THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY Rant (Parody)

THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY Rant (Parody)

After watching TDKR several times and reading the many complaints and comparisons to the last two films, I decided to rewatch the previous Nolan Batman movies and really see are they the flawless master pieces that everyone makes them out too be.

Editorial Opinion
By ekrolo2 - Aug 02, 2012 06:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic
Source: ComicBookMovie.com

After reading the many comments saying that TDKR has a million plot holes, there's no way you could fix your spine that way or how did he get back to Gotham and so on and so on.

But that got me thinking, is the last movie of the trilogy the only one to have these issues, or is it something all 3 movies share but people just wont admit it. I rewatched all 3 movies paying careful attention to everything that was going on and here are some of the universal problems of this trilogy.

I wont be covering too much TDKR stuff because people have already ripped it to death, so Il focus on the other two movies primarily with occasional TDKR stuff.



THE PASSAGE OF TIME

This is something that bugs me to no end and im pretty sure the rest of you have noticed this. Many important events like the final battle in Begins, the capture and escape of Joker and Bruce retraining in the pit all happen WAY too fast.

Lets look at the final night in Begins. Batman finds Crane in Arkham Asylum, beats him and his thugs, discovers the fear gas, beats a swat team, gets into a car chase with them, saves Rachel, has a party, fights Ras and his men at the mansion, the Narrows is gassed trapping the entire police force, escaped inmates and civilians on the island, Batman saves Rachel (again), fights Ras and his henchmen again, fights Ras again on the train and defeats the entire League in 1 night!

In The Dark Knight this happens again. Harvey calls himself Batman, gets arrested, transported to prison, Batman and Joker have an all out fight for Harvey on the road, Joker is captured, Gordon is promoted, Gordon meets up with his wife and child, comes back to prison, interrogate Joker along with Batman, Harvey and Rachel are blown up and Joker escapes. Again all of this happens in 1 NIGHT!

The passage of time is bad in TDKR, however at least 5 months pass so I can kinda see how the city got so bad and we do have a lot of stuff happen in Gotham while Bruce is in the pit, not enough to think 5 months have passed, but a few weeks maybe a month. In the last two movies, so much stuff happens in just 1 NIGHT!There is no way all of that stuff can happen in a matter of a few hours, especially TDK stuff.

THE COPS ARE MORONS

This one in particular bugs me because in the 3 times this happens, in two of them its Gordons fault which makes it even worse.

In Begins, Gordon doesn't even bother to tell the commissioner that there's something in the water supply, but the commissioner traps almost every cop in the Narrows, without any way of getting back up or retreating and leaving them on a small island filled with homicidal killers and panicking civilians. Thank god the idiot died in TDK.

In TDK, Maroni tells Gordon where Joker is exactly, Gordon prepares his troops, but then he stops to watch television.... WHAT! Are you kidding me?! You know where the biggest killer in all of Gotham is exactly, you have enough time to get him and you waste your time watching the idiot lawyer who knows Batmans identity?! If Joker was threatening him then Gordon stopped, I would understand, however he spends 10 minutes watching the goddamn TV THEN Joker threatens Reese and Gordon decides to do something.

Then there's the obvious thing in TDKR where Gordon, oh so dependable Gordon, sends 3000 police officers in the tunnels. Has he learned nothing from Joker or Bane?! Things are never what they seem with these costumed freaks, and considering they blew your men up, you'd think they'd have explosives down there or some contingency plan.

Another Gordon master plan is his revealing himself to be alive, goddamn it Jim... You know that Joker plays dirty, he has kicked your ass, he's kicked Harveys ass and hes kicked Batmans ass. Why didn't you just nab him anonymously and continue watching him from the shadows, NNNNNNAAAAAAAAA, Il just threaten the safety of my family anyway, that was the point of faking my death. But hey I got promoted so who cares.



YOU SIR ARE A [frick]ING IDIOT!

THE JOKERS PLAN

OH MY GOD HE DARE YOU TALK SMACK ABOUT JOKER! Yeah well I don't care, Heath Ledger may have been the greatest Joker yet, he may have stolen the show and given me my perfect Joker. But im sorry, his plan and his philosophy are BS and he obviously contradicts himself.

The thing about this is realism, people always like to say this is realistic Batman, no, it's a world grounded in realism where comic booky things can happen while still being fairly plausible.

