SECRET INVASION Features Some Big Returns But How Long [SPOILER] Been A Skrull? We May Have An Answer

SECRET INVASION Features Some Big Returns But How Long [SPOILER] Been A Skrull? We May Have An Answer

Two key characters make their return in today's Secret Invasion finale, but there are some compelling clues about how long one of them has secretly been a Skrull imposter. Find more details right here...

By JoshWilding - Jul 26, 2023 04:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Secret Invasion

In the closing moments of today's Secret Invasion finale, Gi'ah frees the humans who were being held in New Skrullos after Gravik is defeated. 

We see a few familiar faces who have appeared as Skrull imposters throughout the series, but get confirmation that Everett Ross is alive and well when he's woken up. He doesn't appear to be too shocked by what's happening, so was likely taken shortly before the events of this series began. 

It's obviously a relief to know the former CIA agent will be back to continue fighting the good fight, particularly after Black Panther: Wakanda Forever set the stage for him to take on a very different role in the MCU. However, Ross is definitely shocked to see Rhodey there. 

He asks the shaken Colonel how long he's been there, but when Rhodey attempts to get out of the Skrull contraption, he's unable to walk properly. Gi'ah helps him and mentions that he's been "held hostage for a long time."

Rhodey never speaks and this is the last time we see him in the episode, but both his physical condition and the fact he's wearing a hospital gown appear to confirm how long he's been there. 

Yes, Rhodey has seemingly been a Skrull since the events of Captain America: Civil War

In that movie, the real War Machine was injured during the movie's airport battle and we later saw him in that same hospital gown having an MRI. If he was switched out then, it means the Rhodey at the end of Civil War was an imposter, as was the version in Avengers: Infinity War, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Endgame, and The Falcon and The Winter Soldier.

This means he never got to fully regain the use of his legs courtesy of Stark Tech and, more importantly, that he doesn't know Tony Stark is dead. We have to believe this will all be picked up on in Armor Wars, though it's a real shame we never got to see his reaction to learning he's spent the better part of a decade on ice. 

Marvel Studios can always choose to explain away that hospital gown, of course, but for now, it looks like there are some exciting stories ahead for this character. 

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TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 7/26/2023, 4:38 AM
@PlusUltra - Skrhodey radicalized Gravik not the other way around.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/26/2023, 4:37 AM
But why would they have simmed Rhodey in Civil War if Gravik never turned against Fury until after the Blip? Doesn’t make much sense
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/26/2023, 4:43 AM
@PlusUltra - After this finale, a lot doesn't make sense about this show now, haha. I guess it's supposed to be an indication the Skrulls were plotting for a long time (and it makes Rhodey more interesting in Armor Wars) but looking back at all his post-Civil War appearances, I don't see anything that made his worth switching. Feels like a retcon for retcons sake.

Maybe we'll learn more about what he was up to down the line, but man, 2023's second MCU let-down. At least we're not in DCEU territory of awfulness, I guess.
SpiderFanMan
SpiderFanMan - 7/26/2023, 5:29 AM
@JoshWilding - People just complain because they have nothing better to do
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/26/2023, 6:25 AM
@SpiderFanMan - LORD willing, some complain about people complaining for as not much of a reason.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2023, 6:34 AM
@SpiderFanMan - Is this not a comic book movies web site with a forum for people to talk about movies? That means some people will tall about things they don't like.

It's funny that complaining about something means the person has nothing better to do, but giving praise means what? That the person DOES have better things to do? Yet....here they are, still talking about it on this site. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/26/2023, 9:07 AM
@JoshWilding

You gave Quantumania 3.5 stars and called this show SLJ’s magnum opus after 2 episodes 💀
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/26/2023, 9:11 AM
tmp3
tmp3 - 7/26/2023, 10:07 AM
@regularmovieguy - Josh has some of the worst media literacy for an RT-certified critic lol. It’s kind of shocking his reviews are even allowed
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/26/2023, 10:33 AM
@regularmovieguy - So? As I explained in my review, Quantumania was an average movie with some fantastic performances. And, based on the content I was given to review for Secret Invasion, those first two episodes a) were fantastic and b) SLJ's best work as Nick Fury. If you're trying to catch me out by throwing star ratings and headlines at me, not sure what you're hoping to achieve beyond proving you don't look any deeper than those things.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/26/2023, 10:47 AM
@tmp3

When you see the average blockbuster release has something like 400-500 reviews you know RT is oversaturated. And Josh absolutely falls into the kind of opinion that is begging to be quoted in marketing material. It feels so phony.
tmp3
tmp3 - 7/26/2023, 10:51 AM
@regularmovieguy - Yeah, Josh is like an even less literate Armond White, with even worse writing skills lmfao. Seeing him throw his weight around here is embarrassing considering he’s by far the weakest writer (arguably the only bad one lol)
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/26/2023, 11:00 AM
@JoshWilding

