DCCU: Putting the TV Shows And Part of Nolan Trilogy in it

DCCU: Putting the TV Shows And Part of Nolan Trilogy in it

How Warner Bros. can put together a cinematic universe that incorporates the tv shows Arrow and The Flash.

Editorial Opinion
By HulkSmash89 - May 19, 2014 06:05 PM EST
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To be perfectly honest, I have times where I enjoy DC a lot and times where I enjoy Marvel a lot. As seen
with Marvel Studios, they are killing it with their cinematic universe. I hope that DC/Warner Bros. can do the same because there are a lot of interesting characters/storylines that would be awesome to see on the big screen. That being said I feel they need to incorporate their television properties to expand their universe greater. As much as I like Agents of Shield, I feel that they rely too heavily on tie-ins/promotions. With Arrow and hopefully The Flash you can have these stories seperate but at the same time tied together. Here is my idea....

 

1) Arrow and The Flash happen before Man of Steel, that way in the Justice League film if you want to use the actors you can or just recast them if  you want an older version. Having the TV shows connected can expand on the mythology of the characters, while also introducing them to audiences that maybe have never heard of them before. Especially with Arrow, not being one of the BIG 3 (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman) having a TV show lets you show the character that might not have been possible/warrented a want on the big screen.
 
2) The Nolan version of Batman does exist in the DCCU, but not directly. Events can be referenced or hinted at but never fully follows continutity. The only way it could fully fit into the DCCU, is if you just take Batman Begins and The Dark Knight and not The Dark Knight Rises. WIth Ben Affleck now playing Batman, it is a soft reboot. I take it if you do use Begins and Dark Knight that at the end of DK, when Batman goes on the run, he goes into hiding but Bruce Wayne stays in the spotlight.

3) Ryan Reynold's Green Lantern ABSOLUTELY does not fit into the DCCU. Not even as a soft reboot. My reasoning (besides being a disappointing movie) is that Parallax attack on Coast City would prepare the world for other aliens and them not be so suprised at the arrival of Zod and Superman. Also, this movie would have to happpen before Man of Steel and not after because of the presumed recast of the Green Lantern.

So for right now until more DCCU movies are announced, your viewing order can be like this...
Batman Begins--Arrow Season 1---The Dark Knight---Arrow Season 2--The Flash Season 1---Arrow Season 3--Man of Steel--Batman VS. Superman--Justice League

Thanks for reading and hit the comment section, i want to know your take is.
 

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VaderNation
VaderNation - 5/19/2014, 6:43 PM
I am baffled that people still cant accept the fact the the Nolan trilogy was its own thing and this Batman is a new one. Its over. The nolan movies were great but its over and they are definitely not part of the DCCU.
Affleck is gonna own in BVS.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 5/19/2014, 6:58 PM
No to Nolan's Batman being in any way canon. Have Flash/Arrow taking place around the same time as MoS (sometime in the next season, have the Zod message viwed by Arrow and Flash.) Grant Gustin would be fine as Flash in Justice League. As for Arrow, he doesn't really need to be in JL, except maybe a cameo. At least not the first one.
Poolio
Poolio - 5/19/2014, 7:03 PM
No, enough with the Nolan "Batman" already.
HulkSmash89
HulkSmash89 - 5/19/2014, 7:18 PM
See I was thinking the same way at first with Nolan trilogy to keep it out but I usually flip flop on it. See I think that Justice League roster should be Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash ,Green Lantern, Aquaman and Green Arrow. I know that they said Cyborg is going to be in it but I never found him to be an exciting character. That's just my opinion. The only problem with this many characters is that their all strong personalities and how are you going to fit all of them in on a standard comicbook movie run time.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 5/19/2014, 7:49 PM
TheMexicanSuperman I was with you right up until...

" Hell the X-Men leather suits are better than Flash's CW suit."