TDK tips the scale way too much into realism and this gives me some serious issues with Jokers plan. The main problems I have with Joker are that his plan is full of what ifs? Coincidences or just lucky guesses.

How did he know the guys in the bank wouldn't kill him? How did he know where the mobsters were in the meeting, how did he know Batman would turn himself over, how did he know the mobsters would hire him, how did he know while chasing Harvey that he wasnt Batman, how did he know that Batman would absolutely go after Rachel, how the hell did he exit a hospital in the middle of broad daylight, with hundreds of cops and media personal around it, blow it up AND manage to get into a truck without ANYONE noticing him?!

Many people say OH THATS HOW JOKER IS! Bull and shit, I can't believe that his plan could work on any level. The bank heist was a test to see how his goons would react based on what he told them, they did prove his point but still, there is no way he could know they wouldn't just kill him.

Also its pretty convenient that Harvey was the ONLY person in the ENTIRE hospital not to be transferred when he should have been out of there immediately. And for that matter, how did he know where Harvey would end up? And manage to plant enough explosives to blow that hospital up, explosives take time, especially for an entire building but the passage of time is so poor it makes it seem like Joker already had it setup or had set it up in a few hours.

I cannot enjoy the Jokers stuff knowing that the only reason that his plan worked, is because EVERYONE else is an uncharacteristically acting like oblivious morons.



Heath, you gave us a fantastic performance, but im sorry... your plan is BS

THE DARK KNIGHT ENDING

This never bothered my and I thought it was brilliantly done, until... I actually started thinking about it, and it makes no sense.

Okay, Joker corrupts Harvey and turns him into Two Face, so far so good. Then Harvey kills Weurtz, Maroni and his driver. This is already a problem because how could no one notice a dude with half his face blown off walking around.

You could say everyone was too busy getting out in a panick to notice him, but these guys obviously weren't worried and stayed, so I don't buy everyone giving into Joker.

And since no one saw him, why in the hell would they think OH HARVEY MUST HAVE KILLED THEM! News flash, NO ONE SAW HIM!!!! No one saw him and as far as Gordon told the press, he was safe with the cops and completely stable. The only thing they could pin on Batman is Harvey trying to kill Gordons family.

But this could also easily be ratified by making up a smarter lie than just saying BATMAN DID IT DUH!!! Why didn't Gordon get his family out, why didn't Batman just hide Harvey some where, let the cops find him a few days later and say a member of the mob did it, that would obviously bring the hammer down harder on organized crime than a guy dressing up as a bat who never did anything worse than breaking an arm would suddenly kill Dent for no reason.

Also Batman throws his ass 5 stories and kills him. You could say he killed Ras, but really Ras destroyed the panel controls and didnt mind his surroundings which along with his arrogance ultimately killed him.



Look at that pretty face, what guy dressed up as a bat would kill him?Unleas if it's for a contrived ending, then its okay.

HYPOCRISY

Now you might be wondering why did I make this article? Too bash Nolans movies? Well yeah I did this a little for that out my pleasure of making other people angry.

But also to prove just how hypocritical people are being of the third movie. After reading my article and reading the other ones bashing TDKR. Do you think its fair not to judge one movie and condemn it for issues that all 3 movies have?

If you can accept a microwave emitter that can vaporize water, a device that can make every mobile device into a sonar. Then you can accept a fusion reactor that takes 5 months blow up.

If you can accept a guy getting only half of his face blown off, be able to walk around without any medication and not go bat shit insane and screaming on the top of his lungs from the pain, then you can accept a guy getting his spine broken and surviving.

Hypocrisy has always existed on the internet and whether you agree with me on this is totally up to you, but I hope you can see past the fanboy/hater bullshit and just look at the facts.

All 3 of these movies are fantastic, but all 3 of them can be picked to death when you actually start thinking about them. People do this all the time and this was my opportunity to prove it.

If you judge one movie based on nit picky stuff or plot holes or abrupt storylines being done to fast. Then you better judge all 3 of them like that or [frick] off altogether so we can enjoy these films without your fanboy/hater BS.



It's not about being a fanboy or hater, it's about speaking the truth through a sea of bullshit.
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Kalel219
Kalel219 - 8/2/2012, 6:32 AM
One of the biggest nitpicks I have trouble understanding is

"How did he get back to Gotham"

Yet everyone seems to forget he kinda did the same thing at the start of Begins after his training
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 6:35 AM
@Kalel219

Yes indeed, he gets his arm broken, gets Ras too the village, next scene hes entering the jet.... How the hell did he got off the mountain or get in contact with Alfred?!

BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 8/2/2012, 6:37 AM
Alfred picked him up in Begins with his plane to bring him back to Gotham. What he did do in Begins though, is travel the world training with none of his money. He's a resourceful guy. It's not a stretch of the imagination that he could get back into Gotham and really didn't need explanation.
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 6:39 AM
@PORNOGRAPHER

Its never explain how he got into contact with Alfred and Joker just doing stuff doesnt explain how things just fall in line with him.

The plot just conviniently makes him win every time until its decided to finish his story and make him lose. Jokers motivation is perfect, but his plan has way to many what ifs or conviniences that just for the sake of keeping it going when he should have bit the dust.

If were going on the realism card bullshit, then realistically his plan would have failed almost from the beginning.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 8/2/2012, 6:40 AM
I know how Bruce got back to Gotham in TDKR. He's Batman!
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 6:41 AM
@RidiculousFanBoyDemands

Yes, if he can just get a phone out of his ass from nowhere and get in and out of bank with dozens of cops guarding it without anyone seeing or hearing him get out. Then he can get back into gotham just as magically as he can dissapear.


Kalel219
Kalel219 - 8/2/2012, 6:48 AM
I know Alfred picks him up but as Ekrolo2 said...

"he gets his arm broken, gets Ras too the village"
Next scene he's fine.

"What he did do in Begins though, is travel the world training with none of his money."

Wasn't he also legally declared "Dead" at this stage?
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 6:52 AM
@PORNOGRAPHER

If hes ressourcefull, then we dont have to see him go back to Gotham, we know he dealt with blak market people to get in and out of Hong Kong or for components in his suit.

And Joker does win all the time, but just because of convinience and the fact that everyone is a [frick]ing moron.

He wins because he broke Harvey, got Batman exiled and destroyed Gordon over many years by having to make him lie about the truth.

Joker did win in TDK in everything except making Batman kill, but he did throw Harvey off the building so Joker kinda won in all aspects.
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 7:00 AM
@PORNOGRAPHER

Ah, but he did. He turned Harvey and brought him down to their level as Joker put it and they only way to truly corrupt Batman is too make him break his rule never to kill.

Which Batman kinda dude in Begins, but Ras didnt mind his surroundings and his arrogance were ultimately what killed him.

That whole ending situation wouldnt have even happened if Joker didnt corrupt Harvey. Thats the magic of Joker, even when hes gone his presence can be felt not just inthe last 15 minutes of TDK but also through the entirety of TDKR
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 7:06 AM
@PORNOGRAPHER

I dont think he actually ment to kill im, I think he had a choice save Gordons kid or Harvey and he made his choice.

Kinda like how he didnt kill Ras per say but left him to die knowing that if he was left alive, he would do much more damage to Gotham if he survived.
CBMJamie
CBMJamie - 8/2/2012, 7:45 AM
@Kalel219

But in Begins, he knew where and how to get in contact with Alfred. In TDKR he didn't.
jaysin420
jaysin420 - 8/2/2012, 7:46 AM
I think most people simply overlook the problems with TDK because of how amazing Ledger was.
MrReese
MrReese - 8/2/2012, 8:01 AM
why do ppl keep complaining about how Bruce got back???? The man is [frick]ing Batman FFS!!!! who the [frick] else knows Gotham better than Bruce???

How did Bruce Banner get the bike when he 1st regrouped with TA???? did he steal it??? I mean thats a plot hole so the movie sucked!!! (sarcasm) R u [frick]in guys serious??? We lose ourselves in a fantasy world yet we expect something different on film lmao!!! like i said nitpickers have way 2 much time on ur hands.XD
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 8:02 AM
@CBMJamie

We dont know where he is, we dont know how he contacted Alfred and we dont know he got off a mountain with his arm busted. Begins didnt explain anything.

