Venom Movie has Writers!

Venom Movie has Writers!

Sony has decided to officially go with a Venom spin-off movie. Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese (the writing team for "Zombieland") are set to write the script according to SciFi Wire. The writers claim that they are under strict orders of secrecy.

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By Colt - Apr 09, 2009 02:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Venom
Source: comicvine

The writers also say that they are big fans of Venom (Sam Raimi said from the beginning that he wasn't). They've been doing research recently to make sure they get it right.

"We read [Venom] growing up, but we were not experts," Reese said. "We certainly know the mythology of Venom, but went back and learned more when it became clear that we could actually get this job."
They also understand that there is a bit of pressure. Venom has some serious fans. They're going to have high expectations. A lot of people weren't happy with how he came out in Spider-Man 3.

Since they are keeping things secret for now, there's no word on the plot or whether this is a direct spin-off from Spider-Man 3. Venom apparently died in that movie. We'll have to wait and see whether or not his story will continue from there or if they'll just re-boot his character.

Which direction do you think they should go? Can Venom hold his own movie? Who should he be going up against (we can assume Spidey won't be involved). Should Topher Grace reprise the role or should someone new take over? Do you want to see a Venom movie?

What i think: as for topher grace, i think an easy way to reboot the venom character while staying canon to the films.. is to recast venom with someone playing eddie brock sr. I mean i dont recall eddie brock adding jr to his name in the comics, but he did every time in spider-man 3... so why not have his father, played by someone a bit bulkier such as kurt russell, return to take vengeance for his fallen son.

a lot of people point out how dr. connors still has a piece of the symbiote, so eddie can steal it from him. as for spider-man appearing, it would be good to have a smaller supporting role by spidey.. though anymore than that and it might as well be another spider-man movie. im not sure if tobey mcguire would do anything less than lead role, but it would be a nice thought.

the only storyline i can derive with more venom and less spidey would be if carnage were the villian. and that would be something id be afraid to see them tampering with...

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Pumchavas28
Pumchavas28 - 4/9/2009, 2:57 PM
I like the idea of a Venom movie... but Kurt Russell??? I know it's just a thought you threw out there & nothing official... I just think that Kurt would be a bad fit IMO....

Also, don't know how he would find out about the peice left over... Dr. Connors & Eddie had no interaction in the movie at all...

But I like the idea of a Venom movie...Could be pretty cool...
VenomIsOnMyRibs
VenomIsOnMyRibs - 4/9/2009, 3:10 PM
It is easy to bring him back, that is if they do a sligh tie in. For Spider-man 4 have Scorpion aka Mac Gargan get defeated fairly easily in the beginning. For the VENOM movie have the symbiote attach it self to him creating a new Venom, just like in the comic books. Of course in the comic books the Mob and other characters are working to get the symbiote parasite to meet with Gargan but it can be done.

I think its a very possible idea. Anyone else?
ThisFan
ThisFan - 4/9/2009, 3:20 PM
i think a venom movie will work but it has to be really well done not any of that spiderman 3 crap
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/9/2009, 3:25 PM
NO NO NO to the HORRIBLE Max Gargan Venom! Seriously, who would want to watch that crap? The REAL Venom as Eddie Brock from the late 80's-early 90's was an awesome character.

Here's what to do: REBOOT HIM! They could make it excellent if they started over from scratch and do a new mini-origin like "Punisher: Warzone" and "The Incredible Hulk" did.

Please, do not F this up again. And use his appearances from 'The Amazing Spider-Man' issues 300-375 as references for him. Those appearances (I think he had 5-6 storylines during that stretch) were when he was the best.
Spock
Spock - 4/9/2009, 3:39 PM
I like Venom as much a the next person & it would do great amongest people like us who like anime, comics & such. But other than I don't think it would be that great. Look what happen to Watchmen it just made $105,346,566 over the weekend. {Yahoo movies} You Say Kurt Russell, Ummh? Kurt Who!!!1
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 4/9/2009, 4:12 PM
MAYBE THEY SHOULD LEAVE THIS ONE ALONE.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/9/2009, 4:13 PM
Told ya lol! Anyway this would be a great movie but an AWESOME movie if they wen't with R RATED!!!! Could have a CARNAGE cameo at the end even!!! ; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/9/2009, 4:17 PM
P.s. This don't need SPIDEY in!!! That storys done!!! Anyone that don't think VENOM won't be a friggin' cool movie! You need help!! : D
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/9/2009, 4:19 PM
Yeah, well why not have Jack Nickelson play him by that logic? Not to knock him but Kurt Russell is too old for the role. I have thought about this for years (way prior to ANY "Spider-Man" films coming out) and I have no idea who could pull it off. I do know, however, that Topher Grace was in my bottom percentile of choices.

