EDITORIAL: What happened with Arrow?

This "editorial" , much like your spelling, is disappointingly poor. Structure it correctly, actually add some content, and then try to get people to take your opinion seriously.

Also @DRJ01 ... did you see anyone die? Because it was confirmed none of the League members died... also "Now the flash will suck next year when they spend their time on Supergirl." One producer of the 3 is on Supergirl...

I find people who claim Arrow's storyline has gone down hill...really aren't very in tune...to anything,

I don't get the hate at all for S3. This season has been a lot more about character development than past seasons. And when it IS crowded, it's not in an obnoxious or unnecessary way.

Ollie's speech from Uprising is one of the most badass moments on TV ever, IMO.

I'm actually liking season 3, not as much as season 2 but more than season 1. I somewhat agree, with all the new characters, the show is losing a little too much of it's focus off of Oliver. Only thing is, I think the producers know this, which is why we are getting the spin off show, to take up some of those story arcs. I believe more will be coming as well... really hoping one is Birds of Prey.

@GentlemanlyBatman, It's my first article and I am open to any sugestions

@Arrowverse your telling me a burning arrow to the chest and the guy falling then rolling down the hill. Plus, most likely, no medical attention. Ya he's alive alright. Just like how Arrow can get stabbed and fall down hundreds of feet and not splatter. You know what? It's possible. But highly unrealistic, like the show

I think a lot of it has to do with the producers, caring more about the Flash. So Arrow got tossed to the side like the ugly child. I think the best way to save Arrow is to embrace the crazy side of Green Arrow. What needs to happen is bring in the Liberal, wise talking man and the real Green Arrow. I also think the show needs to embrace more superpowered villains. This will make Oliver find a way to make better weapons. I don't see him using the nitrogen or napalm arrows, but the electric and net arrows could work.

It's simple.

Season 2 was too awesome. Season 2 was all about Oliver wanting to become more then a vigilante. He wanted to honor Tommy and that season showed Oliver become a hero and be something more then a killer which he kind of was in Season 1.

You also have Canary, Grant Gustin's Barry Allen showing up, Oliver training Roy, Brother Blood and last but not least, the badassness of Deathstroke. Sure Deathstroke's motivate was a bit weak but his badassness makes up for it.

Season 3 doesn't feel like there's a conflict as interesting as 2's.

Meh, I'm still enjoying season 3 as much as I did the previous seasons, all that matters to me

Season 3 isn't bad, but just disappointing.

I agree with our @DrDoom

BTW, I just saw @DrDoom last sunday morning!

Characters who I dislike:

Felicity
Amanda Waller
Lyla (Diggle's Wife)

ARGUS is retared this Season. Why tf in the flashbacks would Amanda Waller need the help of Oliver [frick]ing Queen to find that Omega Bomb. The dude can only use a bow and arrow, so why is he their top choice? Also, Oliver has the worst hair in the flashbacks. Fakest looking wig.

Diggle's connection to ARGUS seems very stretched to me, and I see noooo chemistry between him and Lyla. I forget they have a baby too. Diggle's wife and child have been so pointless so far, the writers should utilize them for something.

Also, Diggle needs some sort of costume. Not over the top, just something similar to Mockingbird on Agents of Shield. And maybe some sort of mask to cover his identity.

What's wrong with Arrow?
The writers have put all their focus on The Flash and Arrow have taken the backseat. Wasn't having this mess and rushed stuff when it was just one show to focus on.

Laurel Lance is just a jacked up character. When you have to dumb down enemies in order to make her relevant, then there is a big problem.

The show is rushing too much and trying to do things because the comics did it.
The most logical thing for Team Arrow is Oliver and Diggle be out on the field and DIggle having a costume. Dig has trained the longest and is the most suitable to be out in the field.

Roy still needs to be training. He hasn't trained long enough in order to be even on Diggle level yet. It's still unbelievable to see him fighting thugs and shoot a straight Arrow.

Laurel needs to be dead instead of Sara. Why? Because Sara is the most liked character out of the two and Laurel has been a train wrecked written character since the existence of the show.

