SUPERMAN Described As "The Exact Opposite Of MAN OF STEEL" As New Details On DCU's Hal Jordan Surface

SUPERMAN Described As "The Exact Opposite Of MAN OF STEEL" As New Details On DCU's Hal Jordan Surface

Some intriguing new details about DC Studios' plans for Superman have found their way online, including intel on James Gunn's plans for the wider DCU and why he's looking to cast an older Hal Jordan...

By JoshWilding - Sep 05, 2024 10:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

There's a huge amount of intrigue surrounding James Gunn's plans for the DCU and, this week, the decision to potentially cast Avengers: Infinity War star Josh Brolin as Hal Jordan in HBO's Lanterns has raised eyebrows among fans. 

The 56-year-old actor isn't exactly who the majority expected to play the iconic Green Lantern Corps member; now, though, scooper Daniel Richtman has shared some rumoured insights into DC Studios' approach to the character. 

Apparently, "they're eyeing Josh Brolin because their vision for Hal Jordan is to have him as an older, gruff, no-nonsense mentor to a younger and reckless John Stewart. And as we know, Brolin excels at playing the grumpy type."

That sounds very much in line with what we'd expected and it's clear now that Gunn has some very specific plans for the DCU's Hal. 

Addressing what the filmmaker is going for beyond that character, Richtman says he's heard Superman is "fantastic" and calls it "a complete shift to hardcore sci-fi and fantasy, the exact opposite of Man of Steel."

He adds, "It's set in a world very different from ours and far removed from the DCEU. Heroes have been around for ages, and we'll see how it affected this world's history and has shaped the DCU."

"The DCU will feature various projects set across different timelines, not just present day. So more in line with the approach of Star Wars than Marvel."

That honestly sounds like the right direction for the DCU and it's good to hear Gunn isn't setting out to replicate the MCU (a world he's extremely familiar with after helming the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy and a Holiday Special).

The fact that "heroes have been around for ages" also makes sense of Hal and Guy Gardner being older on the screen than they are on the page. DC Studios is looking to create a history to this world rather than starting from scratch as Warner Bros. did with the DCEU.

We also have some new Superman merchandise that's currently available on the official DC Shop:

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Superman tells the story of Superman's journey to reconcile his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as Clark Kent of Smallville, Kansas. He is the embodiment of truth, justice and the American way, guided by human kindness in a world that sees kindness as old-fashioned.

David Corenswet is playing the Man of Steel, while Rachel Brosnahan has been tapped to star as Lois Lane.

The cast includes Isabela Merced as Hawkgirl, Edi Gathegi as Mister Terrific, Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, Anthony Carrigan as Metamorpho, and Gabriela de Faría as The Engineer.

Supporting characters include Sara Sampaio as Eve Teschmacher, Wendell Pierce as Perry White, Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen, Pruitt Taylor Vince as Pa Kent, Neva Howell as Ma Kent, Beck Bennett as Steve Lombard, Mikaela Hoover as Cat Grant, Christopher MacDonald as Ron Troupe, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor.

Milly Alcock is also expected to make a cameo appearance as Supergirl before taking flight in her own movie, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow.

Superman is currently set to be released in theaters on July 11, 2025.

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narrow290
narrow290 - 9/5/2024, 10:20 AM
Still not on board with them skipping Hal's prime. Not like its been "done to death" we've had one awesome animated film and one janky-ass live action
Luigi
Luigi - 9/5/2024, 10:33 AM
@narrow290 - Maybe they'll do a 90s prequel one day
The1st
The1st - 9/5/2024, 10:39 AM
@narrow290 - Yeah. Hal's the reckless one, not the other way around. Not sure why we're getting force fed this, but I'll wait and see.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/5/2024, 11:33 AM
@narrow290 - I always saw John as the hardass and Hal as the “gonna do whatever it takes and never quit even if I’ve got to bend the rules” type. He punched his commanding officer to get thrown out of the airfare rather than quit if I remember correctly. Kind of why brolin is one of the last picks from the names I’ve seen. Reminding me of fox men, give them their names and powers but completely change their personalities. This is the one thing I’m looking forward to most in dcs slate as of now. Fingers crossed they give Hal his due
ProudPatriot76
ProudPatriot76 - 9/5/2024, 10:21 AM
Still pulling for Casper Van Dien. I just think he can pull it off
Conquistador
Conquistador - 9/5/2024, 10:21 AM
"a complete shift to hardcore sci-fi and fantasy, the exact opposite of Man of Steel."