They are the bottom of the CBM barrel and not even the CW getups are worse that the X-suits.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 5/19/2014, 7:53 PM
Singer made the X-Men look like Nationwide Insurance agents.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/19/2014, 8:17 PM
The greates trick the Devil ever played was convincing Warner Brothers to move on from the Nolan Abtman films and not use it to anchor their shared universe. If they had not done that they would be working on their fifth movie in their shared universe. They would have four superheroes ALREADY established (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and potentially Nightwing. Their shared universe would have come BEFORE Marvels since Batman Begins came out in 2005 and Iron man came out in 2008. No one would be wasting there time criticizing Ben Affleck since the previous Batman is the most popular anchoring TWO billion dollar films. They would have benefitted from the backstory that was established in the Dark Knight films. Characters such as Bruce Wayne as portrayed by Christian Bale and Lois Lane as portrayed by Amy Addams could be counted on to have a strong onscreen chemistry since both actors are known to work well togther. Instead of the consistently bad publicity such as the backlash against Affleck, WB would have continued to benefit from all of the marketing that made the Dark Knight movies a success. The pairing of Bale's Batman and Cavill's Superman would all but gurantee a billion dollar take from the movie.

The only reason WB and the DC cinema brand is in the position they are in is because of one BAD decision!
Forthas
Forthas - 5/19/2014, 8:20 PM
* Batman*
*guarantee*
DeathstrokeTerminator
DeathstrokeTerminator - 5/19/2014, 9:15 PM
@Forthas
The blame for that falls on Nolan and not WB actually. He did not want his Batman to be connected to anything since before he made Batman Begins. And I love the trilogy but Nolan's super realistic take on Batman would not fit in a world with Wonder Woman and now Superman in it.
Guido
Guido - 5/20/2014, 5:22 AM
Unlike a lot of people commenting I agree with connecting the tv series as it provides a larger universe. I also agree think that the events of the Dark Knight trilogy should be canon. This is not because I think they are the best and I do take issue with too much realism. I just provides an experienced background to Affleck's Batman and spares us from seeing another origin.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 6:26 AM
@ DeathstrokeTerminator

No the fault is ALL Warner Brothers. You cannot find me 1 quote from Nolan where he indicates that they cannot continue the universe he created. In fact he suggested the EXACT OPPOSITE when he encouraged Warner Brothers to do a Catwoman spinoff using the character he had established whether he was the director or not. I find it funny that he would encourage adding to the Catwoman story which exists in the same universe, but be opposed to Batman...AND... even more importantly...Who cares if Nolan did not want his Batman connected to something else. The rights of the movies and the character of Batman is owned by Warner Brothers. They do not need his permission.

Finally the nonsensical argument that the world of Batman is "too realistic" doesn’t hold water unless you believe in : a microwave emitter that turns water in to gas instantly; a Bat-mobile (which is essentially a tank) that can jump from building to building and later across a river; a device that can summon and apparently control swarms of bats; a gadget that can reconstruct shattered bullets; a man who walks around with half his face burned off; a sonar device that takes over peoples cell phone to create a sonic image of any place in the world; a mercenary (Bane) who is able to punch through concrete pillars without breaking his hands; or a program that can wipe out your entire existence from every computer on earth.

There is plenty of fantasy in Batman to accommodate a less fantastic Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern which despite claims to the contrary COULD BE DONE!
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 6:37 AM
@ sintzu

I should say that they have made a bad decision during the current wave of super hero world building which according to many started in 2008. So yes you are right, they made a lot of bad decisions prior to that but they were not necessarily that far behind their rivals at Marvel studios. BUT now since 2013, they have been sinking like a stone and falling farther behind Marvel by; 1) world building from a single movie instead of five; 2) making controversial casting decisions; and 3) seemingly creating their DC universe on the fly without any planning.
KingQuicksilver
KingQuicksilver - 5/20/2014, 9:55 AM
''Part of Nolan Trilogy''









































let the nolan trilogy be done. its over. move on those movies were Great but we need something new for [frick]s sakes
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/20/2014, 10:09 AM
Green Lantern fits in more with the DCCU than Nolan's trilogy does.
Nolan's trilogy has made it clear that "super" heroes don't exist.
Nor shouldn't, TDK trilogy was barely an adaptation of the comics, sure the films are good but they're hardly CBM's.

