Marvel Studios Has Reportedly Cut ECHO Down To 5 Episodes; MS. MARVEL Season 2 Rumored To Be In The Works

Marvel Studios Has Reportedly Cut ECHO Down To 5 Episodes; MS. MARVEL Season 2 Rumored To Be In The Works

Marvel Studios is rumoured to have scrapped an entire episode of Echo ahead of its 2024 launch, while we're also hearing that a second season of Ms. Marvel is already in the works. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Sep 23, 2023 04:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Echo

There are many characters Marvel Studios could build a Disney+ TV series around, but the decision to move forward with Echo has seen fans question why Maya Lopez was made a priority. 

Alaqua Cox was undeniably fantastic in Hawkeye and we had fun spending time with the character; however, there was nothing in that series which suggested Echo needed to take centre stage in a solo adventure. Yes, it will reportedly set the stage for Daredevil: Born Again, but an entire series about Maya seems like a somewhat extravagant way to flesh out The Kingpin's past!

Excitement for the series appears muted, possibly explaining Marvel Studios' plan to release every episode simultaneously. While obviously not confirmed, the prevailing opinion is that this approach suggests there are concerns about maintaining interest in Echo on a weekly basis. 

While it's previously been reported that the show will consist of six episodes, a reliable scooper now claims it's been cut down to five. Why? Well, it appears those claims about issues with the series were correct and an entire episode has been scrapped due to "pacing issues."

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

We recently learned that, instead of debuting on November 29, the show will instead launch on Disney+ early next year. 

In other small screen MCU news, it's said Ms. Marvel season 2 is already in the works. This isn't overly surprising, particularly as The Marvels feels like it could be used as a stepping stone to bigger things for Kamala Khan in this shared world (we need to learn more about her being a mutant, for starters). 

We'll see what happens, but it's going to be interesting to see what sort of role Marvel Studios plays on Disney+ moving forward, especially in the midst of spending cutbacks and complaints of superhero fatigue. 

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Order66
Order66 - 9/23/2023, 6:04 PM
A deaf super hero show is cool if you do it right.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 9/23/2023, 7:42 PM
I doubt many people would take either pill
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/24/2023, 1:43 PM
@Ryguy88 - I'd take the red over the blue but neither are on my list of shows I want to see on Disney Plus.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/23/2023, 7:44 PM
Cut or condensed?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/24/2023, 4:32 AM
@DrReedRichards - Yeah, cutting a whole episode doesn't seem workable. I'm guessing they mean condensed.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/24/2023, 5:22 AM
@ObserverIO -

My thoughts exactly.

On another not, it really is weird how most of the commenters here seem to be folks who are trying to either undermine the show before it's released or feign indifference about it.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 9/23/2023, 8:09 PM
I imagine Josh was counting his Disney bribe money when writing something so ridiculous as this:

"Alaqua Cox was undeniably fantastic in Hawkeye."
StSteven
StSteven - 9/23/2023, 10:56 PM
@HistoryofMatt - Well, to be fair, she is deaf and has a prosthetic limb in real life and this was her first acting role, so compared to all the other deaf physically handicapped actresses in Hollywood doing fighting scenes and the like, she performed pretty well. Plus, I think that her handicaps helped to sell her character's handicaps, as opposed to someone who plays an actress with those same handicaps but doesn't really have them in real life.

Personally I found her portrayal to be really good given what she had to work with (which was not particularly multi-dimensional), so let's see what she can do with something where she's able to "breathe" as an actress. If she (and her show) sucks, then it sucks. But let's she what she can do. She might just blow us away.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 9/24/2023, 4:53 AM
@StSteven - She didn't blow us away rhe first time. Underwhelm us? Yes.
StSteven
StSteven - 9/24/2023, 2:27 PM
@GeneralZod - Yeah, I didn't find myself particularly blown last time, either here or away. I'm hoping that Kevin & Co. have seen something from her that we haven't so far and that's what is compelling them to put out the show, or if nothing else that it somehow plays an important component in the overall story that they're trying to tell with DD and the other street level heroes. I would think that one or both of those are the case otherwise I would have thought that they would have axed the show as part of their supposed return to quality over quantity and "Echo" was announced during Chapek's whole "Gimme more content now and I don't care about quality or connectivity! Now! Now! Now!" thing.

But, hey, only time will tell, so we'll see.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/23/2023, 8:51 PM
Why make a show that has 5 24 minute episodes? Let me tell you why, most of the Disney shows were old script treatments from movies. Covid happened, and they needed to make the app to make up for closed parks. They started with what they already had, taking first drafts and basically making them shows. The pacing and story beats are obvious. Daredevil seemed like the first ACTUAL SHOW they made. Hour long and what 20+ episodes? This is why the strike has screwed them, they scraped the bottom of the barrel lmao
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 9/23/2023, 9:48 PM
@bobevanz - It says 5 hour-long episodes, but do go off. 😁
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 9/23/2023, 10:38 PM
Now to whittle it down to zero episodes
Starr24777
Starr24777 - 9/23/2023, 10:52 PM
While Echo was interesting IMHO,a solo series was unnecessary. Instead, I would have done a Kate Bishop series with Echo guest starring in an episode or two. Perhaps even have Colleen Wong or Misty Knight make a cameo appearance.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 9/23/2023, 11:40 PM
@Starr24777 - Apparently, Disney/MARVEL really, really, really wanted to tap into the vast comic-book fanatic/teenage-girl demographic. Hence, the world now and forever more has an "ECHO" series as part of its permanent history. 🫤
Origame
Origame - 9/23/2023, 11:52 PM
Makes sense. They clearly have zero faith in it. They're maintaining dropping the whole series on the same day, even though they're struggling when it comes to new content thanks to the strike. It makes no sense outside of the context of no faith.
Toxin2480
Toxin2480 - 9/24/2023, 12:25 AM
I don’t understand why or how would this be news.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/24/2023, 1:39 AM

They could dump both series, and no one would care.

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/24/2023, 4:36 AM
Ms. Marvel should probably be a movie rather than a show. Ms. Marvel Season 1 would have worked a lot better as a movie, imo.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 9/24/2023, 7:03 AM
A Kate Bishop show would just be season 2 of Hawkeye.
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 9/24/2023, 10:50 AM
Echo was going to be so good that they cut episodes...
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/24/2023, 1:48 PM
Another two Disney Plus shows I can skip.

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