CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS: Marc Guggenheim Reveals Scrapped Plans For Michael Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor

CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS: Marc Guggenheim Reveals Scrapped Plans For Michael Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor

Arrowverse producer Marc Guggenheim has revealed what he had planned for Michael Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor in The CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover while detailing other ideas for the crossover...

By JoshWilding - Mar 12, 2024 08:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Smallville
Source: Marc Guggenheim

The CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover brought together the Arrowverse's characters and a long list of surprise guest stars. Smallville alums Tom Welling and Erica Durance were among them, but Michael Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor was sadly nowhere to be seen. 

Way back in 2019, Rosenbaum explained his absence from the event when he revealed, "[Warner Bros.] called my agents Friday afternoon...Their offer: No Script. No idea what I’m doing. No idea when I’m shooting. Basically no money. And the real kick in the ass 'We have to know now.' My simple answer was 'Pass.'"

Now, Arrowverse executive producer Marc Guggenheim has shed new light on what the event's creative team had planned for Rosenbaum's Lex. 

"By the time we’d engaged with Michael about appearing in Crisis - thanks in huge part to Stephen Amell's efforts - we’d already shot the Smallville reunion scene in Hour 2," he admits on his blog"Nevertheless, I was eager to get Michael's Lex into the story if I could, so my brain started working on options that could be fit into the episodes that we were still shooting."

"I forget the story impetus for them, but I noodled with a version where Michael’s Lex would interact with Jon Cryer’s Lex, which I think would’ve been quite entertaining had it come to pass," Guggenheim added.

In the same Q&A, a fan put it to the prolific writer and producer that Crisis could have easily featured a cameo appearance from Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman stars Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher. 

"I know we’d discussed bringing Teri back to reprise her role as Lois," he recalled. "I forget, however, why this never went anywhere but, you’re probably right, it was likely lack of money on our part."

It seems money also closed the door on us seeing Helen Slater as Supergirl. "I think it was just a matter of us picking our spots and there was certainly a desire to bring back actors who hadn’t been seen on an Arrowverse show previously," Guggenheim revealed before explaining why Durance's Lois didn't have a larger role in Crisis.

"Oh, there was absolutely a temptation for sure," he says. "As with most things, however, we were subject to the limit of a combination of screentime, story requirements, money, shooting schedule, and the actors’ personal schedules."

These restrictions aren't hugely surprising as the Arrowverse's biggest challenge was often huge ambitions on a low budget. Still, while these cameos didn't happen, fans did get to see the likes of Burt Ward, Kevin Conroy, Ashley Scott, and Ezra Miller. 

Were you happy with how Crisis on Infinite Earths turned out? Sound off with your thoughts in the comments section below.

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UniqNo
UniqNo - 3/12/2024, 8:51 AM
The multiverse is established now, bring him back, or as someone else. I think it would be kind of poetic if he got to play hologram Jor el! He gets to keep his hair that way!
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 3/12/2024, 9:53 AM
For a TV-like movie, I thought it was well written, acted, and had plenty of great cameos that didn't seem forced. I only wished they would have let Routh's Kingdom Come Superman have more time.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/12/2024, 1:46 PM
@lazlodaytona - Well written?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/12/2024, 9:58 AM
I kinda get why they didn't have a script butbwamted him on board. Think it's easier to know beforehand what characters can be used, instead of finding out they aren't available when the whole thing is written.

In this case though, the scene didn't sound significant. Would've been fun, but understandable he passed.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/12/2024, 10:19 AM
Jon Cryer was easily the lamest and most forgettable Lex I've seen.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 3/12/2024, 1:45 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Ive seen many worse. I grew to appritiate his take, but i never fully sunk into it. I cant stand bald Lex with a beard.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/13/2024, 1:49 AM
@HashTagSwagg - Yeah you know nothing.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/13/2024, 6:32 AM
@NinnesMBC - You know a more forgettable one?
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/13/2024, 7:52 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Yeah Jesse's for all the cringe noises he made throughout his perfomance down to the last "bells" ones he did when he was at jail. Or are you gonna imply a two times Emmy award winner like Cryer was worse than that? Please lmao.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/13/2024, 8:02 PM
@NinnesMBC - Jesse was hot garbage but the dude (for what little range he has) has some screen presence. Jon Cryer is so forgettable in the role, it doesn't even feel like he's trying, like maybe he was trying but he's got no presence, there's no weight, the dude is suppose to be lex Luthor and the only thing he brought to it was that unshaved pubic hair around his mouth.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/13/2024, 10:28 PM
@HashTagSwagg - What's the point of screen presence when every time he was in front of the camera his acting was like nails on a board? Lmao if the best you got to criticize his performace against Eisenberg's is a juvenile insult as poor excuse of a rebuttal then you're already losing this argument. Pathetic.
Imprtracr1
Imprtracr1 - 3/12/2024, 10:22 AM
Rosenbaum is still the best live action Lex Luthor to date by a country mile.
dragon316
dragon316 - 3/12/2024, 12:31 PM
@Imprtracr1 - he was my favorite live action lex and favorite animated flash
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/12/2024, 10:49 AM
Definitely seemed like they toyed with a bunch of options which makes sense , that tends to happen in the creative process..

