LOKI Star Tom Hiddleston Shares His Thoughts On Season 2 News: "We Are In Deep, Deep, Deep Discussions"

@bkmeijer -
I hope to see Doctor Doom as Kang's rival. I can even imagine Doom using the Avengers. Doom is able to manipulate the situation to defeat Kang and he is able to use the Avengers as pieces in his game.

@Repian - that would be cool. Wouldn't be surprised if Doom is gonna be the over-arching villain of the next saga in where he uses and manipulates, Kang, even Beyonder and Silver Surfer to further his own means.

@SKetCH -
"My point is that we've been getting exactly what we wanted, we just didn't realize it because we wanted more than we deserved."

Frick right off with that, lol.

WV's Agatha wound up being a mess, not a mentor to Wanda nor an intriguing character. Her motivation is flimsy and that entire series is just to set-up the idea of Scarlet Witch getting more powerful and getting tempted by chaos magic - and they even failed to do Scarlet Witch's character development right, now the fanbase is split on whether she should be a hero or a villain in Doctor Strange MoM and the lack of consequences and story issues prompted those involved to comment. Not to mention how they wasted an episode literally d*cking around with the audience and the desperate attempts to keep people watching with cliffhanger after cliffhanger being the only moments that progressed the plot up until Episode 7.

TF&TWS continued the trend of trying desperately to make Sharon Carter happen, and it once again failed. Many hoped that John Walker would be developed better and have more interactions with Sam & Bucky - but none of that was developed, they hated him from the start so now the Sam Vs U.S.Agent fight when that eventually happens is going to feel hollow. The main threat of the series is killed off by someone the characters don't care about who is not an antagonist to our heroes, but actually helps them to get what she wants. Not to mention the episode wasted on a boat.

Loki everyone hoped for timeline or multiverse shenanigans, the second Lady Loki was introduced at the end of Episode 1 everyone expected her to be the main antagonist/conflict and she was. It had very little twists or turns, the whole 'Wizard Of Oz' vibe the show had going on in early episodes gave the game away in regards to the Time Keepers and the idea of a reveal of someone behind the scenes of the TVA - which naturally due to early casting was going to wind up being Kang. Not to mention how they completely wasted the cliffhanger of Episode 2 where the multiverse is unleashed, had Episode 3 as filler which developed neither Loki or Lady Loki and then used the exact same 'multiverse being unleashed' cliffhanger for Episode 6.

The problem is not that everything was predictable, episodes were wasted on exposition or filler that did not contribute to the story. WandaVision only set-up Doctor Strange 2 and nothing else. TF&TWS tried to do social commentary, failed and then tried to set-up a Captain America 4 plot but due to Walker being beaten easily he's not going to be considered a threat when he shows up in Captain America 4 (Betting he gets killed off in the opening like Crossbones in Civil War). Meanwhile Loki could have delved more into variants, but pushed it all to Episode 5 and then proceeded to have Episode 6 exist solely to set-up the multiverse, something it already did in Episode 1 & 2.

"But we should be thankful for everything that we have at the level of quality It's being dished out in"

These shows delivered what was expected. People wanted Mephisto not only because he was in the comic the series was based on, but it'd show Marvel was willing to take risks.

Everything that has happened with the shows has been very formulaic and lacks risks existing primarily to set-up movies that did not need them to be set-up. We did not need WandaVision to set-up the idea that Wanda might go nuts after losing Vision and use her powers dangerously resulting in her encountering Doctor Strange. We did not need TF&TWS to set-up the idea Falcon would take-up the mantle of Captain America. We did not need Loki to set-up that the events of Endgame would result in a multiverse due to time meddling.

This is not helped by Black Widow now releasing and also feeling formulaic and lacking risks. Shang Chi and Spider-man 3 are the only risks they have, but nothing is really riding on those working. If Shang Chi under-performs they can just roll him into an MCU team-up or Disney+ show. If Spider-man 3 fails they can just use the multiverse or the events of the movie to do a Miles Morales trilogy to clean the slate.

I want to see Marvel develop these shows as shows, take risks and not just use them as unnecessary teasers for future installments. None of these shows end in a satisfying way, all of them tease consequences that don't happen or development that we'll see in a later film.

@SKetCH - I remember the WandaVision people playing dumb with statements like, "Why would anyone think we were teasing Mephisto?" and "I'm not even sure who Mephisto even is."

All this denial despite the fact that WandaVision is based on stories that heavily feature Mephisto. I guess they must have skipped those parts of the comics 🙄

@Unguviolet - less about risk more about a lack of creative freedom. Gunn has already said as much.