Out with the old and in with the new slate of DC/WB Films

Obviously batman needs to be rebooted. Bale-man could work, but he was already broken in TDKR. Bats would have to be in kis prime to hang in the JL. At least whan they first come together.

The only other one that needs their own film would be Wonder Woman. The rest of the roster could be introduced in sequels. Like, Aquaman can be introduced in WW since they are both muth based. The Flash can be in a Supes sequel. The GL origin can actially be woven into the plot for the JL movie...

OMG enough with the idiotic Marvel Vs. DC garbage!! Kevin Feige has said multiple times that he loved the Dark Knight trilogy and that he is rooting for all comic book movies to be successful!! If DC finally gets their properties on screen and successful and create their own cinematic universe, it's a good thing for Marvel b/c the genre itself is helped. Man, ridiculous these rivalries. What's good for one is good for the other.

Here's the thing with WB's that no one notices or talks about. When you give tham a second chance, they blow it out of the ballpark.

Batman Begins was a second chance, Man of Steel is a second chance.

Bottom line: they learn from their mistakes.

Michael Jordan once said:

I've failed over and over and over in my like. That's why I succeed.

The difference between Marvel Studios and WBs is that WBs has failed, Marvel Studios hasn't and one may think that's a good thing when its not. Failure improves yourself and you learn from your mistakes. Both Fox & Sony has failed and its fair to say their learning too. Marvel Studios needs to fail epicly.

Now I think one care say no one cares about Jonah Hex. If that fails well who cares? Green Lantern failed but perhaps with a second chance, WBs will improve with GL.

Wonder Woman also failed on that TV pilot.

I think the DCCU is in good hands but I think they need Bruce Timm involved with just looking over the screenplays. Not hiring the cast but making sure the scripts are all good and make sense and fit in with the universe. I also think Bruce Timm should be more involved with the new Batman series.

All in all I believe DC is in good hands and the future is bright.

You typed all that on an iPhone? Impressive

@Levi - Man of Steel at 70% is knocking it out of the ballpark??


Doesn't seem to good for future installments. But then again, I'm just jumping to conclusions.

Also I tend to stay away from RT. At the end of the day if I like it that's all that matters.

I will be honest I liked Iron Man 2, Batman Forever, & also X-Men 3. I like X-Men 3 mostly because Beast is my favorite X-Men. Who cares if someone dislikes it? As long as I enjoyed it that's all that matters.

Avi was way more in charge of Spider-Man than Feige. Also how involved was he? Did he have control? Richard Donner produced X-Men & X-Men Origins Wolverine.

We all know Feige's heavily involved in Marvel Studios but he isn't know for his films in the past probably because he wasn't heavily involved.

...and isn't X3 the highest grossing Xmen film...?

@LEVITIKUZ did you not see Captain america (1990) or the Punisher(1989) the fantastic 4 (1994)? Marvel has failed so much in film mostly every movie they put out has been garbage(hulk movies) to decent the only movies considered to be good are Spiderman 1, Ironman 1, & blade 1.

those kiddy flicks suck too quality wise but financialy they are successful

Since when does critics and fans bother fox??? Why did we get -men first class??? Because Batman Begins showed Fox that CBM's can be taken seriously by critics, fans and the general audience alike. The Iron Man, who outgrossed all the Xmen films on his first outing, showed that even unknown heroes can be successful when done respectfully. Then The Dark Knight showed them that a CBM can make billions when done well considering it grossed more than any 2 xmen films combined...

Had it not been for those movies, the original xmen franchise would still be in full effect. With first class, fox tried a batman begins approach because tdk was king then... Now that avengers are hot, now we get days of future past.

