ECHO: Charlie Cox And Vincent D'Onofrio's Roles In The Series May Be Bigger Than We Initially Expected

ECHO: Charlie Cox And Vincent D'Onofrio's Roles In The Series May Be Bigger Than We Initially Expected

Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio are now both part of the MCU, but before Daredevil and The Kingpin clash in Daredevil: Born Again, they'll return in Echo...in a much larger capacity than we anticipated!

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By JoshWilding - Mar 08, 2023 06:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Echo
Source: Deadline

Yesterday evening, news broke that Jon Bernthal is set to make his MCU debut as The Punisher in Daredevil: Born Again. The actor previously played Frank Castle in Daredevil and The Punisher on Netflix, and while we don't know what role he'll play in this story, fans are keeping everything crossed that Bernthal has a bright future working alongside Marvel Studios. 

The Man Without Fear's 18-episode TV show - which we've heard could be split into three 6-episode mini-seasons - will pit Matt Murdock against The Kingpin, but we'll be seeing them before then. 

Photos from the set of Echo confirmed Vincent D'Onofrio will return as Wilson Fisk in the Hawkeye spin-off, but Charlie Cox's involvement has only been rumoured up until now.

However, buried in The Hollywood Reporter's story about Bernthal's return is the fact, "both Cox and D’Onofrio are key figures in the upcoming Echo, a series said to set the stage for Born Again."

This lines up with what a number of scoopers have been claiming in recent months, and comic book fans will likely be able to piece together how this is going to play out. While Maya Lopez has yet to meet Daredevil in the MCU, she's already gunned down Fisk the same way her comic book counterpart once did. 

However, just like the Fisk on the page survived (and was temporarily blinded), so too has D'Onofrio's take on the villain. 

Establishing Daredevil and Echo as allies could be key to Born Again and one popular theory is that The Kingpin is somehow able to shed his villainous image and run for New York City's Mayor. If that does indeed happen, then it might lay the groundwork for Spider-Man 4 as well. 

Shooting begins on Daredevil: Born Again this month in New York ahead of a planned 2024 premiere on Disney+.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/8/2023, 6:06 AM
Echo is a waste of time, why not use it on one of the other defenders?
Fogs
Fogs - 3/8/2023, 8:11 AM
@bobevanz - I have zero hype but hey, I've been surprised before with Loki. Who knows.
Origame
Origame - 3/8/2023, 6:10 AM
Of course they are. Marvel knows there's like zero hype for this series otherwise.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/8/2023, 7:02 AM
No surprise there. Echo was a supporting character to Daredevil in the comics, and Kingpin should be enough reason for Matt to show up.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 3/8/2023, 7:39 AM
Of course, they'll tease him non-stop till this comes out and probably will keep teasing till last episode or 2 just like with She-Hulk whether he shows up or not. They need to try trickery and manipulation tactics to get people watching. People will watch to see him since Echo has zero interest for everyone.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 3/8/2023, 7:42 AM
They are doing exactly what the comics have done for the last 15 years; push their unpopular new characters and pad them with appearances from the character people actually want to see.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/8/2023, 8:09 AM
@Ryguy88 - it's bullshit isn't it.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 3/8/2023, 10:53 AM
@marvel72 - with dwindling sales it seems they will ultimately suffer the same fate.
rychlec
rychlec - 3/8/2023, 7:46 AM
I'd like to see Kingpin sized up a bit more. Fighting Daredevil is one thing but if he's ever going to, potentially, go up against Spider-Man, he needs a lot more physicality.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/8/2023, 8:12 AM
@rychlec - the only good thing Hawkeye did right was having a more powerful Kingpin. Rumor is they wanted to buff him more but the bigger suit is all they did, in the end.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/8/2023, 7:51 AM
Of course they will be,Echo isn't interesting enough to carry her own show, I keep forgetting she was in Hawkeye.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/8/2023, 8:13 AM
@marvel72 - which was a pretty forgettable show in itself, btw.
JDL
JDL - 3/8/2023, 4:10 PM
@Fogs - Actually it was damn good imo.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/8/2023, 4:36 PM
@JDL - to me it's tied with what if as the worst d+ mcu
JDL
JDL - 3/8/2023, 6:11 PM
@Fogs - Gotta say I feel a little sorry for ya but tastes do vary.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/8/2023, 7:20 PM
@JDL - same... but to each their own, right?
JDL
JDL - 3/9/2023, 2:25 AM
@Fogs - Yep. Just curious; what was off in it for you ?
Fogs
Fogs - 3/9/2023, 2:43 AM
@JDL - I found Kate extremely irritating, the story a drag with very low stakes and a specially badly written last episode. Looked like I was watching someone acting over a script written by a 9yo, such conveniend and unreal were the happenings. The very same feeling I had with Boba Fett finale btw.

But hey, I thought She-Hulk was OK for what it was so I can understand perhaps the show just wasn't for me.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/9/2023, 2:47 AM
Btw thanks for asking and being civil, it's strangely kinda rare nowadays when it involves disagreements. Talking about CBMs aspects always have been my motivation to keep coming back here after all these years.
JDL
JDL - 3/10/2023, 7:44 AM
@Fogs - Interesting. I didn't have those problems with Kate but that's just my taste and I suspect; my expectations. YMMV. I've liked all of the TV shows with two exceptions; "What if"; I can't get into animation at all and Moon Knight where I found the lead.character off-putting.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 3/8/2023, 8:58 AM
They are going to need to be. Nobody cares about Echo.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 3/8/2023, 8:59 AM
But then again Kingpin already had his ass handed to him by a teenage rookie girl in Hawkeye....so.....
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 3/8/2023, 9:12 AM
@TyrantBossMedia - sure did, super strength and all. And with a Hawaiian shirt on! It was like watching my dad, the Havana Hammer, get beat up by a bit👩h! 😅
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 3/8/2023, 10:32 AM
@TheWalkingCuban - Did he get beat up, or did he get blown up by an explosive arrow and then hit by a car?
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 3/8/2023, 10:53 AM
@EskimoJ - OK I’ll admit, I truly agree with you not with the others, but I join in on the joke.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 3/8/2023, 10:55 AM
@EskimoJ - valid, and yes I do agree with you, but sometimes I join in on the joke so much that I forget that fact: blown up and shot and still standing shouldn’t even bother them that it was women lol
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 3/8/2023, 10:53 AM
Maya Lopez is one of the worst Marvel comics characters ever created.
Daredevil is blind, but hasa radar sense.
Echo is deaf, but has photographic reflexes.
Lame.
StSteven
StSteven - 3/8/2023, 4:45 PM
So, it Kida seems like "Echo" is being used as a proper intro into the DD/Kingpin/Punisher street level side of the MCU, which is fine. Obviously Echo will have her own story arc in the show, but how much people will care about it will be determined by how compelling her story will be outside of the street level stuff, which will mainly come down to the writers, and I don't envy them as that's a pretty daunting task.

Otherwise, I'm pretty cool with what seems like the street level trajectory that the MCU is going with. IF this is the case, it seems like this: "Echo" (proper introduction of DD/KP) -> "DD:BA" (the real deal with the intro of the Punisher and possibly other Netflix characters like JJ) -> "Spidey 4" (Spidey + DD against KP and the other likely cohorts he's amassed, i.e. Silvermane, Hammerhead, etc.) -> ?

Either way, if "Echo" does (among other things) a good intro of at least DD and KP so that we can just jump into "DD:BA" without too much exposition then I'm all for it.
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