MOON KNIGHT Head Writer Talks Scrapped Dane Whitman And Steve Rogers Cameos In Disney+ Series

MOON KNIGHT Head Writer Talks Scrapped Dane Whitman And Steve Rogers Cameos In Disney+ Series

Moon Knight Head Writer Jeremy Slater has opened up on some of the huge cameos Marvel Studios considered for the series, including Dane Whitman and Chris Evans as an older Steve Rogers. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Jun 25, 2022 10:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Moon Knight
Source: Discussing Film

Moon Knight proved to be surprisingly hit and miss, but regardless of how you felt about the series, something that surprised pretty much everyone is just how standalone the show was. It had little to no ties to the wider Marvel Cinematic Universe, and by the time we reached the finale, it still wasn't clear what Marc Spector/Steven Grant's role in this world will be. 

During a recent interview with Discussing Film, Moon Knight Head Writer Jeremy Slater was asked about the lack of MCU references (beyond a quick Madripoor mention in episode three). With that, he elaborated on scrapped plans for a number of big name cameos. 

"What happens if we try to get Chris Evans back as old Captain America? You know, you sit there and play that 'what if' game among your writers," he explains. "The only two that we seriously discussed? Dane Whitman from Eternals of course, because at the time Steven Grant was going to be working at the same museum. But there was never any logical reason for him to be in the show. As a Marvel fan, I would be frustrated if Dane showed up for another cameo and it didn’t progress his story or give us any teasers for the Black Knight."

"Then we also talked about including the Eternals, specifically Kingo and Makkari," Slater continued. "We were originally planning to show the original fall of Ammit and the death of Alexander the Great in a flashback sequence, and that seemed like it could naturally dovetail with an appearance from the Eternals."

The writer would go on to explain that cameos like those cost money and it didn't seem productive to sacrifice some of Moon Knight's biggest set pieces just to throw in some familiar faces. Slater also received some words of wisdom from Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige. 

"Kevin comes to us and says, 'You know what, guys? I know everyone loves the cameos. Everyone gets excited about it. But I really think your story is standing on its own two feet right now.' Then it almost feels like shoehorning in an unnecessary cameo," Slater concludes. "Suddenly War Machine happens to be visiting Cairo at that time or something like that. It feels like it would have just jerked out of the story and really taken the focus away from the character journey that we were on between Marc and Steven."

While throwing the Eternals into the mix would have been fun, it's perfectly understandable why Moon Knight ultimately went in a different direction. We'll no doubt see them and Dane again soon, though the fact their movie underperformed has left their future somewhat up in the air (Black Knight, however, is expected to factor into the upcoming Blade reboot).

All six episodes of Moon Knight are now streaming on Disney+.

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URLMae
URLMae - 6/25/2022, 10:40 AM
Never watched the finale, moon knight wasn’t for me sadly, boring, narrative with irregular pacing and the characters didn’t do much for me to pay attention, I really like Oscar as an actor but damn he has picked the worst roles for in my opinion.

Poe dameron
Moon knight
Dune (was ok but underutilized)
Apocalypse
The card counter


Dredd97
Dredd97 - 6/25/2022, 11:53 AM
@URLMae - haha what?? he was incredible in The Card Counter. Also Inside Lleweyn Davis. He's great in Dune and Ex Machina and A Most Violent Year
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 6/25/2022, 12:30 PM
@Dredd97 -

Ex Machina is a f#ckin' impeccable piece of indie cinema.
URLMae
URLMae - 6/25/2022, 1:12 PM
@DrReedRichards - yeap that’s why I didn’t mention ex-machina, ohhh what a movie 😍
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 6/25/2022, 10:41 AM
I think Kevin was wrong in this case.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 6/25/2022, 3:17 PM
@FTWSFFGazette - I think he’s right about Steve, wrong about Dane. But then again, he should’ve done more on Eternals in the first place
Rosraf
Rosraf - 6/26/2022, 6:04 AM
@FTWSFFGazette - Maybe Kevin sensed it may be best to keep some 'distance' between Moon Knight and the rest of the MCU.
CaptainDC
CaptainDC - 6/25/2022, 10:43 AM
Given how divisive Eternals was, I think it would have been a smart move to integrate the characters here somehow. The movie definitely under-delivered on what should be a huge impact for this MCU. I think a cameo sprinkled in here or there would have given the show AND movie some new life in this huge shared universe.