The writers need to treat Oliver's rogue with respect and come up with interesting stories with his rougue's instead of this Batman storyline. It's a shame that a character like Kamodo could not be a series bad guy especially when you here what he has done in the comics. Instead he is a villain of the week character that is struffle to the side and wasted.

I have seen every episode of the show and I'm a fan but what i say will piss people off. It's not that Arrow got bad, it's that it's always been one thing and now we have something to compare it to and it's just not as good as other comicbook shows. Every episode of the flash moves the character forward. Every episode uses almost completely and accurately a character we remember from the comics. It seamlessly mixes humor, character development, plot, while winking and nodding at the source material. All over it's a better show. AOS does the same thing (this season) while also maintaining and setting up an expanded universe.

Compare that to Arrow that has almost offensively manipulate the source material to cover up the fact that this is a show about Batman that just inserted different names and put perfectly identical to the comic costumes on them so that you'd know who they are because they are nothing like their comic book counterparts (besides Roy) and now we've got a completely trite storyline we read in batman and saw in Batman begins. combine that with the very predictable nature of the baddy of the week stories, Olivers resurrection that felt completely pointless, the total costume party and contrived drama and you get the current season. Only character i care about is Ray Palmer.

I've been watching Arrow since the original Pilot and I completely agree with you about the show's quality dipping. But I don't think it's from overcrowding. I blame Season 3 for 2 reasons:

1) Tumblr. Call me crazy but A LOT of movies and tv shows now listen to Tumblr since that's where majority of fans are networked (besides Facebook and Twitter). A lot of these fans are crazed, horny teens or people with severe autism. The whole Olicity bs spawned from that. In fact, Felicity herself has become a real emotional c*** this past season so I blame them for that.

2) The Flash. I don't know if it's from there now being 2 DC shows (3 if you count this spin off), but ever since The Flash debuted, the quality for Arrow has gone down a whole lot since the creators are doing more than 1 show now.

On a side note, it could be a Dark Knight situation where the 2nd season was so incredible that nothing else can compare to it. I mean we did get Geoff Johns as the writer for that season which season 3 doesn't have. But now he's coming back for season 4 so I hope the quality goes up a lot.

What's wrong with Arrow?

People can't pay attention and bitch about so-called "over-crowding" but S3 is far from that. In fact, S3 has carried the strongest character arc for Oliver Queen which has somewhat started back last season with the first time he lost Queen Consolidated as well as losing his mother, Moira. This is why bringing Ra's al Ghul into the series is a natural progression as well as being a great character to use even if some would like to call it "copying Batman". Bruce Wayne would have never accepted Ra's al Ghul's offer, but what S2 started has shown a position in Ollie's life where he could do such. He lost both of his parents now, he lost his company twice, he has no personal life outside of being The Arrow and he's barely there to call himself Thea's brother. This season is asking the question of "Am I Oliver Queen or The Arrow? Can I be both or do I have to choose?" whereas Ra's al Ghul's offer is giving him a new path to take now without choosing to be Oliver Queen OR The Arrow. This season has THE strongest arc for Ollie when looking at all three seasons. That alone makes S3 the best season of Arrow so far.

And all of these side characters....they just add to S3. Roy has become the sidekick, but he's becoming his own person as Arsenal now and not just the typical sidekick; him and Laurel's transition into changing the foundation of "Team Arrow" was shown during the "Brick trilogy". Laurel's development continued from S2 but is a parallel to Ollie's flashbacks with being in brand new territory as well as learning new techniques as much as Ollie dealing with a Mirakuru-powered Slade Wilson helped him be better at dealing with a Mirakuru-powered Roy last season. Ray Palmer's storyline fits to a 'T' with taking over Queen Consolidated that in turn gives him the extra incentive in creating the A.T.O.M. exo-suit. And blame Tumblr or Twitter or whatever but yes, Ray and Felicity and Ollie are within a love triangle. A lot of shows does this, but Ray is the exact opposite of Ollie and there is a parallel that way that stays true to Ollie's arc as Ray will end up handling being Ray Palmer as well as "The Atom".

I will remember the comment below me when Arrow actually gets renewed for a fifth season.