Bruce saved Ras, breaks his arm in the process, gets him back to the village and next scene his cleaned up, healed and the jets already waiting for him. Hes probably in Tibet or somewhere in the mountain regions of China so you cant just find a phone or email somebody there.
sadmamba
sadmamba - 8/2/2012, 8:21 AM
Hahahaha how old are you people? Dont you heard the word "imagination"? Or the phrase "use your common sense"... Nolan doesnt have to explain everything especially if it's just a small issue or scene...did it bothered you how tobey's spidey made his suit and how Jarvis painted the mark 2 according to a hot rod's design?
sadmamba
sadmamba - 8/2/2012, 8:35 AM
If nolan will explain every second, every minute it will be boring as ur life...
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 8:39 AM
@sadmamba

My point is that people are hypocritical about TDKR when niether of the two previous films are perfect and dont explain everything, they dont need too, a smart man once said Movies are real life with all the boring stuff taken out.
Minotauro
Minotauro - 8/2/2012, 9:44 AM
@ekrolo - "smart man once said Movies are real life with all the boring stuff taken out."

Tell me who this smart man was. Because I think he takes films way to seriously.

Supes17
Supes17 - 8/2/2012, 10:02 AM
Oh gee, another rant...

Might as well jump in the bandwagon and write one as well...
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 10:03 AM
@Minotauro

Alfred Hitchcock.
Supes17
Supes17 - 8/2/2012, 10:12 AM
Yeah some of his movies were boring as hell though :P
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 10:20 AM
@Supes17

Lol, totally.
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 11:37 AM
@SotoJuiceMan

I guess I should have made it more clear, but this rant was indeended to be a parody of TDKR faults. Because I constantly read comments about OH THIS DIDNT GET EXPLAINED OR THIS IS A PLOT HOLE!

So I just thought im going to watch the last two movies and prove these guys are full of shit about the last two being flawless, because all 3 movies can be picked to death, but Begins and TDKR are easier because they are a little bit more comic book and the flaws are little more noticable.

My point was these are movies, they dont have to explain everything but people just decided OH TDKR HAS TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING! And this was sort of a [frick] you to those people, because there has never been a movie that explains everything nor has there been or ever will be a perfect film and thats why my last point was HYPOCRISY.

Hypocrisy just [frick]ing pisses me off more than anything on the internet, I constantly see people hating on some thing when a billion other things are doing the exact some thing or even worse.

I liked the Avengers alot but the second time watching I was bored, Loki was a utter push over and the final battle just remined me too much of Transformers 3s final battle.

ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 12:35 PM
@fangz

Yes indeed, that is the point of this article, to make fun of picking apart movies or calling 1 movie the only bad one in the series when thats not true.

I guess I should have clarified that sooner but what the hell, a trolling is a trolling XD
GoILL
GoILL - 8/2/2012, 12:42 PM
@ekrolo2 lol, good shit.
ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 8/2/2012, 12:48 PM
@fangz

Trying to reason with a hypocrite is like trying teach a dog how to talk, a fruitless and pointless endevour. People just have this notion that Begins and TDK are the greatest films ever.

They are to me too but they arent perfect, even something like citizen kane which is often called the best movie ever isnt perfect. People just cant accept or see flaws ins something thats generally considered a master piece.

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/3/2012, 3:40 AM
After seeing TDKR, we learn that Bruce was really only actively Batman for about a year before quitting at the end of TDK.

He spends 7 years training, becomes and becomes Batman in begins. Im being generous when I say about a year passes between Begins and TDK. then he quits and goes into hiding for 8 years after TDK, only to come back for one final adventure in Rises.

Thats some bullshit. He was only Batman for a year...

TDKR ruined the overall story of Bruce Wayne's career as Batman for the whole trilogy. And this is coming from someone who loved Begins and TDK, so I dont even want to hear anyone call me a marvelite or any shit like that.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 8/4/2012, 8:28 AM
I'm one of the nitpickers who complain about Bruce getting into Gotham.

Gotham wasn't occupied by both the United States military and Bane's mercenaries in Batman Begins. I can understand him getting back to the states, back to [New York/Illinois] but how does he get back to Gotham City?

If we were given a small scene where Bruce reaches an emergency cache somewhere that would allow him to get his gear, I'd be somewhat satisfied (although it doesn't explain how he's able to avoid detection COMPLETELY - being "Batman" isn't what this Batman is about).

It's something that takes you out of the movie if you have your brain turned on. We see that Gothamites have been falling through the ice. The military is guarding every entry point to the city, and managed to smuggle in some ill-fated soldiers. Considering how gung-ho the Guard was to blow the bridge, even with kids on it, we are meant to understand that it is EXTREMELY treacherous - as in, Mario falls in the lava - instant death.

The Batman of the comics would have been able to get in and out no problem (and does, in fact, during No Man's Land), but this is NOT the Batman of the comics.
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