A scene between Rosenbaum’s & Cryer’s Lex would have been fun since they are my 2 favorite live action versions of the character but oh well.

Crisis was enjoyable but already seemed to hit off more then it could chew so probably for the best they weren’t able to fit in more cameos.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/12/2024, 1:47 PM
Maybe you could've not wasted time on pointless cameos and random story directions that go nowhere, and instead tell a story.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/13/2024, 1:50 AM
@dagenspear - They did, the majority of the source material's main events were faithfully adapted.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/13/2024, 3:09 AM
@NinnesMBC - First of all, it adapting the comic, even if that were accurate, not only does that not mean it was done well, it also doesn't make it work in the show.


Second, as far as I've seen from the comic, I'd say you have a loose definition of "source materials main events". There wasn't the dumb paragons thing in the Crisis comic as far as I know. Or a random subplot where characters go to rescue Clark and Lois baby that's been kept by another universe Oliver. There wasn't a random subplot about finding a lazarus pit in another universe to put Oliver in and then going into his head to get his soul to connect with his body only for that to be pointless because he gets taken and becomes Spectre instead. The Anti-Monitor isn't defeated by shrinking him, which does nothing to negate the shadow creatures, he's flown into a star by a Superman in the comic. Barry Allen isn't set up to die only for it to just be another Barry from a different universe.

There were several similar events in it yes, but the crossover episodes were still bogged down by pointless random nonsense that meant nothing to the story and only kinda the characters.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/13/2024, 8:01 PM
@dagenspear - Your first sentence itself doesn't make any shred of sense at all.

The "pointless randon nonsense" of the subplots you speak of don't take away from the main events that were honored such as all of the Earths perishing because the Anti-Monitor took over Harbinger (who was also Lyla here) and then killed the Monitor as Pariah (Nash paying the price of his hubris for thinking he could expose these god like beings) witnessed everything happening and the Spectre getting involved to help revive the Multiverse so that everyone from previous dead Earths now share the same home. A Flash still died in the end to save them from the anti-matter wave and bought them more time like in the comics.

The concept of the Paragons was to introduce Brandon's Superman and for Kate Kane to realize she had to be a Paragon after seeing the fall of a Bruce doppelganger. That is how an adaptation is supposed to stand on it's own feet instead of just lazily copying and pasting.
valmic
valmic - 3/12/2024, 2:31 PM
They should have given us a 10 minute episode of what it would have looked like if Smallville became a Superman show and we see Welling in his suit dealing with Lex and showing how Clark retired and we fast forward to that scene on the farm. That whole event should have been planned out better and given the money it deserved to be a huge tv epic.
Blergh
Blergh - 3/12/2024, 2:55 PM
If I remember correctly Rosenbaum hinted that the pay for the part didn't even cover the travel expenses
AnungUnRama
AnungUnRama - 3/12/2024, 5:03 PM
As much as I would have loved to see Rosenbaum reprising Lex it stille pisses me of more that they skipped Dean Caine‘s Supes. Hell they even included a shot of Superboy reprising his role, but no Lois & Clark 😤
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/13/2024, 2:01 AM
Seeing two Lex interact would have been great, especially if it was gonna be a little similar to how Cryer's Luthor tried to get in the good side of the Monitor in Hour 4.

Dean Cain played also Kara's stepfather Jeremiah Danvers so him donning the cape and S shield again with Teri Hatcher, who played main villain Rhea in S2, would have made Supergirl ask Clark to pinch her so that she knew she wasn't dreaming. :P

Wouldn't have mind Helen Slater returning as Supergirl. Maybe that way they could've adapted the death of a Supergirl just like how JWS did it as Earth-90 Flash for Barry.

Tom Ellis as Lucifer was another awesome cameo in the story and a very helpful one. If not one of the best ones.



And also Marv Wolfman.



So budget was never the issue with the Arrowverse, the real challenge was always (and to no one's surprise) WB/DC themselves and their illogical embargoes about what characters (or even words) were allowed to use and which were not off the table. And even then Berlanti and co. were able to make a more believable live-action DC Multiverse that earned it's own Justice League.



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