Gavin Hood Talks The Wolvie And Sabretooth Relationship In X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Because he's a douche bag.

Here's to Wolverine 2 being that much better off without him!

They was [frick]ing Brothers!!!

Good actors but the characters as brothers was just lame an stupid lol!

BAMF @ WOLVERINE 2's gonna be better, no way it could ever be worst! ; D

JMAN @ exactly!!

@ Ozy Yea but in this case you have to be FLASH

who do you think you are posting silliness like that?? do you go around spouting that nonsense in real life?? "i'm ozymandias, king of kings." for real?? jesus

@ ror

lol, thats probably exactly what happened, half assin' it is the fox specialty

Dog was not Creed. He had no powers, he had no claws.

The artist that did that issue of origins drew him kind of looking like Creed at times and for that reason, generations of readers since have wanted Dog to be sabertooth, mistaken dog for Sabertooth, opined, surmised, and supposed that it was Sabertooth. But the lack of powers part is the clincher.

I have virtually every comic book issue where Creed talks about his childhood. He claims to have murdered his parents. He has memories of sickening abuse, torture, and neglect. He was chained up in a dark basement for years, and his father used pliars to pull his long teeth and claws out.
Dog was an ubused child also but the hair color, the lack of powers.. all that negates that part at least on the comic side.

Now on the movie side I can understand what Hood is trying to do. In the scheme of the film it makes sense, but personally I think they could have handled that better.
They could have even made Dog to be Sabertooth and I wouldn't have minded. They could have made it that Dog/Sabertooth was tied up in the basement and James had a life of privilege, and so Sabes hates Wolverine because of a deep rooted jealousy over their childhood.

If they had chose to make it more like the comics it would have panned out more like this:
Sabertooth and Wolverine didn't know each other as kids but got put working together in a mutant squad of secret agents. Creed is a blood thirsty maniac along with the feral aspect of his powers. Logan has the feral thing but chooses a more noble and humane regard for life. Wolverne's self discipline and relative sanity pisses Creed off because he is endlessly on this trip about how much alike they are and how they are the same.
Then when Weapon X gets ahold of them things get worse. Creed's rage and jealousy toward Wolverine gets put into overdrive when Weapon X gives Wolverine indestructible bones and swordlike claws, but they only augment Sabertooth's strength. Then the two have their first battle, and the Weapon X people decide to use the situation so they brainwash the two of them.
They make Wolverine believe Sabertooth killed the woman he loves, and thus the decades long feud between them starts up.

I think people on this site are ripping unnecessarily into these directors. I'm including Brett Ratner in this as well.
In Hollywood, on these multi,multi-million dollar productions, the producers have as much, if not more say in the story, script, and casting. The directors have some say, but basically, the more renown the director, the more say they have. Generally, the directors mostly have control over the look and the "feel" of the movie.
I don't blame Gavin Hood for the faults of the Wolverine movie, and believe it or not, I don't blame Ratner for X3. Ratner is an ass for making the comments he made about fans, and about the series, but again, I don't think it was his fault.

The main difference between Ratner, and say Jon Favreau, is that Favreau is a fan of comics, and a fan of Iron Man, and actually cared about the movie. Ratner didn't care, and was there to pick up a paycheck. He basically filmed what he was given. If anything, people on this site should be mad at the producers at Fox.

If anyone is unsure about what I'm saying here, if you haven't seen it, watch this clip of Kevin Smith explaining his involvement in Superman Lives/Reborn. It nicely illustrates my point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk

Meh, I liked the whole brother thing in the movie, it was the rest of the so-called plot that was questionable especially THOSE bullets!

@Darthmulder
Your idea for Wolverine is awesome, it would have made sense than the actual plot and it would have been a hell of a lot more interesting!

@ Dancingmonkey: Thanks. That's really just a simplified version of how it happened in the comics. Whenever I find something uncool with a movie I always try to think of how I would have done it differently.

Also I am a writer. It's really just a little side hobby. I write treatments and screenplays for indy film makers that I know. As far as I know none of my stuff has ever been used.

the bad thing is they messed up the chronology so now wolvie doesn't remember sabertooth and the rape...but i still like the movie

CBD: you're right - the inconsistancies make it a little hard to match Dog and Sabertooth as the same person...maybe his healing factor was a secondary mutation!?! This is what I was hoping the Wolverine: Origins series would explain after House of M - instead, we still have no solid facts about Wolverines true origins!!

lol Yeah Josh that newer Origins series just makes things more confusing if anything. It kinda sucks I hear

@ mulder

its sad because it was good at first (i personally didn't like the art, but i read comics for the story)but it just kept making everything more and more convoluted. it got cancelled for a reason, ya know?

@ ironknight

dog was abused, but not anywhere near the abuse that creed took. creed was treated like an animal.

Ironknight: Your absolutely right. Dog was abused. I did say that in one of my other comments.

"....Dog was an ubused child also but the hair color, the lack of powers.. all that negates that part at least on the comic side."

Not to mention the fact that he was named DOG for Pete's sake! That's abuse in and of itself lol

Anyway what heppened to dog was horrible, but that was nothing compared the savage ordeal suffered by Sabertooth as a kid.

@ CorndogBurgler: Oh so it was cancelled? Yeah no surprise there. That was an exercise in futility and a major dissappointment from the very start.
What they should have done is another biographical series telling the story of what happened to Wolverine next. Instead every issue was him just having yet another random meeting with some other random character that he knew from way back when.

Plz update with a video we can all watch. Boycott MTV!