EDITORIAL: Casting Superheroes and the Double Standard

EDITORIAL: Casting Superheroes and the Double Standard

When it comes to casting an actress in a superhero role there seems to be a different set of standards in place than with their male counterparts. One fan offers his thoughts. Hit the jump to discuss.

Editorial Opinion
By TwistedKingdom - Oct 19, 2016 11:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Wonder Woman

 

Well, the day has finally arrived. Superman has made his return to television with the CW’s newly acquired Supergirl. Fans were given their first look at the new Man of Steel in a promotional pic not too long ago (played now by Teen Wolf’s Tyler Hoechlin) and reactions were mixed, to say the least. Some were hung up on Hoechlin’s association with Teen Wolf, a show aimed primarily at teen girls. There were criticisms about the suit itself. I’m not a fan of how the cape’s set up.

 

But there was one big reaction I found very interesting - enough to prompt me to write this editorial. A lot of fans were more critical of Hoechlin’s size. I have a personal concern over Superman continuing to shrink over the years (Reeve 6’4”, Welling 6’3”, Routh 6’2”, Cavill 6’1”, Hoechlin 6’0”) but that’s not what fans were complaining about.

 

“He needs to get in the gym” or “He’d better start hitting those weights” they’re saying. Yes, interesting. Why? I’m glad you asked.

 

Securing a superhero role nowadays pretty much guarantees a leaner, meaner body. Hugh Jackman is a beast when he’s Wolverine. Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans get huge for their turns as Thor and Captain America. Jason Mamoa is hard at work as he prepares for his run as Aquaman.

 

In my humble opinion this whole thing is about expectations and preference.

 

Audiences have come to expect this type of commitment from actors. Film is a visual medium and what the audience sees on screen triggers certain associations in the brain. We see Jackman, Hemsworth and Cavill on screen and they look powerful. They look like gods come to life. The brain typically equates “muscles = power”.

 

Now let’s go back in time a few years. Gal Gadot is announced as Wonder Woman and the internet loses its mind. The backlash is tremendous. Concerns rise over issues like her acting ability and being able to carry a movie. After all, there are only a handful of bankable leading ladies in Hollywood and they ALL have Oscars.

 

The main concern - Gadot’s size. She was alarmingly skinny. The last woman anyone (besides Zack Snyder) would consider for an Amazon warrior goddess.

She’s gained some size since then, improving to “Not As Skinny As Before” but she’s more Supermodel than Superhero.

This criticism has drawn a few arguments from DCEU fans, two arguments in particular.

Some of you are probably thinking them now. The same ones supporters raised after the WW announcement.

 

Let’s start with “Some people aren’t happy unless they cast a bodybuilder in the role”.

Nonsense in its truest form. If anyone truly believes this is what people wanted instead of Gadot, I feel sorry for you.

 

The other argument, and certainly the most common - “Wonder Woman’s strength doesn’t come from her muscles”. Interesting, indeed. Why? Again, glad you asked.

 


This comes up when people want to defend Gadot but is rarely mentioned, if at all, in Hoechlin’s case. In fact, it’s an argument you just don’t hear when it comes to men. Thor’s or any Asgardian’s strength doesn’t come from their muscles. Neither do Superman’s, Supergirl’s and Kryptonians’. Yet Hemsworth and Cavill get massive.

 

So the question begs to be asked, is there a different set of expectations for women then there are for men? It seems as if male heroes are expected to look like gods but women get a pass.

 

And it’s not just Gadot as Wonder Woman. Fox and Marvel have contributed as well. While Jaimie Alexander isn’t wafer thin, you could say her frame is petite. She’s fine as Lady Sif action wise but when it comes to size and stature, Asgardian warrior just doesn’t spring to mind. 

And how about Elodie Yung in Netflix’s Daredevil. She’s as thin as Gadot was when she got WW. Neither Scarlett Johansson or Krysten Ritter got into “wow” shape for their roles as Black Widow and Jessica Jones.

