Spider-Men after the movies: the lives of Tobey/Peter and Andrew/Peter as Spider-Man

Spider-Men after the movies: the lives of Tobey/Peter and Andrew/Peter as Spider-Man

Here’s what I think happened in the original timelines of Spider-Tobey and Spider-Andrew after their movies ended up till today. Given what we know, I speculate the timelines

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By ager - Dec 22, 2021 04:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Oh the things Spider-Tobey must’ve seen…

 There were talks of a foolish Mysterio and a pay off to the slow burn of Lizard. Rumors of Vulture and some combination of Black Cat and a Vultress also made rounds. I think it’s safe to assume he and MJ had a daughter in Mayday Parker. I’d like to imagine an occasional, heroic partnership with Sandman as well. It seems reasonable that J Jonah Jameson is such a pain in the A that a Scorpion confrontation as well. That should get us to present day quite well with enough headaches to last 14+ years.

Spider-Garfield, on the other hand, was setting up either one more movie, or 800 more just in the basement scene alone. 

I’ve looked at what we know and deduced 2 movies (that should’ve been more) from it. To truly set up a Sinister 6 finale, I’d like to see 2 3 movies with 4 villains, a 5th villain running the show the entire time only to intro the 6th in the final film seeing the team face the hero (I guess). That being said, here’s the 2 movies that catch Spider-Gar up to present day (as best I could)

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Parker, in continuing to research the death of his parent, learns Gustav Fiers has a lethal reputation in the criminal underworld and a sinister association with Oscorp. In response to Richard wanting to expose his research after learning it was to be used nefariously, Fiers arranged for the Parkers to be killed by a man known as The Chameleon.

Norman Osborn, before his death, bankrolled the machines that are expected to enhance the Sinister 6 AT THE REQUEST of Fiers. 

Meanwhile, Tombstone breaks into Ravencroft to kill Harry Osborn only to casually walk by dead guards and a seemingly very aware, suspiciously calm, Fiers.

Felicia Hardy is now head of Oscorp. Her number 1 is Roderick Kingsley. Kingsley works behind the scenes with Fiers, and doctors, Ratha and Smythe. The 2 doctors are introduced to Dr. Miles Warren (replacing Conners) and “the collective” is pushed to increase their respective fields.

A unnamed man (but clearly Kraven to fans) hidden in shadows, sniffs around the empty cell of Harry.

Parker is stuck on Gwen’s death and feeling he is the reason all the people around him suffer. He leaves May.

Tombstone, unnamed as well, kills Dr. Conners. 

Spider-Man decides his only resolve is, to once again, search for the burglar that killed Ben.

A freed Rhino is left beaten for the cops. Spider-Man is given the credit but Rhino flips out screaming it was Tarzan. The suit is deemed unsuccessful and Dr. Ratha puts the heat on Smythe for it. 

Following descriptions of Tombstone after the deaths of Harry and Conners, Spider-Man begins searching for him. Spider-Man is tracked by Kraven who talks out loud naming himself and Tombstone so to impart that knowledge to viewers.

Spider-Man eventually finds the burglar, this time, with his head shaved to the amusement of Spider-Man. Although he does not kill him, he does beat the snot out of him (a culmination of Ben, Gwen and her father’s deaths for which, again, he blames himself) and leaves him for the cops.

Chameleon unexpectedly finds his way into Oscorp and kills Kingsley only to appear as Kingsley moving forward without the viewer fully comprehending his motifs.

Spider-Man locates Tombstone but winds up saving him when Kraven shuts the power off and attacks from the darkness. 

The collective resurrect a frightened and confused Electro. Smythe admires the Octo arms.

Hardy befriends Peter at Harry’s funeral. Kraven watches from afar.

The collective bail the jailed burglar, named Adrian Toomes, out of jail.

Tombstone speaks to “The Big Man” who is revealed to be a still alive, miraculously healed, Norman Osborn. “We need Spider-Man. What destroyed Harry will empower me. He is the key to my survival.”

Spider-Man is once again researching the death of his parents when the TV announces a special report that a man with a lion’s hide draped around his shoulders is terrorizing Oscorp. 

Fiers and Kingsley meet with the collective offsite to learn they are very close to completing the team that will thrust the world into darkness. Smythe shines the Octo arms.