Lmao... dude, you're an editor on this site. Not me. I'm not going to be TyrantBossMedia and tell you how to do your job. I'll just say 1.) your reviews don't feel genuine, and 2.) they read like you're trying to be noticed by a marketing department w/ ridiculous hyperbole. You really think the first two episodes of Secret Invasion (two completely pedestrian episodes of television) blew you away enough to say: "wow, this is amazing."
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/26/2023, 2:43 PM
@JoshWilding - I'd say both the first 2 episodes were neither fantastic or his best work..
Vigor
Vigor - 7/26/2023, 7:35 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I know I wouldn't stick around a place where I didn't care about the topic. That's why its odd seeing complainers
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2023, 10:39 PM
@Vigor - But I think people DO care. I know I do. I want the MCU to be better than we've been getting. I know anytime I'm here complaining about the MCU, or how it's losing money, or a certain project was bad, it isn't because I'm a hater. It's because I can recognize the actual state of the franchise. And I don't want to see it this way. But this is one of the few places to talk about these things.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/28/2023, 2:15 PM
@Vigor - Maybe some people do care. Maybe that's why some of them are complaining.
Vigor
Vigor - 7/28/2023, 2:45 PM
@dagenspear - for sure. Some of them. But I've been here long enough to see that that when something is done well, some of the complainers won't relent
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/28/2023, 5:32 PM
@Vigor - Some may disagree on what's done well.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 7/26/2023, 4:41 AM
So that immediately means nothing:

FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/26/2023, 4:49 AM
@DrReedRichards - They left it ambiguous to gauge fan reaction, so they won’t go through with this crap
Polaris
Polaris - 7/26/2023, 5:29 AM
@PlusUltra - hope so
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/26/2023, 4:46 AM
I kind of hate that.
Kurne
Kurne - 7/26/2023, 5:02 AM
I have no idea what people want anymore if they're complaining about Rhodey being a skrull.

People are asking for bigger stakes/reveals from this show. Rhodey being a skrull is a pretty minor reveal as is IMO, but it's still one of those very reveals that's meant to be a result of this whole thing. Yet people are still mad.

If people are complaining about Rhodey being a skrull (both because he wasn't there for Tony's death and that he's not big enough of a character), I can't imagine the outrage if it was a bigger character (like Thor, Hawkeye, etc) or a smaller character (like Darcy, Selvig, etc).
TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 7/26/2023, 5:13 AM
@Kurne - There's no figuring it. People just Mad about everything these days. Quixoticly, more often than not they tend to be mad about Opposite things simultaneously.
Origame
Origame - 7/26/2023, 5:30 AM
@Kurne - so by your logic, we should be happy for a nonsensical reveal?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/26/2023, 6:23 AM
@Kurne -


Rhodey being a skrull isn't bigger stakes, because this show does barely anything with it. It even never really addresses the implications of this on Rhodey. Give me skrull Sharon to explain why she's basically a villain now in Falcon & The Winter Soldier. 1 person is a skrull that we know well enough so far and that's it. That's not terrible, but it doesn't do a lot for this show.

Thor and Hawkeye are movie and show characters. It'd cut character development and not make a lot of sense for the emotional structure of their characters in their stories, as is. If they were going to make a big character this, planning it out and setting it up, in prior shows is a strong starting point to me, so reveals can have more weight and it have meaning with the reveal in the story they're telling. And not feel like a thing happening just now.

@TheIronDuck -

Dismissing people because they don't tow the company line on this stuff and accept it with no criticism or questions or regards for character and story meaning and weight and consistency, doesn't help your argument.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2023, 6:43 AM
@TheIronDuck - Have you been keeping tabs on the people that are mad about "opposite" things? I imagine you mean they are contradicting themselves with their opinions? Are you sure it's the same people saying they want one thing but then getting mad when that thing happens?

Fandoms aren't a hive mind. It's far more likely that people complaining about one thing are not the same people complaining about the opposite thing.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/26/2023, 9:46 AM
@Kurne - The complains comes from HOW LONG he has been a skrull, him being a skrull in Endgame is a big deal.
LukeCage2155
LukeCage2155 - 7/26/2023, 12:43 PM
@Kurne - Preach.
Vigor
Vigor - 7/26/2023, 7:30 PM
@Kurne - you're speaking way too much logic for this site
Vigor
Vigor - 7/26/2023, 7:31 PM
@dagenspear - the repercussions of Rhodey being a skrull will get explored in Armor Wars. That's the hook
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/26/2023, 8:52 PM
@Vigor - The issue is we don't know the breadth. And I don't know if that's a real hook or not.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/28/2023, 2:01 AM
@Vigor - Making up sides with which to pin the "mad" title on isn't logic.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 7/28/2023, 7:23 AM
@Kurne - The zeitgeist has spoken, and this show was "VERY BAD" so everyone's got to line up behind that. All these free thinkers, just going along with whatever other people on the internet are saying.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 7/28/2023, 7:24 AM
@dagenspear - I was not aware that I was toeing the company line by [checks notes] enjoying a TV show. Good to know.
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