Lucas Till On Havok In X-Men: First Class

Hurry up and release this sh1t already! ; P

Comedian03 @ How could u be looking forward to this movie???

The trailer looks horrible and everything is messed up?

Fingers crossed this BOMBS!

It doesn't deserve nothing else.

Lee can't distinguish between a bad trailer and a trailer that doesn't meet HIS requirements. He wants Alex [frick]ing Planktier from I Am Number 4 for Angel for God's sake! That should tell you all you need to know.

If you don't think this looks good at least have real reasons and not fanboy gripes. All I have heard from anyone that complain about this is moans about the stuff they SHOULD have done differently and no comment on how the actual quality of the film seems to be shaping up. Are you movie fans? Or just comic fans that like seeing the pictures plastered on the screen as per your DEMANDS?

Whatever, it's funny to me. I just look forward to this movie being awesome and STILL getting flack.

This movie is a SLAP IN THE FACE @ Ror and you know it!

Comedian03 @ Would you like an AVENGERS movie with just Iron Man in and Jarvis as his Mother?

Didn't think so lol, thats all this is, pity FOX had a chance to actually turn the X-Franchise around.

MARVEL STUDIOS or bust!

What true fan wouldn't want this back where it belongs, in the real Marvel Cinematic Universe!

All this movie is, is a disgrace!

Yeah @Scarlet, Leee is right, it is a proven scientific fact.

@ leee777

i with you,mate.

have you notice that it fine to say that the movie looks good,great or even awesome by the look of the trailer.

but you can't say its going to be shit from veiwing the same two minute trailer.

You can say whatever you like, but if you don't have legit and valid reasons for saying it then we can't have a debate about it. I can't argue with "It sucks cos its a slap in the face cos they didn't use the right characters" because there is no logic there. It's an impenetrable defense against common sense. Give me some reasons as to why the actual movie looks BAD and not just fanboy bad and we can discuss it:)

I'm still mad that they made Banshee an American.

rofl @ Tea

@ DrFate

Thats funny, I remember Howard the Duck.

Ha! ^^funny shit

Oops, @Schemer snuck a comment in between

To @Schemer's point, I don't want to speak for Ror, but I can't help myself. Gotta interject.

The point he's making is it is fine if someone doesn't like the prospect of the movie because of the character makeup, but that doesn't make the movie "suck." That means you personally might not enjoy it as much, but how can that be enough for it to be classified as a bad movie?

That's when some folks start to come up with off the wall and illogical reasoning for why the movie will be FAIL. Just based on personal bias.

I get on these forums daily. I read the comments and I know the gripes, but I cant fathom why the hate? I'm an AVID collector of Marvel Comics. I know the stories, I know the histories and I respect the genre. We can quiz each other all day on it.

What I know from the comics is that every single writer gets on board and tries to take the characters into different areas and experiment. Its the essence of the character that must stay the same. Havok will be connected to Scott. Heck, even in the comics, they made reference to them being a part of a bigger scheme (Sinister). Its possible to have them just be test tube relatives that will share a connection to the Sinister love of Summer blood corruption. (There is even a storyline suggesting Gambit was related to Sinister created Summer brothers). I know the characters aren't the "First Class" from the comics but the only thing they share in common is the name. Vaughn has stated this is not the First Class from the comics. This is a different take on the characters. The cartoons from the 90's had a different line-up, the original 60's comics had a different lineup, Giant size X-men introduced a different lineup, Age of Apocolaypse, The new X-Men cartoon and Fox's version.

Every decade we get a new line-up and a new story and so on. All I know is that the last time I seen Havok in a tv show/movie it was a horrible ABC show and his character was wack. I'll take ANYTHING over nothing and I'm just glad these movies are being made .

As a film fan, I think this film is shaping up to be a belter. I haven't seen the trailer but from the stills and posters I've seen, it looks like they're putting quite a bit of effort into it. I couldn't give a rats arse what mutants are and are not in it, I'm more looking forward to seeing how the relationship between Charles and Erik disintegrates to the point that they become enemies.

@SeaSerp, you're missing the point, we're not saying because it's an alternate universe that it is a better film, just that it's a reasoning we have for not getting hung up on the whole "real first class" lineup. There are other factors that determine a movie's quality.

Well, I guess the release day will be the end all/be all. If it sucks it sucks, and if it doesn't it doesn't. Still wouldn't mind Marvel having the X-Men, just so we could see some crazy crossovers.

@ MovieTheaterLad I never got around to reading the Ultimate stuff. I did read ABOUT it though and found out that pretty much all the X-Men die, lol. I'll have to check it out.

@teabag, Thanks. @dfresh, You're right, but I was being a bit sarcastic, it might be a good movie but I just don't plan on seeing it as of now.

My personal opinion:

didn't think they should have made banshee american, but that's really my only beef with it so far. im not even mad about the so called continuity changes, because i see the x-men film universe as a separate universe from the comicbooks, like ultimate vs uncanny, etc.

im actually glad this has nothing to do with the 'first class' series, because that was pretty terrible if you ask me.... sure, id like to see a movie with the original crew, but that cant happen because of how they introduced drake and worthington as teens, jean and scott as adults, and hank as somebody much older in the trilogy.

as for havok as scott's (not) brother, im curious to see what they do, not entirely happy about the fact the the continuity is completely off in that respect, but i really dont think it could be helped. i really just want to see what they do with alex summers as a character, i can see him becoming a big hit amongst non-readers (what with having the most BAMF power alongside azazel in this movie, pun intended)

my prediction: the haters who have set out to hate it from the start will say they hate it no matter what, a good majority will like it though, and overall, i think it'll be pretty damn good. probably the best x-men film till date.

but of course, only time will tell

I don't really think the "first class" name is that big a deal. Weren't cyclops and jean xaviers first students? It looks to me like this is going to be before xavier even has students, or a school for that matter. So this is like a pre-xmen movie. Wasn't xavier in a wheelchair in the actual first class? i believe so. So obviously this is before the comics first class.