quality and points out how a lot of the hits could be seen not connecting. It just goes to show that there's a very ignorant bias right now where certain type of people get off on nitpicking whatever they can just because it's the trend. Hold these things to the SAME standard and it shows just how right I am about the fight scenes feeling the same.

Anyway, Echo was good and reviewed well. Another Phase 5 project that didn't flop. So once again, your assessment is very flawed and dishonest. Saying "Phase 5 has been a complete flop outside of guardians 3" is just factually untrue as I've pointed out. This is why you are dishonest and can't be taken seriously.

3. They're not your opinions because you haven't seen the show! You can't have an opinion about something you haven't seen. Echoing what others are saying is the only thing you can do. What are you talking about?

And I DO NOT care if you like something or not. I merely challenge your awful assessments and call you out for how badly your reasonings are. If you actually formulated an intelligent reasoning, there would be some basis for amicable debate. But you don't. You feel the need to jump into every single MCU article possible to be a nuisance.

Opinions are one thing. EXCESSIVE negativity is another. Some day you've got to stop acting like a whiney brat.

@Variant - 1) actions speak louder than words. You've come after me time and time again for being "too negative". The fact you have to make a mark of how negative you can be proves you don't care for free thinking. And you do this to so many people who criticize specifically the mcu.

2) God forbid, as a customer I want something I want.

And I'm not insulting people who like it. Redfury can attest to that. I call people like YOU a simp because you can't just let us have our complaints.

And dude, literally everything phase 5 has been a failure financially. Ant man 3 bombed, secret invasion bombed, the marvels bombed, we don't have the viewership numbers for what if season 2 or echo, but considering even secret invasion couldn't get people invested I'm not holding hope. Literally the only success was guardians 3. And that barely broke even. And all you're doing here is trying to justify sh!t and make me say it's not bad. Well, that ain't happening.

Also, yes, at times the punches didn't quite connect. But it wasn't most of the time. And the fights weren't slow af without some explanation like the characters were beaten half to death.

3) were you excited for echo before it came out? Guess what? That's an opinion.

Again, block me if you don't want to hear from me. I'm not forcing you to listen to my opinion.

@Variant - 1) I've expressed it in a wide variety of ways. You only don't come at me with sh!t if I say something positive. And no, it's not trolling because it's how I actually feel and I'm not trying to trigger you. If I did, I'd come to you with these points. I don't.

And shut the f@#$ up about excess. You don't see me say anything to you about being excessively positive. So no, shut up about me being excessively negative. Especially since you're always trying to counter my actual points. You very clearly would still have a problem if it were just one comment every now and again. Especially since you had that history of going down the comments section to b!tch to EVERYONE about their negative comments. Even if they aren't known for being negative to marvel. You're full of sh!t.

2) but according to you I don't have that choice. If I don't buy it then according to you I don't have the right to have an opinion on it. Then if I do buy it I need to shut up about it even though I spent my own hard earned money on it. Again, f@#$ off.

3) no, I'm not. Literally right in there I mentioned guardians 3 as being successful. You're taking one line completely out of the overall context to make me sound unreasonable on the situation.

And dude, why do you think phase 5 did so bad right off the bat? Even with ant man 3, which is setting up the Kang stuff that was hyped up in phase 4. It's because phase 4 soured people on the franchise.

Loki season 2 was well liked, but also one of their worst performing seasons.

And no, I'm not the one with bias. I have time and time again admitted when the mcu did good in phases 4 and 5. You, however, can't admit it's ever been bad. You even claimed secret invasion was good 🤣

@Variant - 1) as much as excessive negativity can be. Especially if you're completely avoiding and actively shutting down criticism done to a major corporation like disney.

2) dude, the fact you think they shouldn't be shows how socially inept you are. If someone goes into a funeral purely positive, I'm assuming that guy is a serial killer. Because that sh!t ain't natural.

3) all that sh!t over not praising every mcu movie currently out EVEN WHEN I PRAISED SEVERAL!

And dude, positivity bias is a thing as well. And it's also a dangerous precedent. I'd much rather bring down the mood of people like you than let a company like disney go unchecked like you do.

@Variant - 1) you really don't see the problem with blindly accepting everything a company shovels down your throat? Especially since, in the case of disney, it doesn't just extend to quality and also goes into actively insulting the audience.

And you've contributed cookie cutter criticism that doesn't amount to anything because, out of all 33 films and however f@#$ing many shows and specials there are, you like them all and support them all. As I keep asking you, why would they care what you don't like if you end up liking all the shows and movies, support them financially, and will even defend it? You offer no reason for them to change.

2) well, so did Ted bundy. And that guy is hardly someone you'd claim is all that socially literate. And that's assuming any of that is even true. And I'm sorry, I know people married with kids. They don't care someone is talking bad about a movie online. Certainly not enough to write novel length comments about why they should stop.

But as for the funeral point, the point I'm making is there are always a time and place to be negative. A forum discussing a movie you don't like? Yeah, that's the time to be negative. And where did I say you couldn't be positive at all at a funeral? Of course you can be. But if being positive is the only emotion you're feeling, that's simply unnatural. Negativity is a natural reaction to death. Namely someone close to you. And being negative, getting sad, maybe yelling a bit and crying, are all important parts of moving on with your life. Something I really shouldn't have to explain to a grown a$$ man. Ffs, even kids are being taught this with movies like inside out. The literal point of that movie is its not natural to just force yourself to be positive the whole time and to let yourself be sad, angry, scared, or disgusted. You should see it. It's from your favorite company 🤣

3) well if you cut me off right there then yes it sounds bad. But I'm not saying I want to make people feel bad. I'm saying I want to actively call out disney for it's sh!t products and even sh!ttier reaction to criticism. I don't mind if the words I say hurt the fee fees of people like you, because if you're genuinely bothered by someone being negative about a f@#$ing movie you had nothing to do with, then quite frankly you deserve that feeling. Grow up. I've had to take care of kids afraid to go to school because they think a crazed maniac is just gonna burst in and shoot everyone. Another who doesn't know how they're gonna eat over the weekend since they rely on the school's meal plan to eat. There are bigger problems in the world than someone not liking echo 🤣

And again, if it really bothers you, just block me. Again, I don't come after you. I don't @ you. And I don't comment to you unless you comment first. It really shouldn't be that hard for you to do the same courtesy and just scroll down when you see my name.

Also, talking about my mental state when I'm autistic. F@#$ off.

@MadThanos - I literally watched the first min of ep 1 and the mid credits of ep 5. Time well spent. Ftr- I liked her character in Daredevil. I still felt she would be best in small doses... and that's how she will remain for me.