The same for Olivia Munn for her turn as Psylocke and Jennifer Lawrence’s Mystique (who’s required to go practically nude on occasion). Both actresses look rather pedestrian when it comes to physique.

 

You’d have to go all the way back to 1991 and Terminator 2: Judgement Day to find an actress who physically transformed herself for her role.

James Cameron wrote one of the strongest female characters in film but Linda Hamilton also looked strong because of the work she put in. So where has that gone?

 

Again, preference and expectations.

 

I propose casting for these roles has a lot to do with what’s considered feminine. It’s about what a woman is “supposed” to look like and how a woman is perceived by today’s standards. Standards established by magazines like Cosmopolitan and Marie Claire.

 

I’m not saying these actresses are out of shape or don’t do the work the men do.

I know Man of Steel’s Antje Traue busted her ass for months with fight choreography and strength training for her role as Faora. But any beautiful actress can tone up, learn choreography and put on a costume, making her look like a “bad-ass”.

 

Sadly, that seems to be all that matters with some fans. As long as these actresses kick ass and look feminine or “hot” while doing it, they’re fine. Because “strong” means something different for women today. It’s less literal and has more to do with confidence, independence and bad-assery. That’s today’s mold. Here’s the thing about molds, though…sometimes they’re broken. And now would be the perfect time.

                       

 

It’s 2016. Women are just as athletically prominent as men and they have the bodies to boot. One could argue, with so many fans boasting about “realism”, a female hero who accurately represents today’s female athlete would be “realistic”. You’ve got women who absolutely own in the gym. No, not the bodybuilder types but beautifully sculpted women.

 

There are plenty of inspirational women in athletics and fitness, those who set a standard for others to aspire to, but in Tinseltown, unfortunately they’re nonexistent. Today’s superheroines cater to the females who want to look like Lawrence, Gadot and Johansson. They’re the ones following these celebrities on Instagram and Twitter. They’re your everyday, ordinary girls.

 

But what about the extraordinary women? Because the characters these actresses are playing are extraordinary themselves. I’m not talking about the women in Shape magazine I’m talking about the ones in Strong Magazine.


                

   


Imagine for a moment an actress getting cast for a superhero role and spending months molding herself. A real drive and commitment to shatter the status quo when it comes to the modern leading lady. At the end of her training she doesn’t look like a supermodel she looks like a warrior. Muscle. Definition. A work of art.

 

I don’t mean to pick on Gadot’s Wonder Woman but THAT ROLE should’ve been THE ROLE that changed the leading lady. Why? Because it’s Wonder Woman. A truly historic and monumental part. Arguably one of the most important casting choices ever. She is the modern athletic woman.

True, her strength doesn’t come from her muscles but her muscles have traditionally been a part of her mystique. They give her a presence 99% of women don’t have. They’re part of the reason she’s able to stand out in a room full of supermodels.


              


So why hasn’t this happened yet? It goes back to meeting the “feminine” requirement. Quite frankly muscles are considered masculine. There’s a preconceived notion that muscles on a woman make her look more masculine. It’s just not attractive to some people. Maybe the female bodybuilder image automatically pops into their head. All it would take, however, is one pivotal role to lay this stone aged perception to rest.

 

IN CONCLUSION

 

I give Steven Soderbergh points for casting Gina Carano in his film Haywire instead the thin “It Girl” of the moment. Putting MMA fighters in these roles isn’t the answer, though, be it Carano or Rhonda Rousey. Why not? Simple, they can’t act. Thank goodness Rousey didn’t get Captain Marvel.

 

A legit actress getting a high profile CBM role and then getting into jaw dropping shape would speak louder than people realize. It would introduce younger girls to beauty well beyond the Hollywood starlet. The kind of beauty that doesn’t need a costume to look bad-ass. And, as I stated before, it would be a real representation of the today’s female athletes.