If I had to make a criteria for who to choose I'd say for starters it HAS to be someone who's jacked. Then I'd say that a younger up-and-coming actor who would be able to draw the younger audience would probably be best, too. Then I'd say that he has to be someone who can pull off looking badass AND like someone with a good heart all at once. That aspect of Eddie Brock was in my opinion why he was able to create such a huge fanbase. He wasn't just a guy killing or stealing, he only broke laws that kept him from getting to Spider-Man.

I'll admit that I don't know many newer actors. I don't watch many popular TV shows so I can't throw any names out there. I am pretty sure, though, that this part of making him a success would be necessary. And I can't think of any current big-name actors who would be right anyway.

So someone throw some ideas out there.
itashy
itashy - 4/9/2009, 4:41 PM
punisher warzone was horrible but i think it ll be good...as long as they build up the character,make the crowd love "the guy" and when he turns into venom they ll love him as well...writing villains as heroes is tough...take catwoman and punisher warzone....well punisher is an anti hero but still.those were over the top horrible movies while ghost rider and the punisher,again anti heroes i know,are two of my favorite movies
DarkAvengers
DarkAvengers - 4/9/2009, 4:44 PM
This movie is not going to happen, so stop talking about it. Venom is not an anti hero. It would not work. Get it out of your brains. This conversation is beyond stupid.

You cant have Venom without Spider-man. Whats going to happen? Venom leaves NYC and begins a new life in another city??? Come on. Its over. They ruined the character in spiderman 3. They had one shot and stupid pussy, Sam Raimi, blew it.
GrimReaper90
GrimReaper90 - 4/9/2009, 4:51 PM
If they do this film they do need to recast the character. I suggest Dominic Purcell from "Prison Break". Topher Grace just wasn't right for the role. As for his adversary; Carnage!!! Only thing though is that the film will have to be rated R.
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/9/2009, 4:58 PM
I just looked at Dominic Purcell and I don't dislike it. I'd need to see more options before I stamp him with my approval but so far he's better than anything I've come up with and he looks like he might be a good option. He definitely looks like someone who could play the good guy & bad guy role all at once. He looks like he could be mean and yet not mean at the same time. You might be on to something.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 4/9/2009, 4:59 PM
They should do a Bride Of Venom movie!

If this movie gets made i guarantee you that they will not reboot Eddie Brock, nor will they use Scorpion or any other character that has ever bonded with the symbiote in the comics..they will make up and new character and either have him as an antihero or make it a Wolfman type transformation type thing..a Jekyl and Hyde story.

Either way there is a very strong possibility that it will suck ass

Darkavengers, in the comics Venom was ALWAYS an anti hero..he hated Spidey with a passion and wanted him dead, but both Brock and the Symbiote never hurt innocents and actually protected the public when they could.

