Ant man? Seriously?

I completely agree with you. Ive been reading comics for 25 years. Im as big a fan as anyone can get, and im not even sure I would want to see it. Now just imagine what the general audience will think...

Preacherfanatic7 Dude that was very well said. I agree totally.

Everyone else. This movie will work. Trust me.

I remember when people said Iron Man, Cap, and Thor would flop, heh, even some said the Avengers would flop... but it seems no one remembers these things... lol

You make a good case. I think what Wright intends to do with the character could be vastly different from the books. He does add a different dynamic to the team. In a film an arc could include threads that connect to the wider universe. Or, like other MCU heroes, start out with characteristics that change throughout the course of the film. If Wright is given the breathing space he will make an entertaining movie. No Doubt.

Ant-Man will always be a hard-sell by name alone, story is an essential and EW can deliver. I just believe that whilst it won't be a top grossing film that CBMers are coming to expect nowadays, it could be a different layer in the the MU and create tension with Stark and Banner's budding bro-mance.

Whoever said Ewan McGregor may be onto something..

Im willing to bet that after the movie FINALLY comes out, half of you naysayers will be saying its one of the best films in the marvel franchise. Whys that? EDGAR WRIGHT!!! Have none of you people seen Scott Pilgrim?!? Everybody's so happy to jump on the Joss is God bandwagon, but i'd take Spaced over Buffy or Firefly any day. Avengers was awesome, a big movie in the hands of a unique writer/director. I can't wait to see Wrights sensibilities in a true superhero flick, ESPECIALLY one like Ant-Man. It's not about Marvel picking the most popular characters for their films, it's funding the ones that fit best in continuity. Also for all you haters, read the Irredeemable Ant-Man. It's amazing. That is all

I'd still like to see an Ant-Man movie, but I enjoyed reading this well-written editorial.

I'd like to see an Ant-Movie. Black Panther and GOTG I'm dying to see!

I couldn't disagree with you more if I tried.
Marrying someone who resembles someone important in your life is nothing new, nothing taboo, and is actually a LOT more common than you may think. Consider the Amazing Spider-man. Emma Stone and Sally Field have a very similar facial structure. Is that a form of an oedipus complex?
One other example that I immediately found myself thinking of is when I went to a Lindsey Buckingham concert a few years back. If you don't know who he is, he is the lead guitarist to the British/American rock band Fleetwood Mac, who had a relationship with lead vocalist Stevie Nicks before the band got together. Lindsey's wife was present at the concert, and it's amazing how much she looks like Stevie Nicks. Is that pathetic? No, it's natural.

Back to Ant-man as a standalone....
You really think he's just not interesting enough to be in a standalone film? I've heard this about a lot of characters and there are very few that I can agree on. Go to a Redbox and look at the selection. This action is free and doesn't require registration or anything. You'll see a swarm of all of these new releases that were probably out for half a month in theaters, some hits, but most are bombs or direct-to-dvd B-movies. The characters in these movies are no more interesting than Ant-man, but movies about them are constantly in production.

Let me tell you something, Spider-man is a really really boring character. Kid gets bitten by a spider, gets super strength, heightened intuitive senses, lightning fast reflexes, and enhanced durability. So what? My favorite video game series at the moment features a race of blue monogendered aliens called the "Asari" who are naturally "biotics", which is essentially another word for telekinetic. They can also manipulate minds and bond telepathically.

How interesting are these characters? Apart from the flashy light display, not very. One particular Asari, voiced by Carrie Anne Moss is like the Jabba of a particular site, known to be the head hancho, the one who everyone fears - but in actuality, the character sits on a couch and gives orders.

Superpowers don't make the characters interesting. It just so happens that the application of Pym particles has many variants and massive potential - suppose Pym wanted to drop a building on someone - he'd just carry it in his pocket. Practical purposes - how do you get the SHIELD helicarrier in the air without launching it and using all of that fuel and energy? Shrinking it.

You're also betting that Pym is going to be portrayed exactly like he is in the comics. Maybe he doesn't have a problem with stealing all kinds of secret weapons and technology, especially if he can get away with it.

I agree. There really is no need for him to have his own movie. I think he could just be introduced in the next Avengers or another movie where there is more than one hero and it would be fine. I have always seen him as kind of a whiny quitter.

Preacherfanatic - You make a very good point. I dislike Tony Stark so much in the Civil War series and pretty much everything that comes after it. I hope with all my heart that they steer clear of that story line with the movies. I just can't see it going over well with the movie fans.

I'm not an Ant-Man fan at all, but I think he would be perfect for Marvel/Pixar to make a movie. And do the live version as Giant-Man or Yellowjacket. Ant-Man is just too lame and kiddish for an adult audience to enjoy.

Question (and this is for everyone else but AcidicHeart, because we don't see eye-to-eye on anything): Do you also think that Martian Manhunter can't support his own movie?

@ tainted

Im not sure where you're going with that question, but I'll answer.

I think Martian Manhunter has a better chance of success than antman.. MM has a much better chance of the general audience thinking he looks cool. He's more visually appealing, and he has a much more interesting powerset than antman..

Remember, these movies live and die by the general audience, and I just cant see the GA seeing an antmam trailer and thinking he looks cool. Im fairly certain he will come off as incredibly cheesy and stupid. He definately has a place in an Avengers movie, but not a solo flick.

I would actually say the same about martiam manhunter though. He deserves a place in a JLA movie, but maybe not a solo film. Although I stand by what I said, I think a MM solo film would have a better chance of being successful than antman..

@ acidicheart

Its actually not that outlandish to think of him like that. Sure he backhanded her once like 20 years ago, but a lot of fans have a hard time seeing him as anything other than a wifebeater. His character just hasnt been able to past that horrible decision some writer decided to use a long time ago.

Tainted

Im with you, martian manhunter is my favorite JLA character too, unfortunately, very few people that dont read comics or watch cartoons have never heard of him.

'good dramatic moment'

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

Its ANT MAN.

Nobody is going to take it seriously. It would tank. Probably wouldn't make 10 million on its opening weekend.

agree with @preacher.
You assume that it must necessarily be his character as a violent abuser of his wife. Who said that? It is obvious that you know more than the new version that the original one. Throughout the early years (many years) Hank is represented only as a creative genius, in love and having some problems with stress and relationships. It can easily be portrayed that way. Remember that it's still a Disney movie

Ant-Man, or Giant-Man, and that talking Racoon are the worst things Marvel can put in the MCU. Hank Pym can be tweaked a bit so that he would work well, but the recoon is hopeless.