 

I don’t know if this will ever happen. Maybe Gadot will get after 2017’s Justice League but there’s no indication of that. I’m not so sure we’ll see it with Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel. There IS one role in Marvel’s library they could cast and really make some noise if done right, though…

 

 

A guy can dream.

 

What do you guys think? Do you believe there’s a double standard when casting male and female superheroes? Would you like to see more athletic representations of female heroes? Sound off below and, as always, thanks for reading!

                                          

RUMOR: DC Studios' Wonder Woman-Less TV Series PARADISE LOST May Have Found Its Creative Team
Related:

RUMOR: DC Studios' Wonder Woman-Less TV Series PARADISE LOST May Have Found Its Creative Team

WONDER WOMAN Leaked Video Game Concept Art Reveals Some Of The Enemies Diana Will Face
Recommended For You:

WONDER WOMAN Leaked Video Game Concept Art Reveals Some Of The Enemies Diana Will Face

DISCLAIMER: ComicBookMovie.com is protected under the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) and... [MORE]

ComicBookMovie.com, and/or the user who contributed this post, may earn commissions or revenue through clicks or purchases made through any third-party links contained within the content above.

TomSolo
TomSolo - 10/20/2016, 2:09 AM
Preach, brother! I have been saying for years that certain female CBM characters need to have some mass on them. Not body-builder mass, but just enough to make them look physically imposing. Wonder Woman, Lady Sif, Valkyrie, and Captain Marvel, for example make no sense with a petite, skinny or even average look. The first three, especially (though, I don't want to overlook Ms. Danvers, who was a Major in the USAF before becoming Captain Marvel)... all born and trained from birth as warriors, and have been warriors for who knows how many years... hundreds? They should look tough and cut and have a bit of mass on them.

Other characters you named, like Black Widow, Mistique, Psylocke... one could argue that their effectiveness comes from techniques and not from raw power, so they just really need to look fit. Y'know, like Ant-Man and Daredevil and Loki. But female characters that are warriors and lifers in the military should look like they might be able to kick my ass... just like the male warriors in these movies.

I'm also glad you touched on strong female role models and positive body types for young girls. I have two young nieces and I love them to death. I always hope they don't feel pressured to look like a twig. Thankfully, my sister is a beast, so they have their mother to look to for a physically strong body image. But a lot of other young girls aren't that lucky. CBM's could really take steps in that direction, as there warrior women characters give them the opportunity to do so.

TwistedKingdom
TwistedKingdom - 10/21/2016, 10:32 AM
@TomSolo - Same here. I have a couple young nieces who play sports and take martial arts. One of them sat in on one of my classes at the gym and says she wants to come back. Maybe I started something? Haha. They and girls like them don't typically see these fit women in mainstream so why not change that? In a CBM no less.
TomSolo
TomSolo - 10/21/2016, 2:02 PM
@TwistedKingdom - Yeah... since the genre is so popular right now, there is a big opportunity to to do something here with these characters. Think about how comics, have visually portrayed the female body in the last 25 years. I challenge you to find a woman with a bust smaller than a D-cup. And, don't get me wrong, big breasts are fine, and many women have them. But many women don't as well, and I think it's important for young girls to have role models that aren't physically hyper-sexualized. .Female characters have been all boobs and hips in the comics, and it would be cool to see more realistic, physically strong female forms represented in the movies as well. Just my preference.
ThunderKat
ThunderKat - 10/23/2016, 8:04 PM
@TomSolo - Kitty Pryde?
TomSolo
TomSolo - 10/23/2016, 10:17 PM
@ThunderKat - well, she jad a normal bust, but my hope is that we see some female characters that have a more powerful physique.
aresww3
aresww3 - 10/20/2016, 8:13 AM
@aresww3 - I'm not sure how this going to come out, but wonder woman is supposed to be the ideal feminine, not masculine or muscular and her strength really doesn't come from muscles. SO? I mean if you read the comics of her from their inception, this has been true.

