THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RINGS OF POWER Introduces Ciarán Hinds' "Dark Wizard" - Is This [SPOILER]?

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RINGS OF POWER Introduces Ciarán Hinds' "Dark Wizard" - Is This [SPOILER]?

Episode 2 of Prime Video's The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power introduces Ciarán Hinds as the "Dark Wizard," who might just turn out to be one of the saga's main villains...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 30, 2024 07:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Lord of the Rings
Source: Via SFF Gazette

The first three episodes of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power season 2 are now streaming on Prime Video, and ep 2, "Where the Stars are Strange," introduces a mysterious character who might just turn out to be the secondary antagonist of J.R.R. Tolkien's trilogy.

We know most of you will be well aware of who we're referring to, but just in case, spoilers follow.

After first catching up with Durin, Disa and the other Dwarves of Khazad-dûm, we find out who sent the masked marauders that have been tracking Nori, Poppy, and the Stranger through the deserts of Western Rhûn: A powerful sorcerer known only as the "Dark Wizard" (Game of Thrones alum Ciarán Hinds).

At first glance, there appears to be little doubt that this clearly wicked individual is Saruman, but there are other possibilities.

Rings of Power has taken a few liberties with certain aspects of Tolkien's works already, of course, but if this is Saruman it would be a pretty major deviation from the lore. For one, the wizard didn't arrive on Middle-earth until the Third Age (though the same can be said for Gandalf, who is almost certainly The Stranger). Also, "Saruman the Wise" was initially a force for good before being corrupted later in the timeline.

With this in mind, could he actually be one of the Blue Wizards, Alatar and Pallando? Very little is written about these characters, but Tolkien said that these "others of the Istari went into the east of Middle-earth, and do not come into these tales." Leaving the geographic inconsistencies aside, depicting either of these guys in a villainous light would be an odd choice, but - again - the show has already played fast and loose with the lore, so it wouldn't be that surprising.

There is another possibly: What if the Dark Wizard is a brand-new character created for this series? Sure, Tolkien purists would really throw their hands up if a sixth Istar was introduced, but he could simply be posing as one of Gandalf's order.

What do you think? Is this Saruman, or someone else? Let us know in the comments section.

"Sauron has returned. Cast out by Galadriel, without army or ally, the rising Dark Lord must now rely on his own cunning to rebuild his strength and oversee the creation of the Rings of Power, which will allow him to bind all the peoples of Middle-earth to his sinister will."

"Building on Season 1’s epic scope and ambition, Season 2 of Amazon’s The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power plunges even its most beloved and vulnerable characters into a rising tide of darkness, challenging each to find their place in a world that is increasingly on the brink of calamity."

"Elves and dwarves, orcs and men, wizards and Harfoots... as friendships are strained and kingdoms begin to fracture, the forces of good will struggle ever more valiantly to hold on to what matters to them most of all.. each other."

Returning cast members include Morfydd Clark, Benjamin Walker, Charles Edwards, Charlie Vickers, Markella Kavenagh, Nazanin Boniadi, Ismael Cruz Cordova, Tyroe Muhafidin, Maxim Baldry, Cynthia Addai-Robinson, Owain Arthur, Trystan Gravelle, Ema Horvath, Sophia Nomvete, Megan Richards, Dylan Smith, Leon Wadham, Daniel Weyman, and Sara Zwangobani.

Sam Hazeldine (Peaky Blinders) replaces Joseph Mawle as Adar, with Ciarán Hinds (Game of Thrones), Rory Kinnear (Penny Dreadful), and Tanya Moodie (The Man Who Fell to Earth) joining the ensemble in key roles.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/30/2024, 7:12 AM

Annddd things are getting worse.

Just terrible.
The1st
The1st - 8/30/2024, 8:10 AM
@DocSpock - Yeah, I'm not sure how to feel about it really...other than I'm in no hurry to watch. A 3 ep premiere does feel a little tryhard too. I will say there's a clear difference between a passion project and a corporate one though. With the last Matrix film I would say it's arguably both in that case.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/30/2024, 8:17 AM
@The1st -

You got that right. Corporate interests can work if a project aligns with a huge fan base. But taking a true classic of world literature and crapping all over it because they clearly don't understand or care about the source material is just a sad crime. I feel mostly the same about the Wheel of Time show.
The1st
The1st - 8/30/2024, 8:24 AM
@DocSpock - True. I guess it's creative license. Like I know Rosmund Pike was passionate about the books, but it doesn't translate to the screen for some. My dad read the books and was just like, yeah, pass. It was okay I guess, but I'm not eagerly anticipating the next season. Lanfear was fun though.

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TheyDont
TheyDont - 8/30/2024, 7:17 AM
I hope he's a symbiote, too.
Floke
Floke - 8/30/2024, 7:19 AM
@TheyDont - He is clearly Mephisto in a symbiote.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 8/30/2024, 8:47 AM
@TheyDont - Wolverine variant.
Floke
Floke - 8/30/2024, 7:18 AM
If thats Saruman, yes that is stupid on a new level.