When Fiers drives away with Kingsley, the latter stops the car and points a gun at the former. “Here’s the thing. Years ago, a man was murdered at your behest, from the safety of your home. (He touches his face to reveal the {technology of the} Chameleon mask). Mary’s blood is on my hands. Arguably, however, it’s on yours too. That day, as she lay there bleeding, we fought as the plane was crashing. It was quickly after that when I realized something. If I killed him, I could become him (he takes the mask off to reveal his true face, he is actually Richard Parker) and as the new Chameleon, I could quietly do what I needed to in order to find you, and all of those involved, and make you all pay for what you did. You took my wife from me and us from our son. Stay away from my boy.” As Fiers swears to stay away, he is killed in cold blood.

Spider-Man arrives at Oscorp and battles Kraven and Tombstone (fighting each other) while Kraven says his fight is with Oscorp. In this moment, SM has an epiphany. Kraven, like himself, seeks vengeance and that’s not the answer. He realizes he has to take down an enraged Kraven. SM almost believes he has to kill Kraven to stop him, but finds an alternative that leaves Tombstone to, unfortunately, escape.

Kraven swears he will “kill Osborn, Richard Parker (for killing his brother therein informing Peter that his father is alive) and NOW YOU, SPIDER-MAN.”

The whole thing, witnessed by Hardy, has her questioning the validity of Oscorp.

The movie ends with Spider-Man reconciling with May, trying to find his father, and learning his father has taken on the mantle of The Chameleon.

Mid credits: 

  1. Norman

flanked by the collective and 

  1. Tombstone

with 

  1. Smythe in the Octo arms 
  2. Electro
  3. Toomes
  4. and a jacked up, re-suited, and very angry, Rhino

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Madam Web seeks out Spider-Man to guide him in winning against the Sinister 6. She warns him about many things. 

Norman sheds his skin to reveal the Goblin underneath. He tells his team Fiers was going to double cross all of them and they, together, will carry out the plan and achieve superiority as a team. Felicia Hardy finds out.

SM does find his father and it’s bitter sweet. They form an alliance with Hardy when Madam Web persuades them to align with Hardy as she has abilities unbeknownst to her.

A raid by the Six ends with them stealing a powerful electro-magnetic generator.

Madam Web gets a vision of a pack of wolf pups hunting spiders. Growing weaker, and sensing her own demise, she tasks Richard to protect her.

The 6 steal a tank from a military base followed by Electro powering the generator thereby erasing all electronic records across the grid and shutting down all electronic systems, instantly resulting in massive prison riots and escapes.

Kraven escapes.

5 of the Sinister 6 (with Osborn not present) publicly threaten to release the contents of the stolen tank; a special catalyst that would destroy all ink it came in contact with, erasing all paper records. The resulting loss of information would trigger a worldwide financial collapse, as gang warfare became the only way to survive amid the chaos. 

Spider-Man and Black Cat battle the 5 members of the Sinister 6 before they can release the contents. Clearly outmatched, the heroes struggle to survive. As the 5 villains surround Peter to deliver the killing blow, in swoops the scaly, monstrous, Green Goblin who insists he deliver the death blow.

Kraven arrives alongside Sasha, Ana, Vladimir, and Gregor and assist SM and Black Cat in defeating the S6. The heroes gain the advantage when the Green Goblin changes back into Norman. Kraven realizes that SM was right and spares Osborn. The gesture is ignored when Osborn (in a nod to the original trilogy) stabs and kills Kraven with his glider. Ana, in turn, kills Osborn.

The Kravinoff family vows to, another time, kill Spider-Man for mind-screwing the patriarch and allowing this to happen.

Spider-Man and Black Cat return to Madam Webb and Richard to find Richard dead and Web dying at the hands of Calypso before she vanishes. In her last breath, Web bequeaths her abilities (and disabilities) to Black Cat (who honorably accepts the sacrifice).

In the mid credits, we learn Hardy turned over Oscorp to Peter if anything were to happen to her, firing the many corrupt employees and suggesting he rename it Parker Industries. Parker, now the CRO of Parker Industries, hires May as his Chief Operating Officer, Stan Lee as his Chairman of the Board, Flash Thompson as Chief Security Officer, Betty Brant as Chief Financial Officer, Hobert Brown as Chief Technology Officer and Mary Jane Watson as his Chief Marketing Officer who assesses the situation and says “Looks like you just hit the Jackpot.”

The 5 surviving sinister villains are locked away and the Kravinoff family, aided by Calypso, resurrect Kraven.

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