@Levi. You sir, are absolutely correct! Marvel failed to even get a PILOT on tv! Thanks for pointing that out. :)

Use Bale, Cavill, Ryan Reynolds and Joseph Gordon as Robin and u got a lot of characters. Introduce Wonder Woman and Flash. I know Batman is supposed to be older and hurt but Superman can help him somehow and we're good

@Levi: Marvel Studios has failed, it's called Iron Man 2. I personally enjoy it but, it's definitely the worst of the bunch. Iron Man 3 gets shit but people hate on it cause of the twist with, The Mandarin and it did go overboard on the humor. After that, they find every excuse in the book to hate on it. So yes, Marvel Studios has made its share of mistakes but still maintained to keep their movies fun, exciting, funny and just overall good movies. Ever heard of a perfect movie? Me either. Everyone loved Marvel Studios until Iron Man 2, after that they've been getting tons of hate. In case anyone on this site hasn't noticed, The Dark Knight is not a perfect movie by any means (I won't go farther than that cause even though I love it, I do have a couple gripes about it and will surely be hated for it). I'm also of the opinion of while Agents of SHIELD looks like it can be a great show, bringing Coulson back is a mistake. Modeling Scarlet Witch after Saoirse Ronan is a mistake.

Okay, the Ronan comment is more beef I have than it is an actual mistake. Here's what I think will happen, after Avengers 3 there will be more movies but no more crossover movies. They'll acknowledge it as a share universe and there might be an appearance by one character in a movie that has nothing to do with their movie but, it could work for that specific movie. Not much of a crossover. I don't think Marvel will loose it's magic. Shit, Marvel Studios doesn't have the rights to Spider-Man, X-Men or Fantastic Four but those franchises (if Fantastic Four can be considered one) are getting more movies and they make bank. Not all Marvel movies are blockbusters (DareDevil, Elektra, both Punisher movies, both Ghost Rider movies (although if together, they could be considered Captain America success) and Howard the Duck) but, they get cash. Go to boxofficemojo.com to see for yourself. Not all the movies are responded well but nearly every Marvel movie has gone on to do well at the box office whether it got negative or positive reviews.

DC and Marvel is a rivalry I enjoy unless people take it to heart. It's fun. We wanna see both companies succeed. Shit, despite the fact I let my bias get the better of me, I want to see both succeed. DC has potential, they just have to take risks outside of Batman and Superman, hire the best people for the project and go for it. Shit, Rocket Raccoon and Groot are getting movies before The Flash and Wonder Woman. I understand they got more movies to worry about but, it's the closest to a franchise they have going on right now last I knew now that the, Harry Potter movies are done. Not only critically but also, they've got to put out movies that the audience, mainly the general audience responds well to. That's what gets box office numbers. People have said it before on the site, we're just ten percent of the audience. Do I think Warner Bros has learned from their lessons? Kind of. They're partially relying on the Nolan name to get people to see Man of Steel. It's their saftey net like the Marvel brand name is a saftey net for Marvel. DC needs to gain the magic and get people to see their movies as much as they saw Batman. If they can create a movie audience for The Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, ect and make it work (they need to find someone other than Goyer to write Justice League) then they can find the magic Marvel has had for years now.

KAC

Get Gail, Johns (but make sure he doesn't have a large opinion), Dini, Timm, Goyer, Snyder, & Jon Nolan.

I love when Crossbones turns up and writes his own editorials in the comments section.

@ inkslinger616
You are right! I should have fleshed out my comments a little better. What I meant is that if there is full reboot - meaning no NEW origin story - with Batman then that will confuse people. If they do 'reboot' Batman - origin story and all - then they run the risk of what happened with Spiderman where many people are asking why the need to reboot and many fans not only hesitant to accept the new version but also constantly comparing them to the Raimi version. So it is a no win scenario for Warner Brothers. Thanks for the clarification.

@Levi: Iron Man 2 was a failure as a movie in general despite being well received and I even enjoy it. It doesn't have to be a bad movie in general. It just needs to be not as good as the rest and if you pick out the right things, you can learn from the mistakes.

@ inkslinger616

With all do respect...these movies are not made just for you...there is an audience that has to be considered...and what I see is that every time CBM"s try to create the "true" comic depiction of heroes, we get Green Lantern. While you may not like what Nolan did with Batman, the success is unmistakable and the broader audience has bought into it. You cannot tell me that the average movie goer does not like the Dark Knight movies. The audience ratings for that on Rotten Tomatoes are from 90%-96% approval. So what you are suggesting is that Warner Brothers should stake their chances on your "ideal" version of Batman in the hopes of audiences liking it. If it does not it will ruin the future of CBM's possibly for a decade if not longer. I appreciate that there are different versions of Batman to be told but now is not the time to be introducing them when there is at least the will to create a shared universe and you already have an established well received iteration of Batman.