dbzfan
dbzfan - 4/9/2009, 5:03 PM
I just hope that do justice by Venom, because Spider-man 3 just pissed me off. He is my favorite Spider-man villain. I think a fresh start would be better. It can show how he became Venom.
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/9/2009, 5:10 PM
The problem is that they CAN'T correctly show how he became Venom WITHOUT including Spider-Man. Spider-Man had way too much to do with him and his origin to be left out. I really don't know how they could pull that off. IF they're gonna do it they may just need to leave his origin out.
Drew718
Drew718 - 4/9/2009, 5:31 PM
its gona suck! you know why? cuz sony is producing it! and u know its gona be a watered down pg-13 movie so i am definitely not looking forward to watching a crappy movie about one of the sickest characters!
ZombieLypse
ZombieLypse - 4/9/2009, 5:54 PM
As long as they make Venom the cool anti-hero he is in the comics it will be awsome. A little like a mix of Wolverine and Sandman in Spidey 3. They just need a bigger and grittier guy to play him. Not another Tobey knockoff.
adamant877
adamant877 - 4/9/2009, 6:08 PM
Interesting... How about no.
darthstern
darthstern - 4/9/2009, 6:10 PM
Come on, they blew it in sm3. They took one of the top 5 all time spiderman villans of all time imho and made him into eye candy. What made venom great was the psychological damage he did to pete and mj. I mean come on pete stopped wearing the black costume because it freaked mj out to much. So what did they do in the move, make him a metro fag with too much product in his hair. With a build like a 10 year old girl instead of arnold, which is how he was portrayed in the books. And for those who don't know the only reason venom is stronger then spidy is because eddie is strongeg then peter. Eddie became a weight lifter to deal with the depression on loosing his job because of spidey. Frick you sam rami and the script writers you ruined it you ruined it. Boo hoo ann no spin off is going to make it better boo hoo hoo
Anyway
Nick cage for eddie brock sr
Apoc4all
Apoc4all - 4/9/2009, 6:32 PM
I've already given my opinion in another thread on how Venom could be brought back, though, I didn't think about the Jr./Sr. part. That could work very well, considering it would give the character more reason to hat Spidey.

There has to be some connection with Spidey, even if it's only by reference. I don't like the idea of a reboot on this character, because he is tied so closely with Spidey, in fact that's his origin, and to do a reboot with this character, in my opinion, would require rebooting spidey as well.

I still stick with my idea that Marvel, the masters of resurecting v=characters, could bring back the same character (even the same actor), and make a great film. And I feel that Spidey 3 would, in this case, serve as a decent character introduction/origin. But this is a very good idea as well. As to villians, Carnage gets his start in spidey. This is an issue where I think the writers really need to look to the comics. It's a tag team story with Spidey and Venom, and should be done that way, no exceptions. However, a Punisher like storyline would do well. In Venoms own series he was either escaping evil scientists that wanted to abuse the power of the symbiote, or hunting down those who preyed on the "innocent". But I think pitting him against another symbiote, it's way too early for that.
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 4/9/2009, 6:40 PM
Lets face the facts, Eddie brock's portrayel in SM3 SUCKED, acting wise, screen time wise, and fight scene wise.

The Mac Gargon story WOULD make more sense after that atrosity of a movie, I mean Eddie IS confirmed dead, so who else is the symbiot going to go onto? Eddies' twin Edward?
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/9/2009, 6:46 PM
Sorry to be so blunt here but anyone who thinks they can bring back Topher Grace as Venom has no clue what they're talking about. HE ruined Venom, along with the writing. And forget about Max Gargan-- that was NOT VENOM! It was an absolutely STUPID idea.

And sorry but I'm not seeing Nick Cage as Venom at all. He doesn't look a thing like Eddie Brock. Darthstern, your description of why Venom is stronger than Spider-Man is a bit inaccurate. Eddie is not stronger than Peter. Peter has super-human strength. Eddie has ridiculous strength but he is not stronger than Peter. The reason he is stronger is because of the symbiote's strength.

I used to be the biggest Venom fan alive. I still have every comic he ever appeared in (even if it was just one page) up until the mid-90's. The reason I mention this is that the more I think about it, the more I just wish that they'd leave it alone. They ruined their chance in "Spider-Man 3." When I think back of all of the Venom storylines in the first 10 years of his existence I can't think of one that they should use for this movie-- without including Spider-Man, that is. So with that being said, anything that they do would be YET ANOTHER made up story or something that is nowhere close to how "it really happened" and would be yet another disapointment. Just let it go. Or wait til "Spider-Man 9" and reboot him.
DarkAvengers
DarkAvengers - 4/9/2009, 6:57 PM
Rorschach01, true, but you and i both know that they would not b able to pull this off. He was all about protecting the innocents, but his obsession, first and foremost, was finding Spiderman, killing him or joining with him again. The symbiote was always all about spiderman. I'm a Venom expert. I know what i'm talking about. They would never use Mac, because they would have to go into other things too. They CANNOT make this movie. It would be exactly like when they remade Catwoman with Halle Berry. And we all remember how that went, dont we?
loganaspatch
loganaspatch - 4/9/2009, 6:57 PM
Good luck on that one.