I dont remember if the harry feets even came cross with anyone from the other storylines, but if the stranger from s1 is Gandalf, the only thing that would make that justified in any way would be if they pull a Westworld and the storyline with the harefeets takes place long after the main storyline. Then hats off, because that would be pretty cool - if it hadnt been such a boring storyline in the first place that is..
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/30/2024, 7:22 AM
@Floke - I actually never even considered that... they could do it, as we've never seen those characters interact with anyone else. But I think they've just messed with the timeline so they could use the wizards, tbh.
Floke
Floke - 8/30/2024, 7:28 AM
@MarkCassidy - Yeah, they probably went the lazy way, but I still have hope. I loved that part of Westworld. Such a mind-twister.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/30/2024, 7:46 AM
@Floke - That… surprisingly works. They better be doing that.
The1st
The1st - 8/30/2024, 8:14 AM
@MarkCassidy - Gotta subvert those expectations I guess. I wonder why they think we want that with adaptations so much really.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/30/2024, 7:35 AM
He is definitely Saruman-coded just like “The Stranger” is very Gandalf-coded hence why I don’t think either of them are that tbh…

I feel like given we have really no information on the Blue Wizards in Tolkien’s lore that it might be either of them but if you are going to play their identities up as somewhat of a mystery then the payoff needs to land too for people watching who may not be familiar with the lore beyond the films or such and only know those 2 wizards (and Radagast to an extent).

Anyway , I’m cautiously intrigued for now so we’ll see…

I did like the first 2 episodes (haven’t seen the third yet) so hope the season keeps it up!!.

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Fogs
Fogs - 8/30/2024, 7:49 AM
If Saruman: The man was corrupted from the start, and him being in the white council proves once again that the movie Elven leaders and wizards are [frick]ing dumb.

If not Saruman: new character, possibly one of the blue wizards, which is less bad because Tolkien said they went away to the east and he doesn't really know where hey ended up, probably founded cults or religions. Of course that's still deviating from anything the man wrote but that's a given by now.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 8/30/2024, 8:10 AM
I'll be watching these 3 episodes over the weekend.
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 8/30/2024, 8:12 AM
He has to be a Blue Wizard. Saruman doesn’t make sense. What if Pallando was corrupted and has captured/killed Alatar. Could be a cool angle.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 8/30/2024, 9:16 AM
@Gmoney84 - I still think The Stranger could be one of the blue wizards.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 8/30/2024, 8:50 AM
If they have the rights to Saruman, it will be him. If they don't (and I don't think they do), it will not be him.
bcom
bcom - 9/2/2024, 10:38 PM
@Rosraf - It won't be Saruman. Saruman didn't turn evil until much later than when this series is set.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 8/30/2024, 10:18 AM
There are a few variations that emerged over the years (mostly due to Christopher Tolkien not being in the same league (world-building wise) as his father) that the showrunners may be trying to latch on to here

It has been mentioned that the Blue Wizards journeyed East (as did Saruman, at one point) and fell out of focus on their mission and instead formed cults dedicated to the ego aggrandizement of their own piwer sets amongst infidels

It has also been posited that they were long disruptive of Sauron’s machinations on his Eastern flank so as to undermine and slow his ascension to supremacy through resource diversion and division

It has also been posited (again, Christopher in the ‘Unfinished Tales,’ I believe) that the Nazgul may have slain one of the wizards but obviously their existence is still a ways off)
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/30/2024, 2:01 PM
@SauronthePower - I've only heard some of this... Very interesting. I should consult you before I write my next ROP article 😂
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 8/31/2024, 8:26 AM
@MarkCassidy - its in either 1 of the 2 Lost Tales books or the Unfinished Tales standalone. One of them becomes a renegade sorcerer who is worshipped as a deity by his own cult and the other is captured by Sauron and tormented to d&@th.

Problem being that Christopher Tolkien revised the canon too many times that he wrote the whole thing into a corner by constantly regurgitating dredged up lost drafts that his father lost for a reason

Hence we have the 2 versions of the Istari (v1 - all 5 came together, v2- Alatar and Pallando (later rev) came separately centuries earlier), the number of balrogs vacillating from over a thousand to as little as 3, Tulkas beating Morgoth in War of Wrath vs later revision of Eonwe doing it and no Vala present)

‘Silmarillion’ to me is bedrock canon

All of the ‘lost history of Middle Earth’ compendium books were a shameless cash-grab during the 80’s to capitalize on that sweet, sweet TSR cash that Gary Gygax flooded the geek world with

HelaGood
HelaGood - 8/30/2024, 2:00 PM
I LOVE this show! Totally digging season 2 very much. For the haters, don't watch it if you don't like it.
Lemons
Lemons - 8/30/2024, 3:29 PM
I hate how stupid a lot of the characters are and like a lot of the plot relies on the characters being stupid to make dumb decisions. I wish it wasn't like that. I thought I liked season 1, but after getting through the first 3 episodes of season 2, I'm losing interest.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 8/31/2024, 8:35 AM
@Lemons - agree on this. I am realky trying to give this as many chances as I can but it ALWAYS circles back to the middle school dropout writing. Actors are doing work with what they are given, but the story is a wreck right now
Lemons
Lemons - 8/31/2024, 1:04 PM
@SauronthePower - Yeah like I have no issues with the performances. It's the writing that's killing me.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 8/31/2024, 8:40 AM
It's good to see Cheech Marin still working
bcom
bcom - 9/2/2024, 10:37 PM
Given the timeline this series is set in it won't be Saruman. Saruman didn't turn dark until much, much later.

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