TITANS: Robin Said "F*** Batman" Because That Version Of The Dark Knight Is A Cold-Blooded Killer

Was Batman made a killer here so Robin can look more justified in leaving/having differences with him?

@teefurtree - its a lazy element to the character. He's just Punisher then.

Batman sticks out to me because he is a deeply tortured character who crosses so many lines but not the ONE LINE that would make him what he hates most. He is surpsingly ethical in his morals for someone who does what he does.

When you step into the kind of shit that he does day after day, but you're able to not let it consume you, that makes a conflicted but great character.

@DSAC294 - You mean like in the actual [frick]ing comic..

Ugh. I don't mean to get mad. It just piss's me off to no end when they turn Robin leaving Batman into Dick being a whiny emo piss brat. It's so chiche and and only done so he can be angst.
The original story had him grow out of Robin and leave to become his own and hero. It's the story of a boy growing up and becoming a man and establishing his place in the world.





HOW [frick]ING HARD IS THIS!

@Grodd87 - it almost worked in BvS. Almost. That was a Batman who had lost almost everything and was jaded and broken, and had had all of his beliefs and morals ruined by 20 years of needless innocent death, and then had become an existential mess due to this realisation he and the rest of humanity were having that they weren't alone in the universe and there were more powerful beings capable of decimating them, and that it was causing his personal and vigilante lives to crossover further (with his employees dying during the Metropolis Battle).

So Batman having a temporary lapse in his 'no killing' policy kinda makes sense there, especially as he never intentionally kills anyone (he just kinda disregards human life by blowing some stuff up near some criminals who get caught in the explosions) and seems then to regain his faith when Superman's sacrifice inspires him to be more heroic again.

On the other hand, it seems the version we're getting in Titans is gonna be based on "The Goddamn Batman" Frank Miller created. Not the Year One or DKR versions loosely tied to a few different continuities, the All Star one who banged Black Canary next to a bunch of burning criminals and trained Robin by beating him and leaving him in the Batcave for weeks to survive by eating rats.

@CorndogBurglar - Alright fair enough. I [frick]ed up. Josh has made a lot of grammar mistakes in the past so I was just trying to correct him but this time I was wrong. I concede.

@Mrcool210 - For the love of God, Frank Miller's Batman is not a killer! This misconception is the reason why Snyder [frick]ed up Batman. I've actually never seen a writer nail down Batman's moral code more than Frank Miller.






Synder said he drew influence from a scene in TDKR where Batman "shoots the guy right between the eyes with the machine gun. One shot." This couldn't be further from the truth.

@Mrcool210 - Even in that shitty story, Batman doesn't directly kill. He just causes a a ton of damage.

@LegendaryOutlaw - As much as I'm not even remotely a flag waver for this show(I'm cautiously optimistic and hopeful at the least), but Geoff explained all this right after the trailer and everyone just seemed to ignore it. He's not killing anyone in the trailer, he's hurting them bad --breaking their bones -- and shooting above their heads to scare them. Trailer could've done a better job of showing this though. So the brutality is just left over from Batman i guess, but he doesn't kill people. Geoff made that clear. Whether or not it's done in a way that makes sense remains to be seen.

@Ragnarocknroll - I....actually agree with you. Hmmm. I’m almost surprised with myself.

@Ragnarocknroll - I'd love a live-action Ted Kord Blue Beetle movie...

@regularmovieguy - Post as many gifs as you want my guy. To me, there's nothing I find interesting about Batman. There's a reason why his best stories almost always involve a villain that overshadows him.