but yeah.. can not be a venom without a spiderman.

lol.. it could work for me because im still make believing spiderman 3 never happened :]
SUPASEGO
SUPASEGO - 4/9/2009, 8:01 PM
Raimi IMO has F'd up Spiderman starting with #3... and F'd up the middle end/end of #2.. So a reboot has to be thought of as "fixing mistakes/errors in the franchise or atleast the previous movie or movies.. Comicbook movie makers have to base their movies solely on the comicbooks alone and not tampered or F'd around with since there's always the possibilty (and probability) of having a sequel.. When a sequel is thought of, it has to be logical.. So like BATMAN and HULK "IF" they're going to go forward with a Vemon movie everything has to be erased as far as Vemon's inclusion in Spiderman 3.. Casting.. and the way they finished him off.. IMO Spiderman 3 was horrible.. The dopey caberet crap.. Peter Parker's Saturdaynight Fever strut in Manhattan.. The Peter Parker piano playing and dance routine.. WTF were they thinking..??? They could bring back Venom in a Spiderman movie (secretly slyly squeeze in Brook as if he survived the blast) recast the actor and have Spiderman & Venom fight Carnage at the end of either Pt 4 or 5.. It's not brain surgery.. But one thing should be done.. FIRE RAIMI!!!!!!!
MisterNiceGuy
MisterNiceGuy - 4/9/2009, 9:10 PM
just please be R rated....yayyyy venom
Scarecrow
Scarecrow - 4/9/2009, 9:20 PM
YES! R-RATED! NO TO KURT RUSSELL AND NO TO SPIDEY APPERANCE. REBOOT REBOOT REBOOT!!!
BaronBubba
BaronBubba - 4/9/2009, 9:21 PM
"This movie is not going to happen, so stop talking about it. Venom is not an anti hero. It would not work. Get it out of your brains. This conversation is beyond stupid.

You cant have Venom without Spider-man. Whats going to happen? Venom leaves NYC and begins a new life in another city??? Come on. Its over. They ruined the character in spiderman 3. They had one shot and stupid pussy, Sam Raimi, blew it."

"Rorschach01, true, but you and i both know that they would not b able to pull this off. He was all about protecting the innocents, but his obsession, first and foremost, was finding Spiderman, killing him or joining with him again. The symbiote was always all about spiderman. I'm a Venom expert. I know what i'm talking about. They would never use Mac, because they would have to go into other things too. They CANNOT make this movie. It would be exactly like when they remade Catwoman with Halle Berry. And we all remember how that went, dont we?"

Dude.. What the hell is wrong with you, DarkAvengers? Do you get all of you info from 3 episodes of Spider-Man: Unlimited and Marvel Adventures comics? The more you blab about stuff, the less I respect your opinions...

As a venom expert, you'd know that as soon as The Life Foundation came into his life, both Eddie and the Suit couldn't care less about Parker... In fact, they became a good cop/bad cop team... Anything involving his offspring (Riot, Phage, Lasher, Agony {and even Hybrid}, Scream, Carnage {and through Carnage, Toxin}), Venom doesn't even care about Spidey. At all.


As for the whole Mac Gargan thing... I support this. And before folks blow me up for saying that, I think that Scorpion would have to be rewritten as a loser (a la Shocker), possibly even a wannabe hero, who Spidey kinda boots to the side, because he keeps endangering himself and others in the process.

And instead of getting modified with Scorpion DNA at Connors', have him catch that lil bit of Symbiote... A really unstable piece, wanting to be whole (seeing as how it was separated from its main bit). And that instability makes the Monster.

At least... Thats what I'd think.
BaronBubba
BaronBubba - 4/9/2009, 9:21 PM
"This movie is not going to happen, so stop talking about it. Venom is not an anti hero. It would not work. Get it out of your brains. This conversation is beyond stupid.