Huh?! wasn't the first 15 min alone of MoS hardcore sci fi and Fantasy?
DravenCorvis
DravenCorvis - 9/5/2024, 10:48 AM
@Conquistador - Indeedio.
RedFury
RedFury - 9/5/2024, 11:38 AM
@Conquistador - my guess is that they mean it leans heavily into the wildness of sci-fi and fantasy. Whereas Man of Steel was very sci-fi, but still existed within the realm of real life when it came to everything that wasn't Kryptonian.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 9/5/2024, 11:46 AM
@RedFury - Well context matters and there's wasn't any. I can see how MoS was a more grounded approach and that world's first introduction to Superheroes, but the guys said sci fi and fantasy, and both were on display in MoS.
RedFury
RedFury - 9/5/2024, 11:48 AM
@Conquistador - yeah these "scoopers" are unbelievably vague with their stuff. I tend to try and fill in the gaps for them in my head and this is what makes most sense to me haha.
JackBurton1
JackBurton1 - 9/5/2024, 12:46 PM
@RedFury - They do that for reason...it gives them an out given most of what they post is for views with not much solid backing behind it.
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 9/5/2024, 3:04 PM
@Conquistador - The entire pitch for MOS was "what if Superman happened in our real world". That was the point.
dracula
dracula - 9/5/2024, 10:21 AM
Hopefully this means we get a ww2 set JSA movie
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/5/2024, 10:34 AM
@dracula - THIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 9/5/2024, 3:05 PM
@dracula - Don't hold your breath.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 9/5/2024, 10:22 AM
Whatever they do they just have to make it good.

(Even then people will still complain)
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/5/2024, 10:24 AM
@Itwasme - people will always complain until they get exactly what they want (and even then some sigh).
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 9/5/2024, 11:23 AM
@Itwasme - dont worry, an exact opposite of MoS would be good by definition.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/5/2024, 10:23 AM
So they’re giving Jon Hal’s personality? And making Hal the no-nonsense type?

They don’t like these characters.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 9/5/2024, 10:29 AM
@FireandBlood - Yeah, it’s definitely beginning to feel like they dislike what Green Lantern comics are like and think they know better.
TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 9/5/2024, 12:38 PM
@FireandBlood - but...but...#inGunnWeTrust
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 9/5/2024, 1:24 PM
@TheClungerine - Let's wait and see how his Superman does first. So far only the cast looks good
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/5/2024, 1:25 PM
@TheClungerine - We’ve seen what happens when Gunn doesn’t like a character

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TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 9/5/2024, 3:43 PM
@FireandBlood - those nova corps costumes are hilariously bad 😭😅
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/5/2024, 10:23 AM
This interpretation is going to be so goofy 🤣
TheLight
TheLight - 9/5/2024, 8:20 PM
@TheNewYorker - Yeah the more and more I hear about Gunn's plans for his DCU, the more my interest drops.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/5/2024, 10:25 AM
@bkmeijer1 - nope though he hasn’t even confirmed the Kumail Booster Gold casting or the creative team for that.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/5/2024, 10:26 AM
@TheVisionary25 - oh yeah, forgot about that rumour. About time Gunn is gonna do some debunking
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/5/2024, 10:25 AM
It better be different. I wanna hear it from Gunn though. Although it does already seem to very different (and better).

Also, has Gunn talked about the Hal Jordan rumours on social media yet? Something like script not being finalized so casting hasn't begun yet.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/5/2024, 1:55 PM
@bkmeijer1 -

MOS was wipe 34 times and take a shower.

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TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 9/5/2024, 10:25 AM
An older, gruff, no-nonsense mentor? 🤮

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RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/5/2024, 11:00 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - well this could fit ONLY if they will make a movie/s about Hal and his younger times, or origins, but if not then it's a big no no for me.
Spoken
Spoken - 9/5/2024, 10:28 AM
I doubt Brolin is gonna say yes. Most likely it's going to Olyphant. But stranger shit has happened.

Don't really like Brolin though. Gives me Men in Black/Agent K vibes.
The1st
The1st - 9/5/2024, 10:41 AM
@Spoken - I think he should still join the DCU though...for Darkseid.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/5/2024, 5:10 PM
@The1st - I like that a lot, simply because they're both similar villains
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 9/6/2024, 12:59 AM
@Spoken - Would he refuse to work with the people behind Watchmen and Ozark though? Unless he isn't interested in possibly collecting his first Emmy noms. I'd actually be surprised if he turned it down.
Spoken
Spoken - 9/6/2024, 9:10 AM
@NinnesMBC - Possibly. Considering the role is a mentor type like in Dune Part Two. Too early to say if this has "Emmy Nomination" written all over it. I truly think its going to be Olyphant, but again stranger shit has happened.

But it does not surprise me he would turn it down, because it just seems like he is being type-cast. Especially for the classic "gruff mentor dealing with new partner" character. Fresh yet familiar since DC and GREEN LANTERN will be the setting used for this particular story and characters. But would it be too familiar if you cast the guy who is OBVIOUS to play that type of character? If he says yes, OK, lets see. But it just seems like he's "been there done that"
Cap1
Cap1 - 9/5/2024, 10:29 AM
A movie about Superman isn't gonna be the exact opposite of a movie about Superman though is it
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/5/2024, 10:30 AM
@Cap1 -

That would imply that the former was ever about Superman to begin with.
Cap1
Cap1 - 9/5/2024, 10:32 AM
@DrReedRichards - what ever your qualms with the movie, it is objectively about Superman
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