However, for some good news... the door still isn't closed. Let's hope they renew for a S2 and start to expand Moon Knight's presence.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/25/2022, 10:48 AM
Slater gets it. What purpose does it add other ooo _____ showed up. We literally make fun of Star Wars for just doing cameos for cameos sake why would the mcu do that
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/25/2022, 10:48 AM
I was glad it wasn't full of cameos, but in all honesty, I hated this show. It needed to be a darker story and it really didn't get dark till episode 5 when they went into Marc/Steven's backstory. I heard they pitched it as "Branden Frasier's The Mummy meets Raiders of the Lost Ark" which is really not what this needed to be.

I really have no desire to see Moon Knight pop up again.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 6/25/2022, 10:49 AM
I wonder if Dane and the Eternals will be quietly put out to pasture, never to be heard from again.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 6/25/2022, 11:47 AM
@Dotanuki - nah. Why would they be? It's marvel. They won't just ditch the characters

At the end of the day- it made around the same as Shang Chi WW
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 6/25/2022, 3:20 PM
@ThorArms - but it has none of the goodwill or positive reviews compared to Shang-Chi.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 6/25/2022, 4:06 PM
@Dotanuki - either way, marvel doesn't just make characters from their catalogue vanish, they'll be seen again
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/25/2022, 10:50 AM
I think it would be very smart to have various Eternals appear whenever Marvel shows and movies have flashbacks of various points in history. That’s who the characters are. It would even elevate the movie to a degree. Worth the expense and they don’t need to be the focus.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 6/25/2022, 12:01 PM
@TheUnworthyThor -

Yep, maybe not overdo it, but it would be a cool thing to regularly see. I'm already hoping there's some of that in Love and Thunder, but they need to keep it going in the future.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/25/2022, 10:52 AM
Steve should have been in there, it made the most sense. A scene with those two and the black super soldier could have had some interesting dialog and arguements
ThorArms
ThorArms - 6/25/2022, 11:44 AM
This show was not great
AC1
AC1 - 6/25/2022, 11:59 AM
Makes sense, was a nice change of pace to have an MCU story that felt like its own thing rather than just one part of a bigger story, we haven't really had that in a long time. And yeah, having a cameo for the sake of it would've been pretty shit so I'm glad they didn't force it.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 6/25/2022, 12:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Eternals takes place before Ms Marvel (at least the main story does) so I don't expect to see Kingo turn up in that, but it would be awesome if he did just for continuity's sake.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 6/25/2022, 12:09 PM
Old Man Cap cameo:





I believe I was the only person here who liked Moon Knight! I never read the comics, but by the comments, I think that worked in my favor!
Hoot3
Hoot3 - 6/25/2022, 10:30 PM
@VictorAlonzo - Yea I knew very little about the character going in and I enjoyed it as well
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 6/25/2022, 12:29 PM
I don't quite get the Steve cameo, but Dane would have made perfect sense as a Midnight Sons tease.
Kyos
Kyos - 6/25/2022, 12:35 PM
Would've loved to have a small Steven/Dane interaction. 🤓
grif
grif - 6/25/2022, 3:10 PM
no idea what they plan to do with black knight. i saw him and his post scene in eternals and said. k
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 6/25/2022, 9:51 PM
@grif - West Coast Avengers confirmed?
PicolasCage
PicolasCage - 6/25/2022, 3:21 PM
That lends credence to the scooper who said Moon Knight will be part of the cast in Cap 4
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