AVENGERS: ENDGAME Directors Weigh In On Filmmakers Continuing To Criticize Marvel: "Give Me A F***ing Break"

AVENGERS: ENDGAME Directors Weigh In On Filmmakers Continuing To Criticize Marvel: "Give Me A F***ing Break"

Avengers: Endgame directors Joe and Anthony Russo have talked more about the constant criticisms aimed at Marvel Studios movies, calling it a "juvenile conversation" and "sad, cynical and pessimistic."

By JoshWilding - Jul 21, 2022 10:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Filmmakers like Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola have frequently taken aim at the Marvel Cinematic Universe, making comments that have infuriated superhero movie fans. They're entitled to their opinions, of course, but the way those directors have outright dismissed the genre seems unfair and even a little misinformed. 

Avengers: Endgame directors Joe and Anthony Russo have never shied away from defending the MCU, and while they've since moved on to other projects, they remain steadfast in the belief that these Marvel movies are a valid form of cinema.

"The overwhelming success of those movies has caused them to represent something that has become 'other, or maybe not attainable to some others for whatever reason," Anthony tells The Hollywood Reporter. "Not every movie has to be liked globally."

Joe would add to that by saying, "When I was 19, I used to love U2. And then they started getting some commercial success, beyond their MTV early days, where they were the biggest band in the world. And I was like, 'I hate U2. I’m sick of U2. They’re so ubiquitous!' That was just my ego trying to define myself against the masses. Then, 10 years later, I was like, 'I [frick]ing love U2. Why did I do that?' I outgrew it. It feels like a very juvenile conversation."

"The whole thing feels sad and cynical and pessimistic. You’re talking about movies that 10-year-olds are weeping over and begging to go see," The Gray Man co-director continued. "They’ll remember for decades that they were there with their grandfather. Like, give me a [frick]ing break."

Since moving on from the MCU, the Russo Brothers have received mixed reviews for both Cherry and The Gray Man. It feels a little like some critics are trying to tell them to go back to making superhero movies (the response to the former was very harsh), and we can't help but wonder if that's down to their stuanch defence of the genre they made a name for themselves in. 

We can't imagine those who hate comic book adaptations changing their mind, and it probably doesn't help that the likes of Eternals and Thor: Love and Thunder have drawn mixed reviews. 

The Gray Man arrives on Netflix tomorrow.

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UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/21/2022, 10:29 AM
Man, it's gota be tough still having to answer questions about Marvel when they trying to promote their new Netflix movie. I heard its a bore though.... so maybe the interviewers are bored about asking about Gosling pretty face... but they not wrong.

Onwards to phase 5.
imnotadoor
imnotadoor - 7/21/2022, 11:39 AM
@UnderBelly - I think the people that criticize the movies just maybe want them to be less for 10 year olds and more for “adult” people seem to think that means rated r though
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/21/2022, 12:23 PM
@imnotadoor - well they need to appeal to all, I see that, but I think the audience is maturing faster than the movies.
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 7/21/2022, 1:19 PM
@imnotadoor - To be fair all the MCU films the Russo Bros made were more mature and not “for ten year olds” but as Comic Book films should be also very family friendly because all ages should enjoy these films. But films like Love & Thunder really bring the MCU down.
DarthGrizzly
DarthGrizzly - 7/21/2022, 10:30 AM
I mean, he aint wrong, but at the same time they've dipped in quality (IMO), is what it is, just enjoy what you want, [frick] what you don't enjoy, its that easy
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/21/2022, 10:42 AM
@DarthGrizzly - I wouldn't say that really. Phase 4 hasn't been as good as Phase 3, but Phase 3 was bonkers good and had 3 of the biggest movies in cinema history.

Phase 4 has been every bit as good as Phases 1 and 2, if not better.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/21/2022, 11:07 AM
@thewanderer - "Phase 4 has been every bit as good as Phases 1 and 2, if not better."

I don't think that's even close to being true. But it's all opinions.

I just know that I've only really enjoyed WandaVision, Loki, and Spider-Man out of Phase 4. Black Widow and Falcon/Winter Soldier were mediocre at best. Hawkeye was okay. Love and Thunder was one of the worst MCU movies yet. MoM, and Moon Knight was disappointing. Still haven't watched Ms Marvel.

I don't know. But I can't remember ever being this unimpressed with the MCU so often. And I think thats part of the problem. There has mostly always been buffers between the previously bad movies. Like we would get Thor 2, but the next movie would be great. I can't remember getting back to back projects I didn't like in the previous phases.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 7/21/2022, 10:33 AM
Scorcese chose to take his jab at Marvel while promoting The Irishman, and Coppola had a new one coming out as well when making his own statements. Make of that what you will.

Also...

"The overwhelming success of those movies has caused them to represent something that has become 'other', or maybe not attainable to some others for whatever reason."

... that's a very polite way of saying "sour grapes".
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/21/2022, 10:36 AM
@DrReedRichards - Did they volunteer tha5 POV? or was it today's journalism that are looking to stir shit though? Feels like the only thing that sells or gets clicks these days are people generally comparing on the state of things.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 7/21/2022, 10:38 AM
@UnderBelly -

Baity questions work on easily baited peple. Just because this is an unprofessional question for a journalist to ask an accomplished director doesn't give those interviewed any right to undermine the genre the way they have.
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/21/2022, 10:41 AM
@DrReedRichards - Fair enough.. but its just giving opportunity to continue the 'old men complain about modern times' schtick

Some of their complaints are warranted though. Especially when you think about how many show time slots Disney take up in a theater for all the things they own and hardly let's the indi or more original films to get a chance at building a good take back.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 7/21/2022, 10:44 AM
@UnderBelly -

I personally blame the greater theatre chains on that one. Not every room needs a screening of the latest MCU entry, and certainly not for as long as 10 weeks like we've seen at times. In smaller cinemas (I work in one) movies go through a lot more easily, with a balance between mainstream and indie.
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/21/2022, 10:48 AM
@DrReedRichards - At the rate their struggling to stay open, I don't blame them for wanting to say In business.

But yeah, the general audience these days are drinking at the Disney fountain.

It's a difficult one to reverse right now. Hopefully things change, and Top Gun I feel, even though its technically part a franchise now has shown some grace.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/21/2022, 10:36 AM


Anything mainstream for too long will become hated because it's at the forefront. Nothing, nor no one is above that. People feel like there's an oversaturation of it because that's all they see, but then when you look at the numbers they're the same as others
soberchimera
soberchimera - 7/21/2022, 10:37 AM
It definitely has to do with the franchise's popularity. Not just because hating on popular things is a seemingly cool thing to do, but also because it's just growing quantitatively.

We used to get six projects spread over multiple years, and now we get that same number each year. And that allows for more diverse stories to be told, and people don't like diversity.

So, now we don't have one project that seemingly sucks every other year or so, but a few each year.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/21/2022, 10:47 AM
@NateBest - this site pulls another crazy trick. I edited my comment below, and now it copies my old comment over that of @soberchimera
soberchimera
soberchimera - 7/21/2022, 12:34 PM
@NateBest - Ugh, now MY comment has been pasted over by bkmeijer1's comment.
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