You cant have Venom without Spider-man. Whats going to happen? Venom leaves NYC and begins a new life in another city??? Come on. Its over. They ruined the character in spiderman 3. They had one shot and stupid pussy, Sam Raimi, blew it."

"Rorschach01, true, but you and i both know that they would not b able to pull this off. He was all about protecting the innocents, but his obsession, first and foremost, was finding Spiderman, killing him or joining with him again. The symbiote was always all about spiderman. I'm a Venom expert. I know what i'm talking about. They would never use Mac, because they would have to go into other things too. They CANNOT make this movie. It would be exactly like when they remade Catwoman with Halle Berry. And we all remember how that went, dont we?"

Dude.. What the hell is wrong with you, DarkAvengers? Do you get all of you info from 3 episodes of Spider-Man: Unlimited and Marvel Adventures comics? The more you blab about stuff, the less I respect your opinions...

As a venom expert, you'd know that as soon as The Life Foundation came into his life, both Eddie and the Suit couldn't care less about Parker... In fact, they became a good cop/bad cop team... Anything involving his offspring (Riot, Phage, Lasher, Agony {and even Hybrid}, Scream, Carnage {and through Carnage, Toxin}), Venom doesn't even care about Spidey. At all.


As for the whole Mac Gargan thing... I support this. And before folks blow me up for saying that, I think that Scorpion would have to be rewritten as a loser (a la Shocker), possibly even a wannabe hero, who Spidey kinda boots to the side, because he keeps endangering himself and others in the process.

And instead of getting modified with Scorpion DNA at Connors', have him catch that lil bit of Symbiote... A really unstable piece, wanting to be whole (seeing as how it was separated from its main bit). And that instability makes the Monster.

At least... Thats what I'd think.
Scarecrow
Scarecrow - 4/9/2009, 9:21 PM
Brock Lesner as VENOM!
dbzfan
dbzfan - 4/9/2009, 9:30 PM
WHAT THE [frick]?! Brock Lesner? I hope you're kidding
Scarecrow
Scarecrow - 4/9/2009, 9:30 PM
hes a masive MoFo! Venom is Masive.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 4/9/2009, 10:17 PM
Lesner should not be in a movie were you have to see his face. It is always frozen in that "I've got to take a crap really bad!" face.

Other than that I am staying out of this one, cause it could get ugly.
darthstern
darthstern - 4/9/2009, 10:29 PM
metal head; no eddie brock s not stronger then peter parker/spiderman eddie brock is stronger then plain old peter parker no powers the symbiot gives him the strength of spiderman which is about the ability to lift 10 tons. eddie brock is almost a olympic class weight lifter therefor making him stronger. well at least thats how they classified it back in the 90's
any way
still nick cage for eddie brock sr
Colt
Colt - 4/9/2009, 11:27 PM
i only pulled kurt russell out of the air cause i was trying to think of someone who was older but still tough looking... there are probably many better choices. i also hate rebooting characters as much as the next guy, so i decided to come up with the father/son angle... i dont see you coming up with anything better!!

Also I would find it highly upsetting if they used mac gargan for venom because that would only confirm that spider-man 3's venom is all we get of the eddie brock symbiote (the real venom.)

aaand i think people should stop crapping on Sam Raimi and Topher Grace. Raimi didnt want to include venom, but was forced by producers... and has stated that he isnt going to allow that to happen again for any upcoming spider-mans (so the next one will be the REAL test!) and topher only took the part because he is a huge comic book nerd, so can you really blame him? i think he did surprisingly well considering he's eric foreman.
ZombieLypse
ZombieLypse - 4/9/2009, 11:27 PM
Nick Cage SUCKS!!!
Osiris
Osiris - 4/9/2009, 11:47 PM
idk if this movie is a good idea the only way i can see non comic fans seeing it is if they spin it off of Spidey 3 and have grace play him again, otherwise it is going to just bring in the fans like Punisher: War zone did.

also the reason why Grace's Eddie refers to himself as Brock jr. is because he is being portrayed as the Eddie from the ultimate universe where his name is Eddie Brock jr.
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