Preconceptions about Havok in 'First Class'.....incorrect?!

Preconceptions about Havok in 'First Class'.....incorrect?!

There is an important detail about the role of Havok in 'X-Men: First Class' that we may have missed

Editorial Opinion
By TheNameIsBetty - Feb 15, 2011 08:02 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men: First Class
Source: Wikipedia

I was doing some research on the films that would be coming out this year. With a spark of curiosity, I went to the Wikipedia page for 'X-Men: First Class'. Scanning over the info, I proceeded to go to Havok's page as well just to read what Wikipedia had to say. In the section titled "Other Versions", my eagle eye caught something that shocked me. Here is the paragraph for yourself. See if you can spot what I'm talking about.

"In the Ultimate Marvel continuity of Ultimate X-Men, Alex Summers, a.k.a. Havok, is the headstrong, brash field leader of the Academy of Tomorrow, the mutant peacekeeping squad of Emma Frost. In this incarnation, he is the boyfriend and teammate of Polaris.

In this incarnation, he also is the brother of Cyclops. As in the mainstream comics, their powers are useless on each other. However, there are several key differences: first, Alex is the older brother; second, in this world, Alex and Scott are frequently at odds with each other, both ideologically and physically; and third, neither seems interested in mending this rift. Ideologically, their rift was evidenced by Alex's affiliation with Emma Frost's Academy of Tomorrow. There is also more than one reference to their physical competition over Polaris. In one case, Alex even knocked out Scott with a wrench, though he states that this was because Scott let him. The two have shown to help each other in great danger, but in general, they have a lot of sibling issues separating them."

Did you see it? I remember that many fanboys began their hate-spree when they heard that Havok would be present in the film. Did anybody care to realize that Havok was Scott's older brother in the Ultimate Universe? Not to mention the fact that he's connected to Emma Frost who is also present in the film. Maybe the film isn't such a screwballed take at the X-Men after all. It seems like they didn't completely make things up, albeit they did MIX them up. Personally, I can't blame whoever decided to make this move. It's a strategic idea to include some of the best ideas from the comics to create a movie-verse with wider horizons.

X-Men: First Class is due to release on June 3rd, 2011. Speak your mind in the usual place.
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Exiles
Exiles - 2/15/2011, 9:28 AM
Yeah but the age difference between the ultimate versions isn't as big where as in this one havoks a teen in the 60's where as Cyclops still in High School in XOW which takes place some time in the 80's I believe maybe I am wrong. But then again I've heard some people say XOW is not canon any more so its possible that there taking some inspiration from the ultimate version
IronicMan
IronicMan - 2/15/2011, 10:54 AM
Nice Tron suit there Havoc.
Havok89
Havok89 - 2/15/2011, 11:12 AM
Havok looks kind of like Charlie Hunnam in that top photo lol
DarthGeoffPeterson
DarthGeoffPeterson - 2/15/2011, 12:24 PM
Again, where the hell are you ppl getting the idea tha X-Men Origins: Wolverine isn't canon?! I have never heard of such other than disillusioned fanboys who want this to be the case. Jackman plays Wolverine, Stewart is Prof. X, Stryker is the same [frick]ing character he is in X2, (which BTW is different than the comics), so this BS about it not being canon is ridiculous. Oh, and it is called X-Men Origins, right? Like a prequel to...hmm...X-MEN?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/15/2011, 12:28 PM
well, the Ultimate X-Men is a very "screwballed" take on the X-Men, so yeah, its still silly.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/15/2011, 12:30 PM
@ darth

couldn't agree more. I have no idea where people got that idea either. Everything in Origins melded with the X-Films. I don't get where people are coming up with that.
Frogman
Frogman - 2/15/2011, 12:41 PM
"The Wolverine" won't be canon (at least not with the other X-films) people seems to think this means XOW too. Silly silly people.

FC set in 1962, XOW set in 1979. Cyclops needs to be a baby or about to get born sometime soon for him to be 15/16/17 in XOW.
manymade1
manymade1 - 2/15/2011, 1:02 PM
No offense man, but I don't really see what the point of this article is. All your doing is telling us about his ultimate version.
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 2/15/2011, 1:03 PM
actually if you paid attention, The Wolverine was stated to not be a sequel to Origins but instead a standalone film. which means that it could take place at any time in the current X-film canon. after Origins, before or even after X3.

it's the Deadpool film that is going to ignore all X-film canon.
Imtooldforthis
Imtooldforthis - 2/15/2011, 1:14 PM
Nice read. If nothing else this article is informative, and hopefully will quash some of the battles going on. All in all, first class doesn't look as bad as I thought it would, while understanding you can't truly judge a movies success, from 2 minutes of footage.(Green Lantern)
As I stated in a previous post, of a different article, I want the movie to fail for selfish reasons, I want Marvel to have access to these characters for the universe they're creating on film, but as I pondered the thought, Marvel, nor Disney, will be able to bring us 4 Marvel movies in a single year, such as Captain America, Thor, First Class, and Ghost rider, so in the grand scheme of things, this is a not as bad as most think it is.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/15/2011, 1:23 PM
Yeah bringing [frick]ing ULTIMATE in it makes it so much better... not! : p

Come on MARVEL STUDIOS, we need it back where it belongs!


Cool spot tho @ Fartman! ; )


I've still got my [frick] you Fox card lol.