As for the men. Its the men that are the problem not the women. Some superhero men, like Batman and Thor or say Daredevil, it makes absolute sense they'd be really muscular. Since they are fight trainers. But Superman really shouldn't be. He's supposed to be a clumsy, mild mannered, goof that no one notices when he's in his civilian guise. One that has a tough time with the ladies. So why the hell is he built and looking like a beef cake when he's Clark Kent? Snyder has the wrong idea of what a realistic superman should be. He cast Cavill for Superman but not for Clark Kent. The guys way too handsome in his civilian guise.

Iron Man and Spider-man are cast right, as is Hulk. These are superheroes that nothing in the story suggests they should be built like tanks and they aren't. You've picked up on Snyder who just has an obsession with that aesthetic. Everyone has to be super beefed up in his movies if they are male, not so much if they are female. Its because of his aesthetic outlook on things.

Perhaps the one good thing I'd universally praise about the MCU. Cap America and Thor should be beefed up cos of the characters they are, but Bruce, Hawkeye and Stark are not because it makes no sense to their character.

Wonder Woman has never been muscular in the cannon comics. Maybe in elseworlds she has, but not in the comic. She has always been ultra feminine. BC her strength is not meant to ape that of what is traditionally male Strength. Her strength is meant to be feminine.
TwistedKingdom
TwistedKingdom - 10/21/2016, 11:36 AM
@aresww3 - @aresww3 - I don't put too much stock into how a character is drawn because it's art. Artists can't take creative liberties. Ed McGuinness' work comes to mind.

In the case of Wonder Woman, the ideal woman or "ideal feminine" has changed over time. Like Superman, what WW represents has evolved. People think of her today and think empowerment mentally, emotionally and physically. She's equal to male heroes in every sense, even superior to some of them. Same can be said for athletic women in real life and, make no mistake, Wonder Woman is an athletic woman.

Besides, realistically, if anyone spent as much time training as much as the Amazons do, day in and day out, for centuries on end, their physique would reflect that.
aresww3
aresww3 - 10/21/2016, 2:34 PM
@TwistedKingdom - I agree with that, but I'm the guy who gets pissed when they try and sexualize Amanda Waller. I think you can have a more athletic wonder woman, but I prefer her looking more like a normal sized woman. It adds to the story, when she kind of looks like a dainty woman only for her to turn around and kick your ass :)
HanSoloBerger
HanSoloBerger - 10/20/2016, 4:46 PM
Great read!
TwistedKingdom
TwistedKingdom - 10/21/2016, 10:59 AM
@octolight12 - Thanks!
JonTargaryen94
JonTargaryen94 - 10/22/2016, 5:27 PM

DANA LYNN BAILEY- most well know female bodybuilder

maybe female actresses aren't willing to use steroids and inject themselves with testosterone?

OptionFour
OptionFour - 11/24/2016, 5:22 PM
@JonTargaryen94 - If you think its necessary for a woman to be on steroids or test to get that physique, I can see that you don't lift seriously, or go anywhere that people do. Just because someone has put in years of hard work doesn't mean they're on drugs.She doesn't have crazy big lats, or traps, or forearms. She just has a low body fat percentage, is dehydrated for competition, and has put in day after day of hard work for years.
Some people don't need drugs - they just use dedication instead. Crazy.

To note, you could also look at the pictures of women supplied in the article (who look nothing like Dana Lynn Bailey), and the numerous times the author specifically states he's not talking about body builder physiques, but about athletic ones.
ThunderKat
ThunderKat - 10/24/2016, 5:07 PM
@TwistedKingdom

Hate to ask the dumb question: do you want these women to be super fit or fairly muscular?

I think the build of the WWE women would work.

However, consider this: putting on fifteen or more pounds of muscle might repel the marquee talent the producers/directors believe they need to make these films fly.

On the contrary, most men are more than willing to change their body types for more star and money potential. Who wouldn't want to go from 'Parks & Rec' Pratt to 'Guardians' Pratt! It creates opportunity.
View Recorder