I think GL can and should be in the DCCU,
If the Norton Hulk movie can be classed as a loose part of the MCU then GL can be DCCU's Hulk.
The film was bad but the casting and acting was great, it was the writing that let it down.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/20/2014, 10:11 AM
Batman is like James Bond.
There can be several incarnations over the years and people don't need to directly know all of the backstory of each Bond, so with Ben Affleck's Bruce, we as an audience can recognise that Batman is older and retired without needing to know everything about his past or saying "Nolan's trilogy is his past".
Klone
Klone - 5/20/2014, 11:37 AM
The Nolan Trilogy is dead now accept it. It's as dead as Batman's parents are. You hear me? THEY'RE DDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDD!!!!!
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 11:39 AM
The Nolan universe should not only be cannon but should anchor the entire DC universe. The only people to benefit from the Batman reboots are Marvel. Why? Because doing so saturates the market with the same character making anything unique about them less interesting - not more so. We recently learned this lesson with the Amazing Spider-man a reboot that happened too soon. As you can see the diminishing returns from that venture has made it so that neither rebooted movie from that franchise has thus far ever matched the success of the first three...no matter how many villains or iconic scenes like the death of Gwen Stacy that they put in the films.

Batman versus Superman will occur in exactly the same way. No matter how many Justice League members they try to shove into the film, it will barely do better if at all than Man of Steel. The idea that you can just replace characters every so often is absurd in CBM''s. Man of Steel which is over 30 years removed from the first two Superman films is STILL being compared with Reeves take on it. The fact that Zack Snyder seemed surprised by that when he stated "Everyone clings to the Christopher Reeve version of Superman" when his Superman was criticized is an echo of all of the other people on this site who are tone deaf to what the public wants and it is not a movie about an old super hero fighting with Superman played by an actor who nearly no one wants in the part. They will cling to the Christian Bale version which they have come to love and the fact that there was no reason to not continue with him in the role will make it all the more likely that fans reject this "new" Batman.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 12:37 PM
@sintzu

"when batman begins came out did it have the same problim as man of steel and amazing spider-man in terms of the public not accepting bale over michael keaton ?"

Excellent question!!!!

The reason that it was different was because the immediate past version of Batman was BAD! In the case of Spider-man and recently Batman, the immediate past versions were generally liked. You could argue "well what about Brandon Routh? But that actually somewhat proves the point the box office take for Man of Steel and Superman Returns domestically is $276,458,500, and $243,152,100 respectively...not that big a difference. Man of Steel made a huge amount more overseas, but it is common knowledge that the international market for films has exploded in the last decade which Superman Returns did not benefit as much from. Looking at the domestic numbers it did not do that much better. In fact neither film has reached the adjusted box office success of the first two Superman films.

I am glad someone on this site realizes that the public is vastly bigger than the people who are focused on comic books. While people may criticize Warner Brothers for a movie like Green Lantern, their biggest sin was listening ONLY to comic book nerds and making a film only they would like.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 1:16 PM
@ sintzu

"did begins reach the adjusted box office of the 89 batman ?"

No but its overseas business brought it close enough overall to warrant a sequel. The same thing happened to Man of Steel. Unfortunately for Henry Cavill he does not get the chance to expand on that success with a solo sequel. which means within the next five years they should be rebooting one or both Man of Steel and Batman.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 1:23 PM
What should have been..
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 2:10 PM
@ sintzu

Nice find!

I think those pictures speak for themselves. It was a bad mistake to change Batman. I think they are going to laugh at Affleck.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/20/2014, 2:47 PM
I am not sure what Affleck could do to win everyone over. I loved Henry Cavill as Superman. I don't think he is as good of an actor as Christopher Reeve, but I thought he did a fine job. But that still did not stop people from comparing him to Reeve even though Reeve is not even able to take over the role. When Fox studios' tried to reboot X-men with First Class we saw it happen again as it became one of the worst performing X-men films and luckily they did not try to reboot Logan (Wolverine).

That is why I say that Warner Brothers should have stuck with Bale and could have built a shared universe that is better than Marvels.
B33pz
B33pz - 5/20/2014, 10:12 PM
I believe the Nolan films can be in cannon. That's the beauty about the trilogy is that it left everything open ended in my opinion. It was Batman just starting out. It proved to us that anyone can be batman. Affleck will own.
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