Frogman
Frogman - 2/15/2011, 1:31 PM
@Wadey09: Well that may be true but I still think thats why so many people don't think XOW is canon.
luckylu
luckylu - 2/15/2011, 6:16 PM
ultimate marvel blows. no cbm should have anything to do with the ultimate universe. good eye though fartman
AlexRogan
AlexRogan - 2/16/2011, 12:29 AM
MESSAGE TO ALL OF YA : I would certainly agree that films like "Batman & Robin" "Resident Evil 2" "Highlander 2" "Terminator 3" are complete turkeys. I would also say that films such as "Pirates : At World's End", Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions or Transformers ROTF were poorly written, filled with lousy dialogues and plot holes the size of Alaska. Heck man I could even agree with the genral hatred towards the lateste efforts from directors like McG., M.Night Shyamalan or Brat Retner... But I DO NOT GET WHY PEOPLE WERE EVEN SLIGHTELY DISAPOINTED BY THE LAST STAND !!!

And it's not just about me, but it's one of the first blurays my best friends and I bought, and we're not influenced by eachother's tastes... I'm talking 6 different guys with different backgrounds, pop culture references and standards. WE ALL LOVE IT AS THE PERFECT FINAL ACT OF A AMAZING TRILOGY. Dude, try to watch Origins first and then watch the trilogy, you'll see that the "ALKALI LAKE" story ark runs throughout in a consistent way, talking of continuity, it doesn't get better than that. In the course of 4 films, you get introduced to 30 different kinds of mutants, with different backgrounds, motives and powers.

I don't know what is not to like in the XMEN franchise. Richard Donner's wife Lauren Shuler is a clever woman, she knows where she's going here. For once, when you watch THE LAST STAND, you realize that this has been thought through, there is a master plan behind the work of Zac Penn and others. Kevin Feige producing it should be an indication that some real comic book guru geeks were in charge here. and what do you get?
A good story about the difference between gifts and curses, between power and compassion. and as far as action sequences go, this film is better than the other two, no offense. You get a DANGER ROOM opening sequence that kicks ass, with sentinels, Colossus rocking the boat, shadowcat and Iceman doing what they do best. You get a freaky scary performance by Flamke Janssen. You get an amazing scene in Jean Grey's house of pure mayhem. Gosh you even get the coolest moves from Mystique. If that is not enough, you get the badass fight between Wolverine and the bones growing dude in the forrest.
Finally there's the Alcatraz sequence at the end that no one got. People wonder why Magneto had to transport the Golden Bridge like that. Well... see, Magneto isn't just a mere human, he is a God amongst insects. He doesn't see things like you and I. When he looks at a bridge with heavy traffic and stopped cars, what he sees is a GIANT WEAPON of MASS DESTRUCTION. thebridge's the gun, and Pyro plus the cars equal bullets. He's a genius !

Well, even the gran finale between Logan and Jean where he delivers the "I Love You" line could be cheesy but it isn't, it simply works.

BOTTOM LINE : please do something for me watch ORIGINS, X1, UNITED & THE LAST STAND back to back, forget about the stupid haters who simply go with the general opinion, and you will realize that unlike other Marvel films, this one hasn't age at all and that the continuity there is just amazing.

PS : and as far as first class is concerned, take it as the orignal X team, as apposed to the trilogy which is like the "Next Generation". You know you'll witness Scott Summers's fathers first steps as Havok, Nightcrawler's father Azazel, or Emma's (origins) mother as the "White Queen", you'll see young Beast and Mystique, what is there not to like here...? all that in a Cold war / bay of Pigs, historical setting... dudes, I don't get you sometimes...

Alex Rogan.
JTheMostAwesome
JTheMostAwesome - 2/16/2011, 5:55 AM
@AlexRogan

It is refreshing to hear a "glass is half-full" frame of thought around here. I WILL re-watch them today and post my findings right here.
fullmetal
fullmetal - 2/16/2011, 12:03 PM
alex rogan. what about cyclops dying off screen? what about Rogue's absence only to pervert the whole message of x-men (tolerance) with her taking the cure? what about the ridiculousness of Magneto sitting in a park playing chess when he killed dozens of soldiers on alcatraz and made terrorist threats on national television? what about the improbable happy ending when human lives were destroyed by the mutant Phoenix on Alcatraz? If anything, prejudice towards mutants would have increased after the events in x3. x3 sucks a fat hard and long one...
fullmetal
fullmetal - 2/16/2011, 12:04 PM
oh and x-men first class is another batman and robin.
AlexRogan
AlexRogan - 2/17/2011, 12:54 AM
@fullmetal

what about cyclops dying off screen?
"Wel, I know what you're saying, but you're not supposed to realize what she did - or how - until she does the same to Charles Xavier. It's the mystery behind Dark Phoenix's persona that I find intriguing.

what about Rogue's absence only to pervert the whole message of x-men (tolerance) with her taking the cure?
Alright, it closes the story arc of her relationship to Bobby and Logan quite nicely, it wraps things up in a efficient way, without killing too much screen time, perfect compromise for me if you ask me.

what about the ridiculousness of Magneto sitting in a park playing chess when he killed dozens of soldiers on alcatraz and made terrorist threats on national television?

An old man playing chest alone in central park isn't exactly suspicious behavior my friend. I mean it's not like an islamist fundamentalist starting to pray loudly on board an aircraft... if you know what I mean ?

what about the improbable happy ending when human lives were destroyed by the mutant Phoenix on Alcatraz? If anything, prejudice towards mutants would have increased after the events in x3.

I don't think the end of X3 is about peace and eternal happiness at all but rather an ephemeral truce.

x3 sucks a fat hard and long one...

alright man, great ! as you wish. to me, it is one of the most solid movie franchises around, along with the Godfather and Startrek, but it's just my humble opinion, nothing more !
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